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Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13M se... - 4/3/2017 8:16:53 PM   
vincentML


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Mercedes wary of O'Reilly's misbehavior and pulled their ads from the O'Reilly Show.

The New York Times published an investigation this weekend that found five women who made allegations of sexual harassment or inappropriate behavior against him. Those five women received settlements totaling about $13 million, The Times reported.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/3/2017 9:27:30 PM   
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Same people I guess that actually voted for...believing Trump and his bullshit.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/3/2017 9:42:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Or he could be blackmailed and the women are getting paid off.

Honestly, I feel like as a woman who have been "sexually harrassed", I would want that dude to go to jail instead of taking his money.

BUT, maybe US don't jail men for sexual harassment so mine as well bleed him. I don't know. In my country, they would be thrown in jail.

On top of that, our sexual harrassement, assault reporting centre is done up like a very friendly upscale relaxing spa. For women's comfort, filled with professionals to help them, and all the medical facilities to get evidence samples.

We take any abuse of women very seriously. And to make sure it's as easy and comfortable as possible for women to report it.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 2:26:57 AM   
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Or he could be blackmailed and the women are getting paid off.

Honestly, I feel like as a woman who have been "sexually harrassed", I would want that dude to go to jail instead of taking his money.

BUT, maybe US don't jail men for sexual harassment so mine as well bleed him. I don't know. In my country, they would be thrown in jail.

On top of that, our sexual harrassement, assault reporting centre is done up like a very friendly upscale relaxing spa. For women's comfort, filled with professionals to help them, and all the medical facilities to get evidence samples.

We take any abuse of women very seriously. And to make sure it's as easy and comfortable as possible for women to report it.


sexual harrassment on the workplace is not a crime in the USA:
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/is-sexual-harassment-workplace-a-crime.htm
so civil litigation and monetary compensation is the only legal way to seek reparation. By the way this are claims that are in most cases very difficoult to prove it often gets to be a "he said she said situation", where the victim has to undergo a lot of scrutiny character assasination.
About Bill O'Reilly he collected at least another sexual harrasment claim, and was accused by his daughter to have chocked her mother (his wife at the time of the incident), that it's not contrasting with his public personality he is unnecessarely aggressive, quite creepy, dismissive of women.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 2:34:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's time for sexual harassment at any place to be a crime in the US!

So that men could get jailed. IF they keep getting away by paying off women. The sexual harassment will continue!

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 4:40:11 AM   
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It's time for sexual harassment at any place to be a crime in the US!

So that men could get jailed. IF they keep getting away by paying off women. The sexual harassment will continue!


Yes it's sad that sexual selfdetermination is not seen an important issue but just professional damages are, I guess that like slander or defamation the 1st amendment raises the bar for prosecution compared to other countries, so unless there is no provable damage it's not considered an issue, while other legal systems protect the right to dignity.
Anyway there's also to consider that for how the legal system of the usa is set a victim might prefer civil litigation as victim rights are less protected in usa's criminal court while in civil litigation there is a lower standard of proof, in addition for a crime to be prosecutable intent and in this case that motivation was sexual gratification, that's hard to prove.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 5:45:07 AM   
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He won't be fired, he won't lose viewers. For the minority of viewers that actually care about women being harassed... they will tell themselves that the women just made it all up, it's a liberal plot, etc.

They accepted worse from Trump and still love the guy.
This is nothing.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 6:32:59 AM   
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Fox viewers won't care.

He won't be fired, he won't lose viewers. For the minority of viewers that actually care about women being harassed... they will tell themselves that the women just made it all up, it's a liberal plot, etc.

They accepted worse from Trump and still love the guy.
This is nothing.


as I said it's not he ever tried to hide his being a creepy misogynist, the same people that were watching him will continue.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 6:50:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

It's time for sexual harassment at any place to be a crime in the US!

So that men could get jailed. IF they keep getting away by paying off women. The sexual harassment will continue!


They should imprison women who make false allegations for money, revenge, or to slime the political opposition

Or whatever

Women make even fake rape allegations all of the time. It doesn't matter if its against someone like Bill Clinton though, while if it's Bill O'Reilly "He has to go"

Bullshit

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 6:56:23 AM   
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Fox viewers won't care.

He won't be fired, he won't lose viewers. For the minority of viewers that actually care about women being harassed... they will tell themselves that the women just made it all up, it's a liberal plot, etc.

They accepted worse from Trump and still love the guy.
This is nothing.

The viewers won't care but Rupert Murdock's bottom line will squeal a bit. Fox got rid of Ailes, they may get rid of BillO when his guest list starts withering.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/4/2017 8:21:41 PM   
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Drip . . . . Drip. . . .Drip

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 4:03:06 AM   
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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 4:04:19 AM   
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quote:

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Fox viewers won't care.

He won't be fired, he won't lose viewers. For the minority of viewers that actually care about women being harassed... they will tell themselves that the women just made it all up, it's a liberal plot, etc.

They accepted worse from Trump and still love the guy.
This is nothing.


as I said it's not he ever tried to hide his being a creepy misogynist, the same people that were watching him will continue.


right, please explain exactly how bill oreilly is a misogynist?

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 4:08:09 AM   
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They should imprison women who make false allegations for money, revenge, or to slime the political opposition

Women in my country get jailed for that. That's normal. I mean false sexual allegation ruins a person's life, so she will be punished.
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Women make even fake rape allegations all of the time. It doesn't matter if its against someone like Bill Clinton though, while if it's Bill O'Reilly "He has to go"

Fake Rape Claims by Female equals jail term in my country. Women have been jailed.

So for me, any fake reporting of crime, like even fake reporting of kidnap is a jail term.

It's against the law to report ANY fake crimes.

And against the law to sexually harass women. We call it, "outrage of female modesty", so if a man even says anything inappropriate to make a woman feel uncomfortable, like any sexual inundation, that is against the law here and a jail able offense.


Section 509 of the Singapore Penal Code
S 509 criminalizes the intention to insult and act of insulting a woman’s modesty. Found guilty of s 509, one may be sentenced to up to a year of imprisonment, or with fine, or with both.
Actus Reus of S 509 will be satisfied where the accused has uttered any word, made any sound or gesture or exhibited any object that insults the victim’s modesty.


US NEEDS this law! All these silly lawsuits settlement needs to stop!

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 5:09:14 AM   
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Fox viewers won't care.

He won't be fired, he won't lose viewers. For the minority of viewers that actually care about women being harassed... they will tell themselves that the women just made it all up, it's a liberal plot, etc.

They accepted worse from Trump and still love the guy.
This is nothing.


because of course we all know that accusations are always an indication of guilt.

and people never settle out of court for reasons other than avoiding convictions.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 5:13:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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They should imprison women who make false allegations for money, revenge, or to slime the political opposition

Women in my country get jailed for that. That's normal. I mean false sexual allegation ruins a person's life, so she will be punished.
quote:

Women make even fake rape allegations all of the time. It doesn't matter if its against someone like Bill Clinton though, while if it's Bill O'Reilly "He has to go"

Fake Rape Claims by Female equals jail term in my country. Women have been jailed.

So for me, any fake reporting of crime, like even fake reporting of kidnap is a jail term.

It's against the law to report ANY fake crimes.

And against the law to sexually harass women. We call it, "outrage of female modesty", so if a man even says anything inappropriate to make a woman feel uncomfortable, like any sexual inundation, that is against the law here and a jail able offense.


Section 509 of the Singapore Penal Code
S 509 criminalizes the intention to insult and act of insulting a woman’s modesty. Found guilty of s 509, one may be sentenced to up to a year of imprisonment, or with fine, or with both.
Actus Reus of S 509 will be satisfied where the accused has uttered any word, made any sound or gesture or exhibited any object that insults the victim’s modesty.


US NEEDS this law! All these silly lawsuits settlement needs to stop!


greta, a law like that would create havoc in the workplace as well as make things even more difficult between men and women.


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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 5:14:32 AM   
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More advertisers have pulled their ads from Trump...

Drip . . . . Drip. . . .Drip


Leftists simply cannot help themselves, their fascist streak always surfaces. Dissenting political opposition must be destroyed, their careers smashed and their lives ruined

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 5:19:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: eulero83


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Fox viewers won't care.

He won't be fired, he won't lose viewers. For the minority of viewers that actually care about women being harassed... they will tell themselves that the women just made it all up, it's a liberal plot, etc.

They accepted worse from Trump and still love the guy.
This is nothing.


as I said it's not he ever tried to hide his being a creepy misogynist, the same people that were watching him will continue.


right, please explain exactly how bill oreilly is a misogynist?



from quotes like ‘Many women’ are ‘blasted out of their minds when they have sex’ or "There Has To Be A Downside To A Woman President", I'm sure if I had time I could find more

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 5:54:44 AM   
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from quotes like ‘Many women’ are ‘blasted out of their minds when they have sex’ or "There Has To Be A Downside To A Woman President", I'm sure if I had time I could find more


Speaking the truth isn't misogynistic. There are definite downsides to having a woman president.

And I've bought women drinks, it's rather common. I've seen how they act on Spring Break, too.

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RE: Mercedes pulls ads from OReilly Show on news of $13... - 4/5/2017 6:04:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		in so much as those two utterances with no context are in no way evidence of misogyny, I hope you'll find the time.

and if/when you do, please connect the dots with something like: misogyny is X and what oreilly has said, and more importantly, done, here, is an example of X in such and such a way.


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