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Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 7:42:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

If you cant handle the heat, You lie, over and over and over.
You attacked me for not looking after my husband, (while he was in the hospital getting a chemo treatment, )
not knowing the first fucking thing about it.
Ive never attacked your relationship, or your orientation
Just your lies and ignorance.
YOU cant handle the heat, you had to take a week or so off....
mandated?
I ask because the posts are gone.



I haven't lied at all.

Liar




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 7:44:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

If you cant handle the heat, You lie, over and over and over.
You attacked me for not looking after my husband, (while he was in the hospital getting a chemo treatment, )
not knowing the first fucking thing about it.
Ive never attacked your relationship, or your orientation
Just your lies and ignorance.
YOU cant handle the heat, you had to take a week or so off....
mandated?
I ask because the posts are gone.



I haven't lied at all.

Liar

No. Now you are the one lying. And really... shouldn't you be focused on your hubby instead of on me and this site all the time. Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?




LadyPact -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 7:53:16 PM)

Nobody has a guarantee.




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 7:59:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Nobody has a guarantee.


Tell me about it.




Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:01:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

If you cant handle the heat, You lie, over and over and over.
You attacked me for not looking after my husband, (while he was in the hospital getting a chemo treatment, )
not knowing the first fucking thing about it.
Ive never attacked your relationship, or your orientation
Just your lies and ignorance.
YOU cant handle the heat, you had to take a week or so off....
mandated?
I ask because the posts are gone.



I haven't lied at all.

Liar

No. Now you are the one lying. And really... shouldn't you be focused on your hubby instead of on me and this site all the time. Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?




yawwwwwwwn you have proven and shown nothing as proof., so you ARE the only liar here.





tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:04:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

If you cant handle the heat, You lie, over and over and over.
You attacked me for not looking after my husband, (while he was in the hospital getting a chemo treatment, )
not knowing the first fucking thing about it.
Ive never attacked your relationship, or your orientation
Just your lies and ignorance.
YOU cant handle the heat, you had to take a week or so off....
mandated?
I ask because the posts are gone.



I haven't lied at all.

Liar

No. Now you are the one lying. And really... shouldn't you be focused on your hubby instead of on me and this site all the time. Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?




yawwwwwwwn you have proven and shown nothing as proof., so you ARE the only liar here.




What did i lie about?




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:17:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Tamaka, I'm going to ask a few personal questions. If you aren't comfortable answering, or simply don't want to, no hard feelings.

Are you currently in a Master slave relationship?
If yes, how long?

If no, have you been collared, in the past as a slave? In real life, not online.
If yes, how long?
If more than once, how many times and how long each time?

I ask, because you are very self aware of who you are and what you are want/need.
Naturally I'm curious to learn a bit about your growth and how you came to identify as a slave.

Again, if you choose not to answer, no worries, no offense.


Yes i am currently in a relationship. It has been one year.

I started in a Gorean M/s relationship for 2 years That was 10 years ago after i ended my 20 year vanilla marriage.

I was owned. by a BDSM severe sadist (probably the one true love of my life) for a year. That was also 24/7 and my first poly experience.

I was with a daddy dom type Master for 4 years.

I took a couple of years off to focus on myself.

Now i am in my current M/s relationship but we are not 24/7 at this time. It is also a poly relationship and He is awesome, but i am being more cautious this time because i don't have the resilience that i used to have.

It has been quite a growth process in every way. I would definitely say it is the Gorean community that really helped me understand myself, both the Men and the girls in that community. Unfortunately that group of people have disbanded over the years. I also am involved in yoga so the spiritual aspects are very important to me as well.




Thank you for sharing.

The thread has turned ugly, and whatever point I was getting at is irrelevant now.
I will say this, it seems as if the ugliness has deep roots. As someone who has respect for LadyPact and Lucy, as well as a better understanding of the origins of your strong opinions regarding the topic of this thread, I'm going to simply step away from the ugliness.









Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:20:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I didnt expect anything better from you, you are piss poor at proving your ass umptions

No!! *She* has an M/s dynamic that has lasted a whole year!!!


yanno, I dont knock orientations or BDSM identities, but Im damn well going to:)
NRE...its almost as bad as frenzy




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:23:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I didnt expect anything better from you, you are piss poor at proving your ass umptions

No!! *She* has an M/s dynamic that has lasted a whole year!!!


yanno, I dont knock orientations or BDSM identities, but Im damn well going to:)
NRE...its almost as bad as frenzy


I'm sure you have nothing more important to be doing. I was in a 20 year relationship. I didn't sacrifice that to end up with anything less than exactly what i want.




Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:27:48 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

What did i lie about?


well here is s a couple for a start....just from this afternoon.
before they get deleted!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

You don't know anything about what it takes to be a dominant either besides toys. You are a fool. It's very obvious.




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Lucy, God Himself could show you yourself in a mirror and you wouldn't believe Him. The thing you are most ignorant of is yourself.


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Keep telling yourself that, because you don't have the strength of character that allows for self-reflection.



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Like i said before, which you don't seem to grasp, the way you represent yourself here day in and day out confirms what i am saying. I understand your ignorance makes you uncapable of seeing it. There's nothing i can do to help you with that.



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LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.


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Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?

You couldnt teach a cat to shit in a box.




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:31:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

What did i lie about?


well here is s a couple for a start....just from this afternoon.
before they get deleted!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

You don't know anything about what it takes to be a dominant either besides toys. You are a fool. It's very obvious.




quote:

Lucy, God Himself could show you yourself in a mirror and you wouldn't believe Him. The thing you are most ignorant of is yourself.


quote:



Keep telling yourself that, because you don't have the strength of character that allows for self-reflection.



quote:

Like i said before, which you don't seem to grasp, the way you represent yourself here day in and day out confirms what i am saying. I understand your ignorance makes you uncapable of seeing it. There's nothing i can do to help you with that.



quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.


quote:

Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?

You couldnt teach a cat to shit in a box.



Those aren't lies. I am sorry but i can tell a colorblind person that his sock is blue. He can tell me it isn't. Doesn't make me a liar.




Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:31:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I didnt expect anything better from you, you are piss poor at proving your ass umptions

No!! *She* has an M/s dynamic that has lasted a whole year!!!


yanno, I dont knock orientations or BDSM identities, but Im damn well going to:)
NRE...its almost as bad as frenzy


I'm sure you have nothing more important to be doing.


its 11.30 on a saturday night, im doing what I want....
the love of my life is tucked up in his bed, and snoring.
I will be making a dinner for my son about 2am when he comes in from work,
where are your loved ones?




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:34:30 PM)

Right here with me. Watching tv.




Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 8:50:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

What did i lie about?


well here is s a couple for a start....just from this afternoon.
before they get deleted!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

You don't know anything about what it takes to be a dominant either besides toys. You are a fool. It's very obvious.




quote:

Lucy, God Himself could show you yourself in a mirror and you wouldn't believe Him. The thing you are most ignorant of is yourself.


quote:



Keep telling yourself that, because you don't have the strength of character that allows for self-reflection.



quote:

Like i said before, which you don't seem to grasp, the way you represent yourself here day in and day out confirms what i am saying. I understand your ignorance makes you uncapable of seeing it. There's nothing i can do to help you with that.


quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.



quote:

Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?

You couldnt teach a cat to shit in a box.


quote:



Those aren't lies. I am sorry but i can tell a colorblind person that his sock is blue. He can tell me it isn't. Doesn't make me a liar.


Then I suggest you try an ethics course.


When you make accusations without proof, like you have been doing all afternoon, and you havent come up with a single post to suggest Im lying, yes that makes you a liar. A bullshitter, a provable lying POS

quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.


That isnt just a lie, its complete bullshit, its a demonstrable lie, from a lying liar, lying her nasty ass off.




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 10:17:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

What did i lie about?


well here is s a couple for a start....just from this afternoon.
before they get deleted!!!

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

You don't know anything about what it takes to be a dominant either besides toys. You are a fool. It's very obvious.




quote:

Lucy, God Himself could show you yourself in a mirror and you wouldn't believe Him. The thing you are most ignorant of is yourself.


quote:



Keep telling yourself that, because you don't have the strength of character that allows for self-reflection.



quote:

Like i said before, which you don't seem to grasp, the way you represent yourself here day in and day out confirms what i am saying. I understand your ignorance makes you uncapable of seeing it. There's nothing i can do to help you with that.


quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.



quote:

Geeze, do i have to teach you everything?

You couldnt teach a cat to shit in a box.


quote:



Those aren't lies. I am sorry but i can tell a colorblind person that his sock is blue. He can tell me it isn't. Doesn't make me a liar.


Then I suggest you try an ethics course.


When you make accusations without proof, like you have been doing all afternoon, and you havent come up with a single post to suggest Im lying, yes that makes you a liar. A bullshitter, a provable lying POS

quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.


That isnt just a lie, its complete bullshit, its a demonstrable lie, from a lying liar, lying her nasty ass off.



Nope. That's what she said. Sorry if you can't read what i wrote or that you're adding your own assumptions into it. I didn't say that they lived or died due to her play. I'm not a liar. You're a moron.




tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 10:28:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

Tamaka, I'm going to ask a few personal questions. If you aren't comfortable answering, or simply don't want to, no hard feelings.

Are you currently in a Master slave relationship?
If yes, how long?

If no, have you been collared, in the past as a slave? In real life, not online.
If yes, how long?
If more than once, how many times and how long each time?

I ask, because you are very self aware of who you are and what you are want/need.
Naturally I'm curious to learn a bit about your growth and how you came to identify as a slave.

Again, if you choose not to answer, no worries, no offense.


Yes i am currently in a relationship. It has been one year.

I started in a Gorean M/s relationship for 2 years That was 10 years ago after i ended my 20 year vanilla marriage.

I was owned. by a BDSM severe sadist (probably the one true love of my life) for a year. That was also 24/7 and my first poly experience.

I was with a daddy dom type Master for 4 years.

I took a couple of years off to focus on myself.

Now i am in my current M/s relationship but we are not 24/7 at this time. It is also a poly relationship and He is awesome, but i am being more cautious this time because i don't have the resilience that i used to have.

It has been quite a growth process in every way. I would definitely say it is the Gorean community that really helped me understand myself, both the Men and the girls in that community. Unfortunately that group of people have disbanded over the years. I also am involved in yoga so the spiritual aspects are very important to me as well.




Thank you for sharing.

The thread has turned ugly, and whatever point I was getting at is irrelevant now.
I will say this, it seems as if the ugliness has deep roots. As someone who has respect for LadyPact and Lucy, as well as a better understanding of the origins of your strong opinions regarding the topic of this thread, I'm going to simply step away from the ugliness.




Yes it pretty much turned ugly with Lucy's first post.




Lucylastic -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 10:52:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.



Nope. That's what she said. Sorry if you can't read what i wrote or that you're adding your own assumptions into it. I didn't say that they lived or died due to her play. I'm not a liar. You're a moron.



That's not what LP said at all.
What LP said was
quote:

I can promise you that I've had former s-types that, whether they lived or died, it wouldn't matter to me. Much in the same way that I've had one night stands that have no significance on my life. They were something I did. Nothing more.


post 52. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5029597





tamaka -> RE: LGBTK? (5/6/2017 11:00:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

LP said she has no care whether the person she 'plays with' lives or dies. I have nothing in common with someone like that.



Nope. That's what she said. Sorry if you can't read what i wrote or that you're adding your own assumptions into it. I didn't say that they lived or died due to her play. I'm not a liar. You're a moron.



That's not what LP said at all.
What LP said was
quote:

I can promise you that I've had former s-types that, whether they lived or died, it wouldn't matter to me. Much in the same way that I've had one night stands that have no significance on my life. They were something I did. Nothing more.


post 52. http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5029597




Let me help you because you are dense.

What does 'Having Former s-types' mean? Well it means you play with them. Especially in LP's world because she admits over and over again that she is only into kink for play.

So she has had former s-types, meaning she has played with some s-types previously (former), whom she doesn't care whether they lived or died.

How lovely a thought is that. Now stop being LP's loyal little bitch and let her, being the dominant woman that she is, handle her own problems.








LadyPact -> RE: LGBTK? (5/7/2017 1:02:43 AM)

Can do.

Sex, play, or even a dynamic isn't necessarily an emotional bond. I don't have a problem standing up for myself in saying that even M/s isn't what people attempt to make it out to be. Best analogy? Particularly in leather, or even Gorean aspects, it's more like employer/employee... With certain fringe benefits. [:D] In neither of these lifestyles is the requirement involved to *love* the slave.

I used to hire and fire people for a living. When I hired certain people for the job, they signed up. Do the job to expectations? They got paid. At the same time..

Every.

Single.

Employee...

KNEW...

Their employment was only as good as for as long as the company (and they) were satisfied. It's called "employment at will." CHOICE. I fire you or you choose to quit? It's over. I *had responsibilities as a boss. Met OSHA requirements and all of that sh^t. When they were MY employee, I had a responsibly. After that? I don't.

Not my fault I fired them. I wasn't friend or family. It's not "remains of the day."

Some of my dynamics, on the other hand, were emotionally based. Shoot, I still talk with 'j', pet, and the former tk, because they MATTER.

I'm not going to sit here and bullshit you that everybody that I ever swung a flogger at did. Not everybody I ever had sex with did.

So, really? Are you so hypocritical as to say EVERYBODY in your former sex life matters JUST as much as those you had emotional attachment with?

Must have been some golden dick.




stef -> RE: LGBTK? (5/7/2017 1:51:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I'm sure you have nothing more important to be doing.


its 11.30 on a saturday night, im doing what I want....
the love of my life is tucked up in his bed, and snoring.
I will be making a dinner for my son about 2am when he comes in from work,
where are your loved ones?


With the frequency and volume of their posts, tasocka might want to worry more about their time than yours. Some "slave" they must be.




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