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tamaka -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 2:53:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins


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Difference is, we all know you are a sock, and it's an actual internet thing, you're just looking like an idiot by calling me a tampon. Again, it's not even original, sockish, but not original.

Needles


You all know i am a sock? Really? Shows that what you "know" is wrong. Now continue that thought with everything else you think you know.



We've all been here long enough to spot stinking socks like you from a mile off. Why do you think so many of us refer to you as 'Sock', or tasocka? If it types like a sock, throws abuse like a sock, flounces like a sock, threatens to block people like a sock, is a raging hypocrite like a sock, sticks its nose in where it's not wanted, won't shut up when asked, trolls threads, then it's a sock. You do all of those things. You can't help yourself.

You also show your shear lack of intelligence constantly. Now, you can try slating my knowledge all you like, but all you are doing is showing your own shear ignorance, and again, your shear lack of originality in your line of attack with me. You are so predictable it's boring. It's as repetitive as Respectmen's drivel.

Yawn, bore off.

Needles


If you don't like what i have to say, block me. You folks just don't like anyone who doesn't agree with your fucked up thinking.



WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 3:03:18 PM)

Sorry Needles, apparently I was wrong.



needlesandpins -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 3:14:26 PM)

WinsomeDefiance, I'm not sure to what you are referring. With your original post to me I didn't respond as I could understand your reasoning with your approach to it all. I have reread what you've written a couple of times, and I couldn't make my mind up whether to respond, or not. That leads me to think that your words would need far more consideration. It's getting late for me now, and I've had a tough weekend with very little rest, hence this evening not being the time to give your post the due attention it deserves.

Feel free to PM me should you wish.

Needles



tamaka -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 3:23:28 PM)


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WinsomeDefiance, I'm not sure to what you are referring. With your original post to me I didn't respond as I could understand your reasoning with your approach to it all. I have reread what you've written a couple of times, and I couldn't make my mind up whether to respond, or not. That leads me to think that your words would need far more consideration. It's getting late for me now, and I've had a tough weekend with very little rest, hence this evening not being the time to give your post the due attention it deserves.

Feel free to PM me should you wish.

Needles


She's kissing your arse because she realizes that not everyone thinks that the way Needles handled Alison resembles the way that someone with all kinds of training would handle it.



needlesandpins -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 3:34:22 PM)


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WinsomeDefiance, I'm not sure to what you are referring. With your original post to me I didn't respond as I could understand your reasoning with your approach to it all. I have reread what you've written a couple of times, and I couldn't make my mind up whether to respond, or not. That leads me to think that your words would need far more consideration. It's getting late for me now, and I've had a tough weekend with very little rest, hence this evening not being the time to give your post the due attention it deserves.

Feel free to PM me should you wish.

Needles


She's kissing your arse because she realizes that not everyone thinks that the way Needles handled Alison resembles the way that someone with all kinds of training would handle it.



Fair enough. Again, you show your shear ignorance, you stupid, blind, person. You see, my training allows me to see people for what they really are. My own personal experience is what makes me call people out on their passive aggressive behaviour of trying to use other people the way Alison has done with this thread for their own personal gain. My training does not mean that I have to act like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory and sugar coat everything for someone behaving like this. The fact that you are too thick to get that is outstanding.

Now, until you up your level of intelligence to be able to compete with me, kindly fuck off. You bore the living daylights out of me.

Needles



tamaka -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 3:46:59 PM)

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WinsomeDefiance, I'm not sure to what you are referring. With your original post to me I didn't respond as I could understand your reasoning with your approach to it all. I have reread what you've written a couple of times, and I couldn't make my mind up whether to respond, or not. That leads me to think that your words would need far more consideration. It's getting late for me now, and I've had a tough weekend with very little rest, hence this evening not being the time to give your post the due attention it deserves.

Feel free to PM me should you wish.

Needles


She's kissing your arse because she realizes that not everyone thinks that the way Needles handled Alison resembles the way that someone with all kinds of training would handle it.



Fair enough. Again, you show your shear ignorance, you stupid, blind, person. You see, my training allows me to see people for what they really are. My own personal experience is what makes me call people out on their passive aggressive behaviour of trying to use other people the way Alison has done with this thread for their own personal gain. My training does not mean that I have to act like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory and sugar coat everything for someone behaving like this. The fact that you are too thick to get that is outstanding.

Now, until you up your level of intelligence to be able to compete with me, kindly fuck off. You bore the living daylights out of me.

Needles


Omg... you really are a piece of work. I'm sure that if you were handling this as part of your job, you would be fired. (At best)

You are nothing but a big-mouthed stupid fuck.






ThundersCry2U -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 6:19:24 PM)

Who wears a speedo....



WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 6:25:44 PM)

I was referring to my first sentence: "Needles, I think most people share your opinion so I doubt anyone thinks badly of you for calling it as you see it. "

Immediately after, Tamaka proved me wrong with her statements made toward you.

I'm terrible at ass kissing, so no wonder I botched it.



Greta75 -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 11:55:47 PM)


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OK - completely off topic - but I had a vivid image of Prince Charles after he'd been recorded talking to Camilla and stating he wanted to be her tampon....[:D]

Wow did he say that? His mom must be mortified!



Greta75 -> RE: Suicide (5/16/2017 11:58:09 PM)

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However if the cries for help go on and on, then the little boy who cries "wolf" comes to mind.

Unfortunately, that's how it works though. Suicidal people cry for help. Something helps them decide to fight on. Then another stumble, and they cry for help again. Until maybe everybody got sick of it. The day they get no more attention, they might choose to leave. That's why they need professional help. Most problems like this, regular people have no patience. But in OPs case, even professionals let him down.

The fact is, when a person already made the decision to die, we wouldn't hear from them anymore. The ones we hear from, may reconsider it all they want. I expect them to.



Greta75 -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 12:04:27 AM)


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I've seen too much suicide, I'm trained to see the signs of those suffering real depression, and I have lots more training besides. People want to talk genuinely about their issues, groovy, crack on, I'm all ears, and I'll even offer all the tea and sympathy you like. However, my training allows me to spot a passive aggressive drama queen from a mile away too. You also want to be that person, groovy Tuesdays, but don't try dragging me into that crap. Don't try using me as your beating stick to make yourself feel worse, to lay the blame on, because I've had that manipulative shit in my life before.

I don't know what you do for a living. And why you took training to identify suicidal candidates. But if it's in the realm of counselling or therapist for mentally ill patients, which OP clearly is one.

I just gotta say, your lack of patience and harsh judgement for them might not be the right fit for that type of job.



needlesandpins -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 4:30:24 AM)


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WinsomeDefiance, I'm not sure to what you are referring. With your original post to me I didn't respond as I could understand your reasoning with your approach to it all. I have reread what you've written a couple of times, and I couldn't make my mind up whether to respond, or not. That leads me to think that your words would need far more consideration. It's getting late for me now, and I've had a tough weekend with very little rest, hence this evening not being the time to give your post the due attention it deserves.

Feel free to PM me should you wish.

Needles


She's kissing your arse because she realizes that not everyone thinks that the way Needles handled Alison resembles the way that someone with all kinds of training would handle it.



Fair enough. Again, you show your shear ignorance, you stupid, blind, person. You see, my training allows me to see people for what they really are. My own personal experience is what makes me call people out on their passive aggressive behaviour of trying to use other people the way Alison has done with this thread for their own personal gain. My training does not mean that I have to act like Willy Wonka's chocolate factory and sugar coat everything for someone behaving like this. The fact that you are too thick to get that is outstanding.

Now, until you up your level of intelligence to be able to compete with me, kindly fuck off. You bore the living daylights out of me.

Needles


Omg... you really are a piece of work. I'm sure that if you were handling this as part of your job, you would be fired. (At best)

You are nothing but a big-mouthed stupid fuck.







Actually you complete fuckwit, my training is part of social care that allows me to work with vulnerable adults and children. Which in one manner or another I have done for many years. Like I said, it allows me to identify the genuine, and the not. What I do as part of my line of work, or even how I conduct myself within my line of work, compared to dealing with some passive aggressive attention seeker in here are two different things.

Just as I clearly spot you for what you are, and as many of us that have been here clearly spot Alison for the person she is. I won't put up with a stranger on the internet trying to involve people in their suicide drama so that they can get a kick out of it, or so that they can try to make people feel responsible, or guilty.

You've also chosen very clearly to ignore my OWN experience on how close I'VE been to suicide in your forever blinkered ignorance, because as always it suits your line of attack better to do so.

You seriously need to pull your head out of your backside, that way you may finally be able to view the bigger picture on things instead of your forever narrow, and bigoted chosen little view. You're pathetic.

Again, fuck off with your judgement of me you ignorant little hypocrite.

Needles



needlesandpins -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 4:41:14 AM)


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I've seen too much suicide, I'm trained to see the signs of those suffering real depression, and I have lots more training besides. People want to talk genuinely about their issues, groovy, crack on, I'm all ears, and I'll even offer all the tea and sympathy you like. However, my training allows me to spot a passive aggressive drama queen from a mile away too. You also want to be that person, groovy Tuesdays, but don't try dragging me into that crap. Don't try using me as your beating stick to make yourself feel worse, to lay the blame on, because I've had that manipulative shit in my life before.

I don't know what you do for a living. And why you took training to identify suicidal candidates. But if it's in the realm of counselling or therapist for mentally ill patients, which OP clearly is one.

I just gotta say, your lack of patience and harsh judgement for them might not be the right fit for that type of job.



My line of work was not counselling, but have been told by a counselor that I really should consider going in to the profession. Again, the way one handles a passive aggressive attention seeker trying to get their kicks from strangers on the internet is entirely different to how one handles them self in their line of work. My training allows me to spot the the genuine needing help, and those being damned awful.

If Alison really wants to end her life, she can do so, but it's a really crap thing to do to try and manipulate the people in this forum. I'm not going to sugar coat that.

You think I'm bad, you should hear how the people on our rail system talk about the people that use their trains to commit suicide. You want to do it, fine, but don't involve other people, it's going to be a bitch of a deal for your family or friends as it is. You have no right at all to involve other people in your drama.

You want to come here and genuinely reach out, that's cool to, but that is not what Alison did now is it. She then tried to put a guilt trip on me. Tough luck butter cup, it's not going to work, I've been far too close myself to be manipulated like that.

Like I said, you don't have to like it, I don't care, but actually it's their behaviour you should dislike more.

Needles



Greta75 -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 10:15:30 AM)


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You think I'm bad, you should hear how the people on our rail system talk about the people that use their trains to commit suicide.


First off, I don't think you are bad, because, to me, I don't think I have the patience to counsel suicide victims too and I will never want to be involve with it. If it's up to me, I'd simply point them to the solution on how to die painlessly, incase they decide to go ahead with it.

But just that because you said you were trained, so I was wondering like, OMG, if you actually counsel suicide victims! Because honestly, the ones that bother to go counselling may be also exactly like OP.

I see everything OP does just a cry for attention. To me, most suicide people outside of terminal illness are crying for attention. That's the illness, they feel like nobody gives a shit about them. And if they can't get the type of attention they want. They may decide, depending on how upset they are, to tip over.




needlesandpins -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 10:58:04 AM)

Greta, I'm going to PM you.

Needles



DesFIP -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 12:23:23 PM)

If a person jumps in front of a NYC subway, the driver of the train is treated as though he did so deliberately. He's suspended from work, goes through weeks of what's closer to interrogation than debriefing. And although he's left traumatized, they aren't offered any worthwhile counseling. But he'll suffer from guilt feelings and PTSD as a result.

Trains weigh a lot and like 18 wheelers, they easily require a quarter or half mile to fully stop.



Greta75 -> RE: Suicide (5/17/2017 7:18:42 PM)


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If a person jumps in front of a NYC subway

Actually if a subway is underground. Then the problem is the design. Like our underground subway, there is absolutely no way anybody could possibly jump into the platform. It's glassed up from floor to ceiling all the way, no access to platform. Then when train arrives, doors open to enter train.

I think NYC subway needs to improve their safety, so that, they don't gotta deal with people choosing the subway to commit suicide.



DesFIP -> RE: Suicide (5/18/2017 4:43:10 PM)

Ours are probably a hundred years older than yours. One line having been put into service before Brooklyn joined the city. Upgrading them is damn near impossible unless they were shut down entirely for a couple of years. Which is not going to happen while over ten million people depend on them.



Edwird -> RE: Suicide (5/20/2017 10:19:33 AM)


~FR~

All this "Tough Talk!" and "Tough Love" crap is so hilarious.

Entertaining.



WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Suicide (5/20/2017 11:55:45 AM)

The OP has her phone number posted in her journals. I've called the number a few times over the last few days, it goes strait to voicemail, which is full. Tried to take the name on the voicemail, the birthdate provided in the journals and the date she posts of her wife's death and burial, but I can't seem to find any information online.

I hope the father in law doesn't come home next week and find the OP dead. How awful would that be?



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