Greta75
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ORIGINAL: Milesnmiles
And if the woman wants sex without a condom, of course that is the man being careless as well.
If a man wants sex without condoms. I simply tell him no Sex is happening. So if a woman wants sex without condoms, then it's the man's responsibility to tell her No Sex Is Happening. Walk away! No excuse to get her pregnant! Then blame it on her!
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No he doesn’t, as I have pointed out a woman can use a discarded condom to get herself pregnant and then she doesn’t even have to do that, there are men who are paying child support for children that have been proven to not be their children.
Why would there be women using discarded condoms to get pregnant? Sheesh! I thought sperms don't last like 3 seconds outside of regular atmosphere! Also, there are sperm banks they can go get sperms from! Or plenty of men online volunteering to father a child.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
If he is responsible for it but as I have pointed out, why is he still punished for it if it is not even his child?
If the child is not his, how would he be responsible for the child? I don't understand. No man should be responsible for the baby that is not from his sperm.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Sorry YOU feel this way but there are some women who don’t. For them, they consider their children a blessing and their children are anything but a punishment.
Then same should be said for men then. IF every child born of their sperm is a blessing, and not a punishment.
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To me what you describe is not a man but a sociopath. What punishment does he suffer, other than substantial financial burdens that if he doesn’t pay can result in jail time? How about the fact that at least some men actually love their children and lengthy separation can mean extreme emotional pain?
We are talking about men here who feel punished because they didn't want the kid right? Why are we bothering with men who actually want children? If they want children, it's a happy ending. Then no punishment for them.
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Or perhaps the day the woman steps in front of her man and says it’s okay I’ll let them gang rape me so you don’t have to get killed protecting me.
You know, I actually believed some women have subjected themselves to gang rape and prostitution to save their husband's life from Triads. In Asia there is. Not an uncommon story at all.
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Where do you find these “men”? I think you need to stop picking them up in bars.
It is in my experience in the casual sex world. Men who likes having casual sex specifically, are mostly recklessly only thinking about having sleeveless raw sex. All these years, almost like, 1 out of 3 FwB has ultimatum me to end our FwB relationship, because i refuse to allow him fuck me sleeveless. And I always just tell him to walk. No condoms. No sex! Period! I really have no sympathy for any of these men getting a woman pregnant, because I have felt how they use all pressure tactics on me to get me to agree to sleeveless sex. But I can never be peer pressured into anything as I am stubborn as a mule. But I can imagine many softer women who could be. Many of these guys just stop thinking their big brain.
And these are probably where all the unwanted pregnancies occur, in the casual sex world.
Even my BFF, who yes I am also having sex with, but also seriously my genuine best friend in the world, as he is always there for me for anything. Keeps telling me withdrawal method is fine, and I keep telling him, HELLO!!! PRE-CUM!!! And he'll say Pre-cum barely has sperms. And I'd say, YES THEY DO!
And I'd keep asking him, "What if I get pregnant? Do you want me to get pregnant? If i ever get Pregnant, I want to be 100% clear that it's 100% your fault! And you are gonna be responsible for the baby! Fully responsible! And if you agree to this! Sure, let's do withdrawal method!"
And that always makes him go back to condoms. But because I am a woman who is super anal about condoms. I experienced alot of pressure from men about shedding the condom. Even my x-husband who used to complain to me that why are we still using condoms when I am already on birth control? And I said to him, because I'm the one who is gonna get pregnant! And you'd want me to abort it then I'm the one who gotta go through the abortion too! And you will just blame me, that you thought I said I'm on birth control. Precisely like OP nonsense. So absolutely no negotiation about the condoms.
And if I care enough about preventing pregnancy to deprive myself of ever feeling a sleeveless cock. Men who care about preventing pregnancy can jolly well do the same. No excuse. If a man buys his own condoms, take care of his own condoms at all times, making sure it stays on properly, and don't use expired condoms. He ain't getting any woman pregnant. If a woman insist he takes it off. He needs to walk away from this woman.
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