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BamaD -> RE: BLM NOT SO MUCH (5/22/2017 3:01:44 PM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: tamaka
vincent... the way you present everything about the 'plight' of blacks and the idea that you feel white people need to be their champion seems mord belittling to blacks to me than anything. Black people are quite capable of championing their own cause and dealing with their issues. They don't need your type of 'help'.
tamaka. . . I never said white people should champion blacks. My point is that people of color have historically been exploited by white people. That exploitation continues today not only in the USA but in other parts of the industrialized world as well. I don't know how much history you read but anyone with a modicum of historical savvy is aware of the bitter truth. If you have any curiosity at all about the issue of historical exploitation and brutalization of blacks let me suggest you read a little. There was for example a genocide of between 4 and 8 million black natives in the Congo between 1890 and 1910.
Between 1891 and 1906, the companies were allowed to do whatever they wished with almost no judicial interference, the result being that forced labour and violent coercion were used to collect the rubber cheaply and maximise profit. A native paramilitary army, the Force Publique, was also created to enforce the labour policies. Individual workers who refused to participate in rubber collection could be killed and entire villages razed. Individual white administrators were also free to indulge their own sadism.
Despite these atrocities, the main cause of the population decline was disease. A number of pandemics, notably African sleeping sickness, smallpox, swine influenza and amoebic dysentery, ravaged indigenous populations. In 1901 alone it was estimated that half-a-million Congolese had died from sleeping sickness. Disease, famine and violence combined to reduce the birth-rate while excess deaths rose.
The severing of workers' hands achieved particular international notoriety. These were sometimes cut off by rogue Force Publique soldiers who were made to account for every shot they fired by bringing back the hands of their victims. These details were recorded by Christian missionaries working in the Congo and caused public outrage when they were made known to the public in the United Kingdom, Belgium, the United States and elsewhere.
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Disease is most deadly among populations of people who are over-worked and under-fed.
Why do I care about the outrages of history and the dismissal of current outrages by people on this forum? Simply, a man or woman should not live their lives without some passion greater than the mundane events they encounter everyday. I am grateful for this forum that induces me to exercise my passion for humanity, despite the occasional pit of personal attacks we succumb to. Yeah, I read books about a lot of topics, especially in history and science, but having these conversations is so much better than just reading about things, and frankly I am too old to travel in the world anymore like I used to.
I know that black people do not need my help. I would not be so bold to assume I am a savior or that I have any importance, and I know there are limitations on this forum as a venue for airing important issues. It is not about my helping anyone; it is about my desire to live a life engaged in humanitarian issues. I hope you feel the same.
And besides every bad thing that has ever happened to black people was done by white people. The civil rights act was passed by black people I guess. Afirmative action was passed by black people. The Civil War war a armed revolt by blacks to end slavery.
There were no white people in the civil rights movement. You know those aren't true but your act like whites have never done a thing to help blacks. Did you know that virtually every black sold into slavery was supplied by another black, so get off your high horse.
I graduated from a predominatly black college and the teachers really liked me so maybe I am not the racist you try to make me out to be. Don't make everything about race and maybe you can get along better. I have never said cops are perfect, and have pointed out examples when they aren't but if I don't agree that race is the reason you claim i don't care about people. You defend yourself against bias, even when you can offer no evidence of it, the dead man is black therefore it must be racism.
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