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Awareness -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 4:18:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Weak men advocate for social equality

So now you come out in favor of social equality.

Interesting.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
LeBron James
Michael Jordan
Mike Tyson
Shaquille O'Neal
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
Cristiano Ronaldo
Derek Jeter
Chris Bosh
Magic Johnson

...these are just a few of the famous athletes who actively support a progressive agenda.

I don't think anyone realistic is going to call them "weak."


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance
I would have been interested in data that supports the topic headline.

Questions that spring to mind:

Was educational levels included in the study?
Did they perform the same studies on thinner, less muscular men?
How many men were studied,
were the studies taken from men from different socioeconomic and cultural upbringings/lifestyles?

The study might have had less causal ambiguity, had a wider range of correlations been applied equitably.



I'm not sure if this was overlooked or not, but my post was intended as humor in response to the OP.

Weak-minded people like annoyness and bama and regressmen, et al. search the net far and wide to find people they hope are even weaker than they are in order to artificially prop themselves up thereby, or oftentimes, conversely, try to adduce evidence that they aren't really weak, it's just that lefties are mean bullies.

The former stance is what I was directly addressing to the OP.
One of the most amusing things about this thread has been watching all the weak men show up to try and defend their egos.

Consequently, your participation is exactly in line with expectations. Poor boy.




Awareness -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 4:19:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird
The laughingly failed point of the OP (which you appear to be on board with) was that 'strong' people don't support social equality, only 'weak' people do.

Just too funny.

And extremely weak, in fact.

*chuckle* Still defending your wounded ego, little boy?




Awareness -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 4:20:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

The SECOND Eve ate the apple....women owned the game (and have ever since....any argument to the contrary is....fallacious).
No. That's the paradigm of a weak man who doesn't understand women or himself.




Awareness -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 4:22:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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I always thought I was a progressive. Apparently I can't be, because a scientist has said so. Oh dear.
Oh no lad. You fit right in.




Awareness -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 4:31:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

What method or criteria did did Winter obtain to establish how the words and phrases were "coded"? And where was it explained in his patently biased diatribe?
Nicholas Winter is a political scientist (again, a real one, not a wannabe). His methodology is something you could explore in his paper: http://faculty.virginia.edu/nwinter/papers/Winter.apsa2009.pdf if you were so inclined, although I expect the language is beyond you.

Examining his output suggests a left-leaning orientation, so your little tantrum about his work being a "patently biased diatribe" is simply a wounded ego, expressed through the lens of your emotional immaturity. Amusing, but you sound like a boy clutching at his mother's apron, yelling at a lion that's not afraid.

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"Strong men more likely to vote Conservative"

In political terms they tend to take the more right wing view - be it Conservative in the UK or Republican in the US.


So, men without brains prefer brawn.
Ah, your sense of inferiority is really a problem for you, isn't it.


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what I wrote last time:

the only partially tongue in cheek short of it is, republican men are men and democratic men are women.


Yes, thanks for reminding us again that you are sexually attracted to Democratic men.
Ah, the Leftist hypocrisy in action - attempting to use lesbianism as a slur.

No wonder I rarely participate here any more. You idiots are no challenge whatsoever. Boring!




Awareness -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 4:34:51 AM)

No vincent, it doesn't suggest anything of the sort, this is more wishful thinking on your part. Humanity exists because of the ruthlessness of our ancestors and true altruism is an incredibly rare social event in the human species.

I'm amused at your desperate need to cobble together a bunch of tosh as a defense mechanism. Your ego is more fragile than I thought.




vincentML -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 8:51:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

No vincent, it doesn't suggest anything of the sort, this is more wishful thinking on your part. Humanity exists because of the ruthlessness of our ancestors and true altruism is an incredibly rare social event in the human species.

I'm amused at your desperate need to cobble together a bunch of tosh as a defense mechanism. Your ego is more fragile than I thought.

I am more than amused to watch your game of non-replies to those of us who have commented on your topic. In each case, instead of addressing the points made with specific counter point you reply with some unsupported generalization. To say that true altruism is an incredibly rare social event in the human species without support is a useless remark. If you have nothing to back up your comment, it does not qualify as anything more than opinion, which in your case has little credibility.

On the occurrence of altruism, A'ness:

1. You allude to the alleged ruthlessness of our ancestors as the single factor of the survival of the species. You offer no support for your statement. We are exposed to a great deal of ruthlessness that has occurred following the agricultural settlements when kings and priests could raise armies of mercenaries and serfs. It is all written in our histories, which makes it salient but proves nothing except that ruthlessness has been prevalent in later civic organizations. That does not give you permission, without needed support, to project backwards into the first roving bands and tribes of humankind,

Rather, ruthlessness is a progeny of territory, not of human nature. Ruthlessness accounts for the survival of the landed society, not of the species. The news of the barbarity of nations overwhelms and hides the news of altruistic activities; that does not mean the latter do not occur in abundance. The flaw in your logic is that your opinion projects backwards to a time from which there is little news. So, you can only presume. But your presumption ignores the fact that survival of the species resulted from adaptations to very different environmental conditions.

2. Incidentally, I have read other studies which support the observation that in the apes in nature the female does not necessarily choose the strongest male to father her children but she chooses the one who is most likely to stay nearby and offer support to her and her progeny.

3. survival of the species depends upon the expansion and variation of the population. If anything, ruthlessness is antithetical to the concept of species survival, especially rampant ruthlessness intra-species.

I do hope I have encouraged some pursuit of scholarship on your part, A'ness. Your inability to formulate thoughtful replies suggests you need much more study.

Have a good day, sport.





Nnanji -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 6:28:00 PM)


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You were the one who raised the race issue, sweetie.

Because he is a weak man trying to assert his "superiority" over "inferior" as being fact.
As this thread so far has shown, the men making the most of the topic are the worst offenders about whining

Oh princess. You see here? This is nothing but spite. You have nothing to contribute...anywhere...but spite.

The real issue is that whore boy can't admit he was an idiot about who passed the civil rights act. 98% of blacks voted Obama, a progressive. Whore boy made the list. That I point out the obvious on the list means nothing other than noticing his list. He's now just trying to make it seem I'm racist in order to obfuscate his idiocy and lack of knowledge.

And then, you ignance just had to jump in because you can't help piling on when your buds are spouting hate and ignance. Poor wittle girl.

proving my point nicely:)
bless your heart

Well, good Lucy. My dog's point was also proven that he'd be happier with more car rides.

Now, why didn't you show up and prove your point when the Ideal Gas Law was being discussed the other day, or any other topic that requires thinking other than sick snark?


Its not a subject Im familiar with, simple.
Unlike you, I stay out of threads where I have no knowledge beyond simple layman's terms. Im not afraid to admit it.
And to be honest, that topic ended with pathetic chest thumping.
so yeah, again. proving my point, perfectly.



Since you were speaking on this subject...go ahead, respond to the above. Show us your brightness.




Lucylastic -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 6:49:00 PM)

I already have done, cant you read?
by the way, you are the one hijacking.




Aylee -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/24/2017 8:52:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-05-muscular-men-social-economic-equality.html

I am not surprised. Not in the slightest.


I found it curious that everything was phrased as if there was something "wrong" with the more muscular guys. Perhaps the less muscular guys are wanting to level the natural playing field for their own purposes.

I know how many times that I have wished for extra height or such to make things easier. Why would not a male with a less formidable physic want to make that less important?
Deep down, the wimps know that life is a competition. Having never grown up, they expect society to take care of them, with society replacing their mother. Jung spoke of slaying the dragon that is the mother complex, and these boys who have never grown up simply haven't slain that dragon. Fundamentally, they haven't accepted responsibility for their own lives.



Something else to consider about this. . .

They only talked about forced equality. They never talked about what the more muscular men choose to do on an individual level.

These muscular men are the ones that used their bodies as shields to protect their significant others during things like the Aurora shooting. The being short thing - these guys are the ones that will offer to help when they see me struggling to reach or carry something. They tend to make sure that children eat first or even take part in charitable activities geared toward helping children, and give encouragement in different endeavors. The list can go on.

The point being is that the "stronger" are not necessarily against helping those "weaker" than they are. I think they just want to make a distinction between those "deserving" of their time, attention, and resources and those that are "underserving."

It is the same with children. Sometimes you need to tell them to apply themselves to the problem and solve it on their own. Other times, you should step in and give them a hand in solving the problem. Why ever would I treat an adult like an infant and solve every problem for them?




Nnanji -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 11:42:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

I already have done, cant you read?
by the way, you are the one hijacking.



Lol, after what you and the mental patient's other socks do, you are silly to complain pwincess.

Awareness made counter points. You've bragged youre smart in these matters. I supposed you'd comment. But, as usual, it seems you can't.




Nnanji -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 11:45:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Awareness


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Awareness

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2017-05-muscular-men-social-economic-equality.html

I am not surprised. Not in the slightest.


I found it curious that everything was phrased as if there was something "wrong" with the more muscular guys. Perhaps the less muscular guys are wanting to level the natural playing field for their own purposes.

I know how many times that I have wished for extra height or such to make things easier. Why would not a male with a less formidable physic want to make that less important?
Deep down, the wimps know that life is a competition. Having never grown up, they expect society to take care of them, with society replacing their mother. Jung spoke of slaying the dragon that is the mother complex, and these boys who have never grown up simply haven't slain that dragon. Fundamentally, they haven't accepted responsibility for their own lives.



Something else to consider about this. . .

They only talked about forced equality. They never talked about what the more muscular men choose to do on an individual level.

These muscular men are the ones that used their bodies as shields to protect their significant others during things like the Aurora shooting. The being short thing - these guys are the ones that will offer to help when they see me struggling to reach or carry something. They tend to make sure that children eat first or even take part in charitable activities geared toward helping children, and give encouragement in different endeavors. The list can go on.

The point being is that the "stronger" are not necessarily against helping those "weaker" than they are. I think they just want to make a distinction between those "deserving" of their time, attention, and resources and those that are "underserving."

It is the same with children. Sometimes you need to tell them to apply themselves to the problem and solve it on their own. Other times, you should step in and give them a hand in solving the problem. Why ever would I treat an adult like an infant and solve every problem for them?

Your point is very valid. But, it also makes the point that sociologists, whether they are blind to political correctness or just blind, can't measure the true value of people.




mnottertail -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 11:46:08 AM)

Oh, I dont know Nancy, old star has you pretty vice gripped by the nuts and you aint got the brains of a fucking ice cube. But other than that you felchgobble and sacklessly shit your pants for the amusement of all you maroon and bafoon.

You are a weak sad sick pathetic nothing. this thread is about you.




UllrsIshtar -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 12:10:06 PM)

How dare you interpenetrate a research study which clearly shows strong men are personified evil to instead imply that there's a benefit for those who are unequal to the task of securing their own resources to mooch off others, and an equal benefit for those who can secure them on their own merit to protect them.

It's indecently un-egalitarian of you, and once a comity has been formed to debate on the merit of proposing a referendum to see if the issue shall be put to the vote, we will no longer stand for it! [8|]





WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 2:40:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

I would have been interested in data that supports the topic headline.

Questions that spring to mind:

Was educational levels included in the study?
Did they perform the same studies on thinner, less muscular men?
How many men were studied,
were the studies taken from men from different socioeconomic and cultural upbringings/lifestyles?

The study might have had less causal ambiguity, had a wider range of correlations been applied equitably.


What I find interesting is how they used a sample size of 171 men and then extrapolated the results from that group to apply to the other (approximately) 3.8 billion males on the planet.

Bit of a stretch, I think.


This is what I was referring to in how the thread topic was worded.

The manner in which the study was made, was interesting, but the premise of the OP isn't supported by the study. <200 muscular men, isn't even a representation of the majority of muscular men, let alone enough of a cross-section to make any correlation to how less muscular men feel about an egalitarian society.

The topic also implies less muscular men are weak. An implication I disagree with.







vincentML -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 2:52:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246


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ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

I would have been interested in data that supports the topic headline.

Questions that spring to mind:

Was educational levels included in the study?
Did they perform the same studies on thinner, less muscular men?
How many men were studied,
were the studies taken from men from different socioeconomic and cultural upbringings/lifestyles?

The study might have had less causal ambiguity, had a wider range of correlations been applied equitably.


What I find interesting is how they used a sample size of 171 men and then extrapolated the results from that group to apply to the other (approximately) 3.8 billion males on the planet.

Bit of a stretch, I think.


This is what I was referring to in how the thread topic was worded.

The manner in which the study was made, was interesting, but the premise of the OP isn't supported by the study. <200 muscular men, isn't even a representation of the majority of muscular men, let alone enough of a cross-section to make any correlation to how less muscular men feel about an egalitarian society.

The topic also implies less muscular men are weak. An implication I disagree with.


Especially, Winsome, in a nation where guns of every variety are easily available. I will match my Glock 19 and pitbull Sam against your puffy muscles and steroids any day. (not yours, Winsome) I understand the study's intent is about matching attitude with musculature . . . but the frailty of the human body renders the correlation to be an illusion, however true it may be. So, the truth of it is irrelevant.




bounty44 -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 4:08:19 PM)

winsome---the majority of research is done at universities and almost all studies suffer from some sort of limitation along those line in regards to generalizing from the sample to the population.

one of the strengths of this particular study is the student sample, if I remember rightly, actually went up to age 40 and was drawn from the university population as a whole, as opposed to just mandatory participation from a psych 101 class.

there is nothing uniquely inherently bad in this particular study such that it can really be criticized on those grounds to the point of dismissing it (im not suggesting you are doing that).

there is nothing wrong with the sample size really either---its predicated on the assumption, and its generally a good one, that people are people no matter where you find them. the assumption of a "normal distribution" underlies most statistical analyses.

the terms "strong" and "weak" in the study are only used in reference to muscularity. I didn't read the study thinking that "less muscular men are weak", I read it as "less muscular men are weaker than more muscular men."




Nnanji -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 4:17:33 PM)


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Oh, I dont know Nancy, old star has you pretty vice gripped by the nuts and you aint got the brains of a fucking ice cube. But other than that you felchgobble and sacklessly shit your pants for the amusement of all you maroon and bafoon.

You are a weak sad sick pathetic nothing. this thread is about you.

Oh look, daddy mental patient came to the wescue of wittle pwincess.




Lucylastic -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 4:22:25 PM)

oh look troll is trying to be relevant, while proving that muscles and manliness doesnt improve grey matter




mnottertail -> RE: Weak men advocate for social equality (5/25/2017 4:50:19 PM)


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Oh, I dont know Nancy, old star has you pretty vice gripped by the nuts and you aint got the brains of a fucking ice cube. But other than that you felchgobble and sacklessly shit your pants for the amusement of all you maroon and bafoon.

You are a weak sad sick pathetic nothing. this thread is about you.

Oh look, daddy mental patient came to the wescue of wittle pwincess.

No I didnt Nancy, i pointed out that as an artless fuck, you are pretty much one of those weak men, now if you would read what I said, if you COULD read what I said, Nancy, you would see that there aint no Lucy there, there.

Get a fucking sack and someones brain, Nancyboy.




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