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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 7:33:58 PM   
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what do you expect with zionists at the helm?

Never used to be this bad.

Look what they did to the germans

hell when I was a child they didnt make children close up their koolaid stands under threat of arrest liek they do now

I am not sure if this is a zionist problem. More to do with, police fearing for their own lives and protecting their own lives first, as they are dealing with civilians who carry guns and could possibly hurt them with their guns.

It's just a situation where, police feel the need to protect their own lives from potential civilians using their guns against them.

So it creates this hostility. Man it feels like the wild wild west out there. No wonder everyone is clinging on their guns, because it's like, they feel they need protection against the police, and the police feel unsafe because everybody they are dealing with have guns.



they make the laws that allow the police to do the shit they do.

if you piss in someones cheerios long enough they are at some point going to get a little pissed and fight back.

we do need protection from the police, many of them are rambo fucking nuts because they can get away with it.

Oh and now the nutcases are coming back from the me and joining the police force.

You dont really think we get to vote on the laws we have to live under do you? That is a laughable facade people use when they are getting fucked and there is no way out.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 7:38:23 PM   
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hey the drivers door was initially open and that dizzy fuck cop examined the interior of the vehicle before she went looking for him. If there was a gun within reach of the 'closed' window she whould have seen it dont you think?
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I don't remember the "drivers door" being open and the officer did not check the vehicle for guns, she just made a quick perusal for occupants, so no I don't think she would have seen a gun within reach of the window, especially if it was in the door pocket right under the window.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 7:57:27 PM   
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Yes, police in the US do tend to be more hostile than other countries, like Canada for instance but I've had many encounters with the police in the US that have not been hostile and been instead very friendly and helpful.

My brother lost his mobile phone in Australia, somewhere 2 hours drive away from the city Melbourne. And a police officer actually drove that 2 hours to the city to deliver the phone to him. And then had to drive another 2 hours back.

It's like so nice too over there!

When I first got to Montgomery I saw a cop who had someone by the side of the road.
When I got close he was helping the woman get her car started.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 8:01:59 PM   
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Yes, police in the US do tend to be more hostile than other countries, like Canada for instance but I've had many encounters with the police in the US that have not been hostile and been instead very friendly and helpful.

My brother lost his mobile phone in Australia, somewhere 2 hours drive away from the city Melbourne. And a police officer actually drove that 2 hours to the city to deliver the phone to him. And then had to drive another 2 hours back.

It's like so nice too over there!


Evidently they want to keep it that way. They keep the refugees in camps on offshore islands.

I have never had a problem with a cop.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 8:05:19 PM   
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I have never had a problem with a cop.

Well, I can't say that but I can say that on a percentage basis most of my police encounters have lacked hostility.
;-)

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 8:07:23 PM   
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hey the drivers door was initially open and that dizzy fuck cop examined the interior of the vehicle before she went looking for him. If there was a gun within reach of the 'closed' window she whould have seen it dont you think?
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I don't remember the "drivers door" being open and the officer did not check the vehicle for guns, she just made a quick perusal for occupants, so no I don't think she would have seen a gun within reach of the window, especially if it was in the door pocket right under the window.


I don't remember seeing any such thing either.
It wouldn't make sense for the lone cop (that would have been before backup arrived) to turn her back on the person she is trying to arrest.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 8:09:01 PM   
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I have never had a problem with a cop.

Well, I can't say that but I can say that on a percentage basis most of my police encounters have lacked hostility.
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That is what I meant by a problem.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 8:32:18 PM   
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hey the drivers door was initially open and that dizzy fuck cop examined the interior of the vehicle before she went looking for him. If there was a gun within reach of the 'closed' window she whould have seen it dont you think?
...

I don't remember the "drivers door" being open and the officer did not check the vehicle for guns, she just made a quick perusal for occupants, so no I don't think she would have seen a gun within reach of the window, especially if it was in the door pocket right under the window.




find her interview with 60 minutes, she said she found the driver door open when she approached the vehicle before meeting crutcher.

the stories are all slanted to justify the courts decision.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 8:37:13 PM   
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hey the drivers door was initially open and that dizzy fuck cop examined the interior of the vehicle before she went looking for him. If there was a gun within reach of the 'closed' window she whould have seen it dont you think?
...

I don't remember the "drivers door" being open and the officer did not check the vehicle for guns, she just made a quick perusal for occupants, so no I don't think she would have seen a gun within reach of the window, especially if it was in the door pocket right under the window.




find her interview with 60 minutes, she said she found the driver door open when she approached the vehicle before meeting crutcher.

the stories are all slanted to justify the courts decision.

She still had to focus on him.


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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 9:31:21 PM   
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I thought I give the forum chance to talk about something other than Trump.

I was just looking something up on the internet and again noticed the comment that a “higher” percentage of “blacks” are killed or jailed than their percentage in the population in general.

And once again I thought since when does that matter?

I mean are police really supposed to think; I arrested a “black man” for a crime now I have to arrest 16 “white men” for crimes before I can arrest another “black man”?

What if “white men” aren’t living up to their percentages for crime?

Are the police to let “black criminals” “slide” until “white men” bring up their crime percentages?

If a policeman is being attacked and fears for his life is he really supposed to stop and think; oh, wait have 16 “white men” been shot since the last “black man” because if not I’ll just have to let this “black man” beat me unconscious?


To answer your question;

Yes, the general rule is that at least 4 million property crime convictions have to be on record the year occurring, before one investment banker or hedge fund manager or equity fund partner or court-appointed trustee shyster lawyer even sees a court hearing for his/her transgressions, more often than not that likely being all there is to it, for costing numerous people half their retirement fund and/or half the estate and/or stealing their house by fraud and/or causing economic upheaval costing 50,000 or more jobs, by himself.

A bit of a crimp got put in that formula when the financial crisis came along, costing ~ 4 million jobs (absolute lowest estimate) and ~ $3 trillion (absolute lowest estimate) and there were, lo and behold, actually five or eight bankers who did jail time out of all that. And the poor-fuck burglars couldn't keep up, to hold the formula intact.

Burglaries of so many foreclosed houses didn't do much for anybody. But it really really screwed up the ratio numbers in any case, because not enough convictions out of that.

So then;

"What am I supposed to do? Arrest another 600,000 burglars before I arrest the next banker?"

I can see your plight, here.


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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 9:42:06 PM   
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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 9:53:43 PM   
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I mean are police really supposed to think; I arrested a “black man” for a crime now I have to arrest 16 “white men” for crimes before I can arrest another “black man”?


Loan broker: "you got this house, if you want it."

Prospective buyer accosted by broker, not actually seeking to buy:

"I haven't worked in 2 years, what am I supposed to do? Say I make $120,000 a year?

Loan broker: <chuckles> "Just sign at the bottom. The commission I want says you actually make $190k a year. I'll fill out the rest of the form." "Merrill Lynch and Lehman Bros. are beating me on the head to send this in, let's go."

It's a new world, bro.


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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 9:57:02 PM   
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Trump wants to help the inner cities doesn't he?


Does he?

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:04:19 PM   
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Trump wants to help the inner cities doesn't he?

And that will cut these things more than anything.
They will have to break the gangs to help the inner cities.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:16:24 PM   
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Trump wants to help the inner cities doesn't he?

And that will cut these things more than anything.
They will have to break the gangs to help the inner cities.


Yes and he's already going after the gangs.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:18:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah, so Trump is going to do away with privatization of the prison system, then? Both correlation and causation and mechanism of the phenomenal increase in gangs and gang violence being attributable to and in lock-step with the privatization of prisons?

Let's see it.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:22:02 PM   
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Trump wants to help the inner cities doesn't he?

And that will cut these things more than anything.
They will have to break the gangs to help the inner cities.


Yes and he's already going after the gangs.


Yes, and they are the bigest problem.
Businesses won't go where gangs rule.


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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:29:10 PM   
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Trump wants to help the inner cities doesn't he?

And that will cut these things more than anything.
They will have to break the gangs to help the inner cities.


Yes and he's already going after the gangs.


Yes, and they are the bigest problem.
Businesses won't go where gangs rule.



You would have thought Obama would have cared about these issues. But i think it is great that Trump is dealing with it.

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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:29:28 PM   
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Businesses won't go where gangs rule.



Why would a tough guy like you (stifles guffaw, with effort) want to be a customer of a business that is too afraid of the neighborhood to do business there?

That's been your whole asinine spiel all this time, hasn't it?



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RE: A higher percentage of Black killed and jailed? - 5/27/2017 10:39:55 PM   
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You would have thought Obama would have cared about these issues. But i think it is great that Trump is dealing with it.


Please fill the rest of us in on how Trump is 'dealing' with the gang situation.

We need a video of Trump walking up to a gang leader and saying "You're fired!" with his retinue of protectors, then when he's down the street, the gang leader laughing his ass off.



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