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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 5/30/2017 3:29:13 AM   
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Christian hell is false, there is no hell. We are all going to heaven. Infact, I practically know a Christian who is part of a church who's whole belief is that, there is no such as hell in Christianity and everyone is going to heaven because God is so loving he wouldn't put anybody in hell. And hell is just allegory.


that is not what the bible, nor the mainstream Christian churches historically and currently teach.

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 5/31/2017 7:52:39 PM   
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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 5/31/2017 7:55:34 PM   
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Christian hell is false, there is no hell. We are all going to heaven. Infact, I practically know a Christian who is part of a church who's whole belief is that, there is no such as hell in Christianity and everyone is going to heaven because God is so loving he wouldn't put anybody in hell. And hell is just allegory.


that is not what the bible, nor the mainstream Christian churches historically and currently teach.



YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 5/31/2017 9:07:34 PM   
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Thats Trumps ethics documents. You will note they are worthless.

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 5/31/2017 10:09:55 PM   
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Again, I am not saying there isn't a problem. There is a real problem with some Muslims who tend to think violence is the only way. And we need eradicate those extremists and extremist ideas. But if you keep pointing fingers instead of realizing the bigger issues at play and work together, there is a better chance of solving these issues than if we keep pointing fingers.


There's also a real problem with Muslims who think that violence isn't the only way, as the tactic of non-violent European Muslims currently is: we're going to come here in number, integrate enough to start changing the laws in our favor, breed enough to have make up and increasingly larger portion of the population, and then, when we've grown enough in numbers, we'll take over Europe.

Muslims, violent or not, are in favor or the eradication of all non-Muslim value systems.
Muslims, violent or not, are in actively working towards taking over other countries, by any means necessary and available.
Muslims, violent or not, actively look down on other cultures.
Muslims, violent or not, have no qualms about lying to, and then betraying, kafirs, making a Muslims' word have no value when dealing with non-Muslims.

I could go on here...

The issue is directly that it's well-established that it's the goal of almost all Muslims to take over the world, infiltrate other countries, and eradicate value systems contrary to their own.
Thus, whether they're an active terrorist, and support or denounce the use of violence to achieve those aims is really besides the point and irrelevant. Even non-terrorist Muslims who support non-violent means of infiltrating and taking over other countries are a direct enemy of the West.

Not all terrorists are Muslims. But Muslims, terrorist or not, almost all are a direct and open threat to Western values.


My argument is that religion is practiced based on the interpretation. I do admit there are extremist Muslims who have aspirations of their religion being the supreme wherever they go. But I think things are changing with the vast majority of modern Muslims who simply want to live their lives normally. The same way you have Chtistians who take passages literally and apply it and may be against seperation of Church and State you also have Muslims doing that as well. I know Muslims who are non violent but extremely conservative and I also know Muslims who are very liberal. In the end, it's a matter of interpretation. I like the sufi interpretation of Islam which mainly deals with spirituality.



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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 6/1/2017 3:31:20 AM   
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Christian hell is false, there is no hell. We are all going to heaven. Infact, I practically know a Christian who is part of a church who's whole belief is that, there is no such as hell in Christianity and everyone is going to heaven because God is so loving he wouldn't put anybody in hell. And hell is just allegory.


that is not what the bible, nor the mainstream Christian churches historically and currently teach.



YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED.



nothing really goes on in the Christian faith independent of choice.

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 6/1/2017 5:02:54 AM   
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In the end, it's a matter of interpretation.



Of the violent passages of your book that tell you to kill or enslave me, or treat me as if I am subhuman.

Some Muslims believe in them, and act. Others believe but hesitate to act, for various reasons. Some would rather not be violent. But we have all seen what happens when a fired up leader comes along, who really believes

Hundreds of millions slaughtered so far, and counting

Why should we let them in

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 6/1/2017 6:18:48 AM   
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the cowardly puke Il Douchovitch cant say the magic words of the nutsuckers, Fundamental extremist Islamic Terrorism.

Its a pity that you spent your entire life felchgobbling putinjizz out of il douchovitches ass to be so let down by his and your sackless compound gimping.

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 6/1/2017 6:39:38 AM   
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Ramadan in Paris isn't real Christmassy

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RE: The criticism of Trump Ramadan Message - 6/1/2017 7:17:51 AM   
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and still you sackless pukes cannot say rightwing fundamentalist extremist islamic terrorism.

shame on you cowards.

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