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Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate con... - 5/29/2017 1:30:29 AM

respectmen

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If they aren't willing to put in the effort of approach with a classy and above average email, why should men do it for them? In my opinion, these types of women don't deserve to be emailed at all. If they do get an email, I hope it's one that offends them. I would happily email one of them with a picture of my crap in the toilet.

It all comes down to why should people do anything for you when you're not willing to do the same for them? Any woman who shows that she has this mentality must be blacklisted immediately.

This mentality is seriously narcissistic and showing self importance. It's a indicator that other parts of the process in courting or a relationship, her self important behaviour will also affect. It will be a lopsided deal.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 10:06:43 AM

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You are a bottom. A self serving bottom. Who blames women for his inadequacy.

So you get like, zilch mail. The women in places like this get a page of mail every day-sometimes more.

From men,and other women. Because unlike you-someone desires them.

All they have to do is put up the profile and wait.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 10:19:21 AM

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Same question to you.

Why should women initiate to contact you IF you don't like initiating contact with them.

So you refuse to initiate contact, they refuse to initiate contact. It's fair. Both of you are doing the same things.

It's fair and balance!

Now the men who bothers to initiate contacts probably have women who initiate contact with them too. Fair too.

You get what you give.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 10:28:01 AM

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I had a blast when I was looking for a dom. I basically messaged everyone who met my minimum requirements, and talked to everyone who answered. We also met really quickly since I wanted a realtime relationship.

My thought on why women don't initiate contact - when I was a sweet young thing, and not quite so sweet, not quite so young thing, I wouldn't have been able to do this - because after all, ladies aren't forward, they are shy and retiring and don't put themselves forward. It took me a while to get past this conditioning, and the whole shyness thing. When I was looking I was well aware that I wasn't sweet or young, so needed to get a wriggle on. I didn't have decades to wait for someone to contact me, so I just got on with it.

I don't get why someone is getting butt hurt over people not contacting them. Do it yourself - or you really will be doing it yourself. Accepting realities is part of being sane.....

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 10:37:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: respectmen

If they aren't willing to put in the effort of approach with a classy and above average email, why should men do it for them? In my opinion, these types of women don't deserve to be emailed at all. If they do get an email, I hope it's one that offends them. I would happily email one of them with a picture of my crap in the toilet.

It all comes down to why should people do anything for you when you're not willing to do the same for them? Any woman who shows that she has this mentality must be blacklisted immediately.

This mentality is seriously narcissistic and showing self importance. It's a indicator that other parts of the process in courting or a relationship, her self important behaviour will also affect. It will be a lopsided deal.

Those who are desired the most (male or female) get the most mail and do not have to send messages, or even have time to as they are reading all the messages in their inbox.

If you are approaching a dominant woman it is meant to be a lopsided deal you imbecile!

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 10:44:12 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

You are a bottom. A self serving bottom. Who blames women for his inadequacy.

So you get like, zilch mail. The women in places like this get a page of mail every day-sometimes more.

From men,and other women. Because unlike you-someone desires them.

All they have to do is put up the profile and wait.

This is spot on. All I'd add is that the assumption that being contacted here is always a good thing isn't valid. I personally found it so unpleasant after a short while that I hid my profile, so no one sees me on the other side. If I read a profile that interests me, I message that person.

If respectmen's profile is anything even remotely like his forum posts, no one will message him or respond to him. Who would be interested in someone so profoundly obnoxious?

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 11:06:54 AM

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I actually do get mail from women here. But only because my fetishes are so odd that they make me a Unicorn for even admitting them.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 11:33:57 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: respectmen

If they aren't willing to put in the effort of approach with a classy and above average email, why should men do it for them? In my opinion, these types of women don't deserve to be emailed at all. If they do get an email, I hope it's one that offends them. I would happily email one of them with a picture of my crap in the toilet.

It all comes down to why should people do anything for you when you're not willing to do the same for them? Any woman who shows that she has this mentality must be blacklisted immediately.

This mentality is seriously narcissistic and showing self importance. It's a indicator that other parts of the process in courting or a relationship, her self important behaviour will also affect. It will be a lopsided deal.

RM- You are putting all women into the same group, and it is not right to do so. You only see what you want to see and you only experience what you attract. I for one keep my profile on hidden almost all of the time and i go looking for what i want. I've met and became involved with 3 different men over the years and i am the one who approached them. I am sure there are some women who are the way you describe them. If the men give them attention, then those men deserve what they get. You might want to give that some thought.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 1:35:36 PM

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There is one big error in all of your theories...

If I were looking for female subs and slaves I wouldn't message them either.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/29/2017 8:34:00 PM

respectmen

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I will reply to all one by one when I get on my laptop.

Something to think about, if women don't want equality when it suits them, as for thinking its the man's job only to initiate contact, why should they be taken seriously and considered when these same women suffer an inequality that affects women in other parts of life?

For example, if these same women are a victim of the glass ceiling in the workplace, can we laugh at them and say too bad as they don't want equality in other areas?

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 12:28:08 AM

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I agree with this, actually.
If a woman sees something that she wants, she shouldn't be afraid to go after it.

But this is sort of what the dreaded feminists want, isn't it?

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 12:49:11 AM

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My female slave initiated contact with me. Many have over the years. I think your perception of the "mentality" is skewed.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 1:13:49 AM

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NoirMetal

quote:

You are a bottom. A self serving bottom. Who blames women for his inadequacy.

So you get like, zilch mail. The women in places like this get a page of mail every day-sometimes more.

From men,and other women. Because unlike you-someone desires them.

All they have to do is put up the profile and wait.

1. What makes me self serving? If your answer is going to be that I seek my desires to be met, therefore that's self serving, I'm going to laugh. Anyway, feel free to make quotes and all that indicate I'm self serving.

2. Who blames women for his inadequacy? lol. If I find it hard to get what I want, I would be blaming myself if I was the only male facing that problem or if it was just a few males including me. The reality is that MOST males find it difficult to get what they want. So I can't see how I can blame myself for it. Are women at fault for why they find it hard to get what they want? That said, if I was a female seeking a male and I pretty much offered everything that I offer now as me except different gender, I doubt I would have any problem at all getting attention from the opposite gender. That's another reason why I shouldn't blame myself. Laughs. Even an morbidly obese woman who is unemployed would get more attention and appreciation than the average male. That's also a reason I feel blameless.

Greta75

quote:

Same question to you.

Why should women initiate to contact you IF you don't like initiating contact with them.

So you refuse to initiate contact, they refuse to initiate contact. It's fair. Both of you are doing the same things.

It's fair and balance!

Now the men who bothers to initiate contacts probably have women who initiate contact with them too. Fair too.

You get what you give.

I never said that I would never initiate contact. So you're creating a stance I never made here and claiming I own it. What I did say however that I would never initiate contact with a woman who I knew that believed it's only the job for a man to do.

kiwisub22

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I don't get why someone is getting butt hurt over people not contacting them. Do it yourself - or you really will be doing it yourself. Accepting realities is part of being sane.....

So a man is supposed to have no problem at with women being hypocrites and wanting to pick and choose when they want and don't want equality? What next? A woman gets to slap men in the face and men aren't entitled to complain?

What if a man openly said that he refuses to initiate contact and thinks it's the woman's job to do so? He would get ridiculed and laughed at. All the women who know that this is how that man thinks, how many would be approaching him to date? I would say ZERO. Because many of today's women are shameless fucking hypocrites. Gotta larf.

Spiritedsub2

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If respectmen's profile is anything even remotely like his forum posts, no one will message him or respond to him. Who would be interested in someone so profoundly obnoxious?

Because when a man criticises women, it's deemed that he's undeserving of a woman. But women get to bitch and moan on these forums all they want and say that 95 or 99 percent of men are crap and it all gets given a free pass.

Tamaka

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RM- You are putting all women into the same group

I never claimed that all women believe it's only the man's job to initiate contact. The percentage that do is most probably large though.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 1:36:32 AM

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I will initiate contact. I get a fair amount of messages, but because I'm only looking for real life and in my local fairly limited area then I can't just wait for that person I'm looking for to contact me.

And even if I initiate contact, or respond positively to a contact because I like the look of someone's profile there is no guarantee that they will be actually interested in what I want.

I do like to be wooed, but I also like men who are not intimidated by a woman being direct and approaching them - which surprising still happens to dominant women.

I'll initiate contact with someone who I think I'll like, who seems like he would fun to spend time with - someone who has more on his interests list than a whole bunch of kinky stuff (a lot of which I may not like myself), who has a pleasant profile message, who has nice interactions with others.
I'm looking for someone to date, to have a relationship with - that just happens to be F/m.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 3:05:59 AM

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I don't think it's the mans jobs to make contact, I think it's the SUBS job.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 3:53:52 AM

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Whilst I also agree with what you are saying, in principal, I don't agree with your wording or additional snide wee comments.

But some women will actually send and email x all sites.
I could cite the hows and why but it would take too long here are two examples.

Lets say there are 10-20 men to one "women"
Day 1. 20 of those men have emailed that one women
Day 2. 40 men have now emailed those 2 women
Day 3. 60 men have now emailed those 3 women
Day 4. 80 men have now emailed those 4 women
Day 5. 100 men have now emailed those 5 women

Day 100. 2000 men have now emailed those 100 women

Year1. 7,300 men have now emailed those 365 women - so effectively each women doesn't have just 20 emails she has 7000 emails

How many of them are good emails who knows but they wont all be bad emails.

Example 2: Women tells me her last 10 dates didn't show up,or the last 100 men she spoke too turned out to be not what they said. Is that her fault or the married men taking the piss out of her?

Anyway is essence you have a catch 22 of the above 2 examples, I could have added more but will keep it brief.

< Message edited by WickedsDesire -- 5/30/2017 3:56:07 AM >

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 3:59:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Whilst I also agree with what you are saying, in principal, I don't agree with your wording or additional snide wee comments.

But some women will actually send and email x all sites.
I could cite the hows and why but it would take too long here are two examples.

Lets say there are 10-20 men to one "women"
Day 1. 20 of those men have emailed that one women
Day 2. 40 men have now emailed those 2 women
Day 3. 60 men have now emailed those 3 women
Day 4. 80 men have now emailed those 4 women
Day 5. 100 men have now emailed those 5 women

Day 100. 2000 men have now emailed those 100 women

Year1. 7,300 men have now emailed those 365 women - so effectively each women doesn't have just 20 emails she has 7000 emails

And many forget (or don't care) that they have been declined and email the same copy and paste message again every few weeks until they are blocked.

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 4:03:22 AM

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I recommend the copy and paste why spend 20 minutes writing something decent that she would not understand anyway unless it was fanciful prince charming malarkey

By all means vary them to suit the almost certain blank profile, entitled profile, with no pictures, you are emailing.

I will add an edit into this one:

If a man emails 100 women - then you are lucky if those 30-50 mails go to an actual women. So blame the men creating women profiles, scammers, and all sites doing nothing about this.

< Message edited by WickedsDesire -- 5/30/2017 4:46:19 AM >

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 5:04:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

I recommend the copy and paste why spend 20 minutes writing something decent that she would not understand anyway unless it was fanciful prince charming malarkey

Lol, WD, it is only exclusively you that if you take the time to pen something, women cannot understand what are you saying! Too "poetic"?

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RE: Women who think it's only the man's job to initiate... - 5/30/2017 5:54:15 AM

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From a copy and paste effort
1. half of them laugh
2. half of them say i don't understand and tell me to fuk off and block me :).

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