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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

For the same reason we once feared Nazis

They're a mass murdering fascist cult of personality

Slaughtered 270 million innocents so far and counting. Enslaves entire national populations to the demands of their pig god Allah, as dictated by Mohammad and other false prophets. "Prophets" who would be laughable if 95% of the armed conflicts happening right now on this planet didn't involve Muslims

The Koran tells them to lie to you about their intentions, and they have historically waited until their numbers were sufficient before seizing control

Islam is very young compared to real religions etc, yet in many Islamic states all other peoples have been utterly decimated

History speaks to you, open your ears

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No, they dont, you dont go down to the sons of zion cafe and get blts. sorry.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

but they arent as bad as the romans who holocuasted 4 billion jews according to the jewish bible.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

I was really hoping that at least one person would read the article instead of just responding to the thread title.
Of course, I knew it wouldn't happen... but I had hoped.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

This is a great article.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/18/why-do-so-many-americans-fear-muslims-decades-of-denial-about-americas-role-in-the-world/

Of course the RWNJs will dismiss the Intercept as left-wing propaganda, but at the very least they are as hard on Obama and the Democrats as they are on Trump.

This is the most telling part:

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Trump’s story about why it’s necessary is, factually speaking, garbage. But a normal human being can at least understand it and its moral: These incomprehensible foreigners are all potential psychotics, we’ve got to keep them out. Under these circumstances, who cares that no one from any of these seven countries has killed any Americans yet? They’re all part of a huge morass of ticking time bombs.
By contrast, the Democratic, liberal perspective laid out by Obama makes no sense at all. We’ve never done anything particularly bad in the Middle East, yet … some people over there want to come here and kill us because … they’ve been exploited by violent extremists who’ve perverted Islam and … gotta run, there’s no time to explain.
Regular people could sense that anyone mouthing this kind of gibberish was hiding something, even if they didn’t realize that Obama was trying to keep the U.S. empire running rather than concealing his secret faith in Islam.
And because a coherent narrative always beats the complete absence of a story, no one should be surprised that many Americans find Trump’s fantasy of inexplicable Muslim hatred persuasive.

The most pointless war(s) that have ever been fought, started for purely political reasons, maintained by people who realize endless war is profitable... have led us to Americans who find inspiration in Trump's ugliness simply because the Democrats know it would be political suicide to admit that America itself is to blame.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
If the article has nothing to do with the topic. Then why the hell did you post such a title for the topic?

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
Maybe you should ask yourself if you can be objective about this topic.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

This is a great article.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/18/why-do-so-many-americans-fear-muslims-decades-of-denial-about-americas-role-in-the-world/

Of course the RWNJs will dismiss the Intercept as left-wing propaganda, but at the very least they are as hard on Obama and the Democrats as they are on Trump.

This is the most telling part:

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Trump’s story about why it’s necessary is, factually speaking, garbage. But a normal human being can at least understand it and its moral: These incomprehensible foreigners are all potential psychotics, we’ve got to keep them out. Under these circumstances, who cares that no one from any of these seven countries has killed any Americans yet? They’re all part of a huge morass of ticking time bombs.
By contrast, the Democratic, liberal perspective laid out by Obama makes no sense at all. We’ve never done anything particularly bad in the Middle East, yet … some people over there want to come here and kill us because … they’ve been exploited by violent extremists who’ve perverted Islam and … gotta run, there’s no time to explain.
Regular people could sense that anyone mouthing this kind of gibberish was hiding something, even if they didn’t realize that Obama was trying to keep the U.S. empire running rather than concealing his secret faith in Islam.
And because a coherent narrative always beats the complete absence of a story, no one should be surprised that many Americans find Trump’s fantasy of inexplicable Muslim hatred persuasive.

The most pointless war(s) that have ever been fought, started for purely political reasons, maintained by people who realize endless war is profitable... have led us to Americans who find inspiration in Trump's ugliness simply because the Democrats know it would be political suicide to admit that America itself is to blame.

I would not call it fear. I would call it a dislike for the political and cultural ideology of Islam - Muslims are just those that carry it out. These are things that I dislike about it:

Female Genital Mutilation,
Honor violence,
Religiously mandated spousal abuse,
Blasphemy codes,
The persecution of religious and sexual minorities,
The subjugation of women,
The grooming and sexual exploitation of girls,
The murder of apostates,
The dehumanization of unbelievers,
The indoctrination of children,
The contempt for liberalism,
The surrender of critical thought,
and the systematic bludgeoning to death of free expression.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

This is a great article.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/18/why-do-so-many-americans-fear-muslims-decades-of-denial-about-americas-role-in-the-world/

Of course the RWNJs will dismiss the Intercept as left-wing propaganda, but at the very least they are as hard on Obama and the Democrats as they are on Trump.

This is the most telling part:

quote:

Trump’s story about why it’s necessary is, factually speaking, garbage. But a normal human being can at least understand it and its moral: These incomprehensible foreigners are all potential psychotics, we’ve got to keep them out. Under these circumstances, who cares that no one from any of these seven countries has killed any Americans yet? They’re all part of a huge morass of ticking time bombs.
By contrast, the Democratic, liberal perspective laid out by Obama makes no sense at all. We’ve never done anything particularly bad in the Middle East, yet … some people over there want to come here and kill us because … they’ve been exploited by violent extremists who’ve perverted Islam and … gotta run, there’s no time to explain.
Regular people could sense that anyone mouthing this kind of gibberish was hiding something, even if they didn’t realize that Obama was trying to keep the U.S. empire running rather than concealing his secret faith in Islam.
And because a coherent narrative always beats the complete absence of a story, no one should be surprised that many Americans find Trump’s fantasy of inexplicable Muslim hatred persuasive.

The most pointless war(s) that have ever been fought, started for purely political reasons, maintained by people who realize endless war is profitable... have led us to Americans who find inspiration in Trump's ugliness simply because the Democrats know it would be political suicide to admit that America itself is to blame.

I would not call it fear. I would call it a dislike for the political and cultural ideology of Islam - Muslims are just those that carry it out. These are things that I dislike about it:

Female Genital Mutilation,
Honor violence,
Religiously mandated spousal abuse,
Blasphemy codes,
The persecution of religious and sexual minorities,
The subjugation of women,
The grooming and sexual exploitation of girls,
The murder of apostates,
The dehumanization of unbelievers,
The indoctrination of children,
The contempt for liberalism,
The surrender of critical thought,
and the systematic bludgeoning to death of free expression.

What about:

Decades spent killing and oppressing families in the middle east,
Sexual assaults committed by soldiers and a child prostitution ring run by Trump associate Erik Prince,
Heavily contributing to the rise of extremist terror groups by giving them genuine reason to hate America,
Killing for profit,
Non-religiously mandated spousal abuse,
The persecution of religious and sexual minorities (travel ban and Pence's extreme homophobia... and he caused an AIDS epidemic by targeting clinics that also offered abortions... except, oh wait, no they didn't, he just cut their funding... and then spent it on gay conversion therapy),
The election of a bully who disrespects women and brags about it,
The grooming and sexual exploitation of girls (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sex-trafficking-america-0),
The dehumanization of liberals, Muslims, etc.
The indoctrination of children (some schools teach creationism in science class),
The contempt for liberalism (wait? weren't you the one who talked about 'The Great Reckoning' where all liberals would presumably be killed?),
The surrender of critical thought (Trump rallies are better?),
and the systematic bludgeoning to death of free expression (you elected a man who asked the FBI director if he could imprison journalists).

You actually support almost everything that you claim you oppose.
Well done.

You can't hate Islam and then support a guy who not only gives them $110 billion weapons contract, but also a massive share of the upcoming privatized infrastructure program:

https://theintercept.com/2017/05/27/trumps-america-first-infrastructure-plan-let-saudi-arabia-and-blackstone-take-care-of-it/

These investments are expected to make money, and that money will go to Saudi Arabia, who thanks to Trump will now grow increasingly less dependent on the west for muscle.
If you truly think Islam is evil, then you should remember that every time you use one of Blackstone's future roads, you're making them richer.
This after Blackstone gave Kushner $400 million since 2013... totally unrelated, I'm sure.

And that's not just a single suicide bomber, these are the same Sunni Muslims who send terrorists off to cushy country clubs while beheading homosexuals and women who cheat on their husbands. Whose culture spawns new terrorists every day, including those responsible for 9/11.

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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Actually, you can hate Islam and support Trump because, 1.6 Billion Muslims is still a force to reckon with and when you got that many of them, you gotta compromise for your own survival, US only has 300 million folks by the way and if you take away the Muslims, it is less than 300 million.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker
And that was only $1 billion.
But somehow $350 billion is okay.

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

No, straw man king, that is not what I'm saying.
I am hoping that just once you will acknowledge that the orange piece of shit is not the second coming without a 'but Hillary' or 'but Obama' attached.