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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/29/2017 7:43:17 PM   
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There are two answers to the OP, imo.. . .

1. They are unclear about the way the Arabs were double crossed by the French and British in exchange for their help bringing down the Ottomans. The Arabs are rebelling against the false carving up of their land and the attempt to continue the French empire in Lebanon and Syria, and the British to continue their rule in Palestine and Egypt. The Arabs are still fighting the war of 1914-19. Honorable mention to the Israeli incursion.

2. Islamaphobics are unaware of the history of terror committed by other aliens on American soil. There were about 40 letter bombs in 1918-20, the explosion of an ammunition store house on an island near the Statue of Liberty, 1914 maybe, the anarchist explosion of a horse drawn carriage at Broad Street and Wall that killed 32 people enjoying lunch outside.... just for starters.

Acts of terror are not necessarily religiously motivated anymore. In fact, rarely in the United States. Today's acts of terror are motivated by political seeds planted in the early 1900s, not by religion. Islamaphobia is driven by lies and ignorance.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/29/2017 8:12:17 PM   
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Yeah yeah yeah, all the time jihadis rigged to explode themselves scream "this is for the French doublecross a hundred years ago" then the nightclub in Bali go boom

Or the fruit stand in Cairo go boom

Sure

"This is for the French doublecross you bastards"

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Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2017.05.28 Philippines Marawi 8 0 Eight employees at a rice mill are murdered by Jihadists for 'having betrayed their faith'.
2017.05.28 Iraq Mosul 12 0 Caliphate members fire to a hospital and execute a dozen young people inside.
2017.05.27 Afghanistan Khost 18 6 A Shahid suicide car bomber slaughters eighteen at a public bus station.
2017.05.27 Philippines Marawi 19 0 Three women and a child are among nineteen civilians found slain by Islamic extremists near a university.
2017.05.26 Egypt Minya 29 23 Christians on their way to a monastery make easy pickings for Islamic gunmen, who massacre twenty-eight - including ten children.
2017.05.24 Indonesia Jakarta 3 10 Two suicide bombers detonate outside a bus terminal, killing three guards.
2017.05.24 Iraq Mosul 23 0 An ISIS booby-trap takes out a family of twenty-three taking shelter. The victims include pregnant women and children.
2017.05.24 Philippines Marawi 9 0 Nine Christians are captured by Islamic militants and shot to death.
2017.05.24 Somalia Bari 5 12 Five people are exterminated by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2017.05.23 Iraq Sarjkhana 13 0 Thirteen civilians are executed for attempting to flee the caliphate.
2017.05.23 Afghanistan Maiwand 3 4 Civilians riding a tractor are pulverized by a Taliban bomb blast.
2017.05.23 Mali Aguelhok 2 1 Two UN Peacekeepers are murdered by Muslim extremists.
2017.05.23 Philippines Marawi 3 12 Three security personnel are killed during a violent rampage by Abu Sayyaf.
2017.05.23 Thailand Yala 2 0 Muslim 'insurgents' open fire on a police patrol, killing two members.
2017.05.23 Syria Homs 4 30 Four people are killed when suicide bombers detonate a truck bomb near an airport.
2017.05.22 Afghanistan Nangarhar 4 13 Four civilians are cut to shreds by Taliban bullets.
2017.05.22 Syria Deir Ezzor 7 20 Two children are among seven lives claimed by Islamic State rockets.
2017.05.22 Iraq Hawija 18 0 Eighteen civilians are executed by the Islamic State.
2017.05.22 Afghanistan Shah Wali Kot 11 9 A attack by religious hardliners leaves eleven dead.
2017.05.22 Afghanistan Kohistanat 5 0 Five people on their way to a funeral are murdered by Sunni fundamentalists.
2017.05.22 Afghanistan Puli Alam 1 0 The Taliban pick off a man on his way to a rival mosque.
2017.05.22 Iraq Diyala 4 4 Five Islamic State suicide bombers kill four security personnel.
2017.05.22 Pakistan Tirah Valley 5 3 Five members of a peace committed are modularized by a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2017.05.22 England Manchester 22 119 Children are among twenty-two young people blown up at a concert by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2017.05.21 Iraq Mosul 6 4 A half-dozen Iraqis are disassembled by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2017.05.21 Iraq Najjar 3 0 A Fedayeen suicide car bomber takes out three others.
2017.05.21 Afghanistan Shah Joi 20 10 At least twenty local cops lose their lives to a series of Taliban ambushes.
2017.05.21 Syria Tal Touqan 14 24 An ISIS suicide bomber blows up fourteen rival Islamists at a meeting place.
2017.05.21 Syria Deir Ezzor 15 63 Children are among fifteen civilians picked apart by Islamic State shrapnel.
2017.05.21 Iraq Mosul 8 9 Two separate ISIS suicide blasts leave eight others dead.
2017.05.20 Pakistan Kohistan 2 0 A young couple is hacked to death on suspicion of sexual activity.
2017.05.20 Afghanistan Kabul 2 1 Islamists storm a humanitarian group's guest house, behead the guard and murder a German woman.
2017.05.20 Iraq Hawija 4 0 Four civilians are brutally executed by caliphate members.
2017.05.20 India Nowgam 2 0 Two border guards are murderd by Islamic terrorists.
2017.05.20 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two locals are shot to death by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.
2017.05.20 Nigeria Mussa 7 40 Islamic terrorists open fire on villagers, killing at least seven.
2017.05.20 Nigeria Dalori 4 2 Four displaced persons are beheaded by Boko Haram Islamists.
2017.05.20 Syria Jazrat al-Boushams 19 0 Two children and two woman are among nineteen Shiites executed in their village by the Islamic State.
2017.05.20 Afghanistan Gardez 3 31 Five suicide bombers storm a bank, killing three inside.
2017.05.20 Afghanistan Kohat 4 0 Four police officers are machine-gunned point-blank in their vehicle by Jamaat-ul-Ahrar.
2017.05.19 Syria Zuwyinah 22 0 A suicide bomber plows into a formerly liberated town, massacring twenty-two others.
2017.05.19 Iraq Baghdad 19 25 Two suicide blasts leave nineteen Iraqis dead.
2017.05.19 Iraq Sadra 30 32 Thirty pilgrims on a bus are pulled into parts by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2017.05.19 Iraq Rumaila 3 2 A Fedayeen suicide bomber detonates at an oil field, killing three guards.
2017.05.19 Afghanistan Mohammad Agha 11 3 Five children and five women are among a family of eleven blown into shreds by Sunni bombers while traveling to a wedding.
2017.05.19 Libya Suluq 6 11 Six people are blown up by Muslim terrorists while leaving a rival mosque.
2017.05.19 Nigeria Maiduguri 0 4 Three male suicide bombers attack a female hostel.
2017.05.19 USA Tampa, FL 2 0 A recent convert shoots two people to death for disrespecting Islam.
2017.05.19 Syria Maskanah 1 0 A man is tortured and beheaded for being an 'infidel'.
2017.05.18 Iraq Marir 5 8 A wave of Islamic State suicide bombers take out five Iraqis.
2017.05.18 Iraq Tuz Khormato 9 11 Nine people at a market are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2017.05.18 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 8 Jihadis set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two patrons.
2017.05.18 Iraq Baghdad 1 5 Suspected ISIS bomb a store, killing one passerby.
2017.05.18 Afghanistan Marko Bazar 5 0 A religious extremist in uniform poisons and then shoots five colleagues…
2017.05.18 Italy Milan 0 3 A militant Muslim stabs three people at a train station.
2017.05.18 Afghanistan Herat 1 2 Islamists fire on a bus, killing one occupant.
2017.05.18 India Gadoora 1 0 Islamic militants murder a 45-year-old man.
2017.05.18 Syria Salamiyeh 52 0 A horrible assault by the Islamic State on several Shiite towns leaves over fifty dead, including women and children who were de-limbed and beheaded.
2017.05.18 Iraq Kirkuk 2 15 An ISIS attack on Kurds leaves two dead.
2017.05.18 Syria Deir ez-Zor 3 3 Three residents are pulled into pieces by ISIS shrapnel
2017.05.17 Iraq Rawa 4 0 Four civilians are brutally shot to death by Islamic State members.
2017.05.17 Iraq Mosul 16 0 Sixteen civilians are executed for attempting to flee the caliphate.
2017.05.17 Iraq Mosul 2 0 An ISIS bomb planted in a family home disintegrates two occupants.
2017.05.17 Afghanistan Jalalabad 6 16 Five employees and a guard are murdered during a suicide assault on a TV station by Religion of Peace proponents.
2017.05.17 Somalia Wadajir 3 0 An Islamist car bomb takes out three sappers.
2017.05.16 Iraq Madaen 1 2 A bomb blast at a grocery store leaves one dead.
2017.05.16 Iraq Rutba 2 3 Islamic militants open fire on a group of border guards, killing two.
2017.05.16 Nigeria Konduga 2 6 Three female suicide bombers kill two sleeping brothers at a refugee camp.
2017.05.16 Kenya Liboi 4 0 Four are left dead after a family vehicle hits an al-Shabaab IED.
2017.05.16 Saudi Arabia al-Masoura 1 5 Suspected Shiite radicals take out a local cop with an RPG.
2017.05.16 Afghanistan Asad Abad 2 0 The Taliban fire a rocket into a market, killing two patrons.
2017.05.16 Afghanistan Laghman 2 3 Two woman are killed and three children wounded by Sunni shrapnel aerating their home.
2017.05.16 Afghanistan Dar-e-Tapa 2 2 Two children are reduced to pulp by a Taliban IED.
2017.05.16 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 10 Fundamentalists kill one civilian with a planted bomb.
2017.05.15 Nigeria Taraba 12 0 At least a dozen people are massacred by Muslim terrorists in attacks on five communities.
2017.05.15 Somalia Qasahdhere 0 7 Islamists detonate a bomb at a restaurant.
2017.05.15 Syria Rukban 6 12 At least six refugees are blown apart by two bombs planted at their camp,
2017.05.15 Syria Daraa 2 0 Two Syrians are beheaded by Jaish Khalid ibn al-Walid
2017.05.15 Kenya Omar Jillo 1 0 Islamists burst into a family home and kill the father.
2017.05.15 Syria Deir Ezzor 1 14 One person is killed by a well-placed ISIS shell into a neighborhood.
2017.05.15 Iraq Haditha 2 4 Two innocents are blown up in their own home by suicide bombers.
2017.05.15 Iran Ahvaz 2 4 Sunni 'separatists' murder two local cops.
2017.05.14 Afghanistan Zazi Aryub 4 2 Two civilians and two border guards are leveled by a fundamentalist bomb blast.
2017.05.14 Syria Mayadin 2 0 A man and woman are stoned to death for adultery.
2017.05.14 Iraq Shaanoun 8 0 Eight victims of a suspected ISIS execution are found in a mass grave, including five women.
2017.05.14 Iraq Baghdad 4 8 Two Mujahideen blasts claim four lives.
2017.05.14 Pakistan Walicheena 2 0 A politician and his driver are riddled with bullets by Islamic extremists.
2017.05.14 Egypt Sheikh Zuweid 3 8 Three Egyptians are killed in two attacks by Islamic militants.
2017.05.14 Afghanistan Mehtralam 6 0 Six children between the ages of 6 and 12 are disassembled by Sunni shrapnel.
2017.05.14 Iraq Maliya 7 0 Seven civilians are vaporized by a Sunni rocket.
2017.05.14 Mali Aguelhok 2 0 A young couple is put in the ground and stoned for having unmarried sex.
2017.05.13 Iraq Mosul 9 3 Suicide bombers murder nine Iraqis.
2017.05.13 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 1 Three suicide bombers detonate at a university, killing a security guard.
2017.05.13 Afghanistan Kabul 3 0 Suspected Taliban murder two women and a small child with a sticky bomb.
2017.05.13 Syria Bokamal 2 0 A child is among two people executed by the Islamic State.
2017.05.13 Nigeria Amarwa 11 0 At least eleven villagers are shot and hacked to death by Islamists.
2017.05.12 Kenya Nyeri 2 0 Two laborers are murdered by al-Shabaab…
2017.05.12 Chad Kaiga 9 0 At least nine others are killed during a surprise Boko Haram attack.
2017.05.12 Saudi Arabia Awamiya 2 0 A 2-year-old child is among two innocents cut down by Shiite gunmen.
2017.05.12 Pakistan Mastung 27 37 A massive suicide bomb blast snares over two dozen souls.
2017.05.11 Iraq Salahuddin 3 0 A young family of three is obliterated in their own home by Islamic shrapnel.
2017.05.11 Afghanistan Adraskan 7 0 Two women and three children are among a family of seven exterminated by Taliban bombers.
2017.05.11 Iraq Baghdad 2 4 Jihadi bombers vaporize two civilians.
2017.05.11 Iraq Sallamiya 64 0 Sixty-four bodies wash up on the shore after snipers open fire on familes crossing a river to escape the caliphate.
2017.05.10 Yemen Duaan 1 6 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber kills one other person at a checkpoint.
2017.05.10 Egypt Rafah 13 2 Islamic extremists machine-gun thirteen tribesmen point-blank.
2017.05.10 Bangladesh Benipur 1 1 A firefighter is killed by a suicide bomber.
2017.05.10 Iraq Abu Ghraib 1 0 A civilian is dismantled by Mujahid shrapnel.
2017.05.10 Nigeria Buruku 4 0 Militant Muslims slaughter four more villagers.
2017.05.10 India Kulgaon 1 0 Hizbul Mujahideen kidnap a 22-year-old man from a wedding and brutally execute him.
2017.05.10 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 2 3 A bomb planted by Sharia activists leaves two dead.
2017.05.09 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 A cleric is cut down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2017.05.09 Afghanistan Arghandab 1 0 A civilian succumbs to Taliban shrapnel.
2017.05.09 Iraq Hawija 40 0 Forty people are executed by the Islamic State.
2017.05.09 Iraq Mosul 5 8 Five people are killed in a series of ISIS attacks.
2017.05.09 Somalia Goofgaduud 17 0 An al-Shabaab attack leaves at least seventeen dead.
2017.05.09 Afghanistan Parwan 9 0 At least eight children and a teacher are sent straight to Allah by a bomb planted in their seminary classroom.
2017.05.09 Syria Raqqa 1 0 A Russian captive is beheaded by Islamic State members.
2017.05.09 Thailand Pattani 1 62 Children are among the casualties of two Muslim bomb blasts at a shopping center.
2017.05.08 Bangladesh Mymensingh 1 0 An Ahmadi imam is hacked to death in his own mosque by three seminary students.
2017.05.08 Somalia Mogadishu 8 25 Islamists stage a suicide bombing and a shooting attack on an Italian coffee café, killing eight patrons.
2017.05.08 Egypt Nasr City 3 0 Suspected fundamentalists open fire on police in a drive-by, killing three.
2017.05.08 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A girl is murdered by her father and brother for unIslamic activity.
2017.05.07 Iraq Mosul 4 9 Four innocents are blown to bits when ISIS members fire a rocket into a grocery store.
2017.05.07 Iraq Wadi Akkab 9 0 Nine Iraqis are laid out by four Fedayeen suicide bombers.
2017.05.07 Mali Almoustrat 7 7 At least seven others are killed in a suicide bombing and rocket attack.
2017.05.07 Nigeria Logo 15 6 Fifteen villagers are massacred by Fulani terrorists.
2017.05.07 Iraq Kirkuk 2 3 Two Iraqis are cut down by an Islamic State suicide bomber.
2017.05.06 India Kulgam 4 0 Three civilians and a cop are laid out by an Islamist drive-by.
2017.05.06 Egypt Rafah 3 0 A father and two sons are found beheaded a few days after being kidnapped by the Islamic State.
2017.05.06 Afghanistan Qala-e Zal 4 0 At least four others are left dead after a massive Taliban attack.
2017.05.06 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 3 A Mujahideen bomb blast cuts down two civilians.
2017.05.06 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 A Coptic minority is shot to death by radical Muslims at a barber shop.
2017.05.05 Iraq Haditha 5 8 Eight Iraqis are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2017.05.05 Pakistan Rawalpindi 1 0 A teenage girl is shot to death by her family for turning down a marriage proposal.
2017.05.05 Chad Kaiga 9 28 Nine border guards are slain by Boko Haram.
2017.05.05 Chechnya Grozny 1 0 Authorities learn of a 17-year-old pushed off a 9th floor balcony by an uncle for being gay.
2017.05.04 Nigeria Konduga 5 6 Two Shahid suicide bombers murder five others, including a young girl.
2017.05.04 India Kellora 1 2 A civilian succumbs to Islamist gunfire.
2017.05.04 Pakistan Hub 1 0 A 10-year-old boy is killed when a mob attempts to lynch a Hindu man for blasphemy.
2017.05.04 Israel Lakiya 1 0 A young woman is honor killed by her conservative family.
2017.05.03 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 1 Two suicide bombers take out a young child.
2017.05.03 Nigeria Maiduguri 3 0 Boko Haram strap bombs onto three teenage girls.
2017.05.03 Syria Azaz 4 4 A car bomb outside a rival mosque leaves four dead.
2017.05.03 Pakistan Rahim Yar Khan 1 0 A 63-year-old Ahmadi religious minority is brutally gunned down by Sunni radicals.
2017.05.03 Iraq Abu Ghraib 1 2 A teacher at a secular school is murdered by ISIS.
2017.05.03 Afghanistan Kabul 8 25 Eight civilians are torn limb from limb by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2017.05.03 Mali Timbuktu 1 9 One person is killed when "The Group to Support Islam and Muslims" send a rocket into a UN camp.
2017.05.03 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 An al-Qaeda linked group shoots a politician to death in his car.
2017.05.03 Iraq Mosul 1 12 Islamic terrorists fire a missile into a high school, killing one student.
2017.05.02 Egypt Yamit 1 3 A woman is murdered during a home invasion by Islamic State members.
2017.05.02 Iraq Mosul 9 0 A suspected Shiite suicide bomber blows up nine Sunni militants.
2017.05.02 Pakistan Nishtar 2 0 A married couple is shot to death by conservative Muslims in the name of 'honor'.
2017.05.02 Syria Rajim Salibi 46 34 A 3-month-old baby is among forty-six refugees proudly massacred by Islamic State suicide bombers.
2017.05.02 Iraq Mosul 1 1 A child is vaporized by an Islamic State projectile.
2017.05.02 Iraq Anbar 10 6 Islamists with machine-guns slaughter ten Iraqis point-blank.
2017.05.02 Iraq Kirkuk 2 0 An oil company executive and his driver are assassinated by sharia advocates.
2017.05.02 Mali Nampala 9 4 A Jihadist attack leaves nine others dead.
2017.05.02 Iraq Samarra 2 3 Two Shiites are blown up by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2017.05.01 Afghanistan Chaparhar 3 0 A 9-year-old girl is among three civilians who lose their lives during an ISIS attack.
2017.05.01 India Kulgam 7 0 Hizbul Mujhadeen slaughter five police and two bank employees.
2017.05.01 India Poonch 2 0 Pakistani terrorists kill and mutilate two border guards.
2017.05.01 Iraq Rifai 5 0 Islamic militants open fire on five young children searching for food, bringing down all five.
2017.05.01 Iraq Mosul 4 0 A family of four is exterminated by an ISIS rocket.
2017.05.01 Egypt Cairo 3 5 Islamic extremists open fire on a group of police, killing three.
2017.05.01 Afghanistan Ghormach 5 4 Five local cops are murdered by fundamentalists.
2017.04.30 India Khanyar 1 5 Terrorist throw a grenade into the street, killing a civilian.
2017.04.30 Afghanistan Mazar-e-Sharif 2 5 Taliban bombers pick off a family on their way to a wedding.
2017.04.30 Syria Daraa 1 0 An alleged 'sorcerer' is beheaded by caliphate members.
2017.04.30 Iraq Mosul 46 0 Forty-six civilians are executed by the Islamic State and hung from telephone poles.
2017.04.29 Iraq Jurf al-Sakhar 1 10 One other person is killed when a suicide bomber detonates outside a market.
2017.04.29 Yemen Lahij 1 8 An al-Qaeda attack leaves one dead.
2017.04.29 Germany Prien am Chiemsee 1 0 A woman is stabbed to death in front of her two children over her decision to leave Islam for Christianity.
2017.04.29 Iraq Bab al-Toub 14 20 Fourteen Iraqis are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2017.04.29 Iraq Rifai 5 0 Four women and a child are executed for trying to flee the Islamic State.
2017.04.29 Iraq Mosul 3 2 Three humanitarian workers are blown to bits by an ISIS rocket while distributing food.



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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/29/2017 10:26:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
How does criticizing Islam create terrorists, if Islam has nothing to do with terrorism


You think that these people are doing this because you're criticizing them?
I have a really hard time believing that even you are this ignorant.

Let's see:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html

quote:

As pointed out by RAND's Bruce Hoffman, in 1980 two out of 64 groups were categorized as largely religious in motivation; in 1995 almost half of the identified groups, 26 out of 56, were classified as religiously motivated; the majority of these espoused Islam as their guiding force.


So what happened around 1980?
Why is it that before 1980, Islamic extremism wasn't a major concern at all?

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/29/2017 11:00:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Yeah yeah yeah, all the time jihadis rigged to explode themselves scream "this is for the French doublecross a hundred years ago" then the nightclub in Bali go boom

Or the fruit stand in Cairo go boom

Sure

"This is for the French doublecross you bastards"

quote:

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2017.05.28 Philippines Marawi 8 0 Eight employees at a rice mill are murdered by Jihadists for 'having betrayed their faith'.
2017.05.28 Iraq Mosul 12 0 Caliphate members fire to a hospital and execute a dozen young people inside.
2017.05.27 Afghanistan Khost 18 6 A Shahid suicide car bomber slaughters eighteen at a public bus station.
2017.05.27 Philippines Marawi 19 0 Three women and a child are among nineteen civilians found slain by Islamic extremists near a university.
2017.05.26 Egypt Minya 29 23 Christians on their way to a monastery make easy pickings for Islamic gunmen, who massacre twenty-eight - including ten children.
2017.05.24 Indonesia Jakarta 3 10 Two suicide bombers detonate outside a bus terminal, killing three guards.


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yeh yeh and htey had great teachers didnt they.


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United States involvement in regime change has entailed both overt and covert actions aimed at altering, replacing, or preserving foreign governments. In the latter half of the 19th century, the U.S. government undertook regime change actions mainly in Latin America and the southwest Pacific, and included the Mexican-American, Spanish-American and Philippine-American wars. At the onset of the 20th century the United States shaped or installed friendly governments in many countries including Panama, Honduras, Nicaragua, Mexico, Haiti, and the Dominican Republic.

In the aftermath of World War II, the U.S. government expanded the geographic scope of its regime change actions, as the country struggled with the Soviet Union for global leadership and influence within the context of the Cold War. Significant involvements included the 1950 Korean War, the 1953 Iranian coup d'état, the 1961 Bay of Pigs Invasion targeting Cuba, the Vietnam War, and support for the Argentinian Dirty War, but included other operations throughout the world.

Also after World War II, the United States in 1945 ratified[1] the UN Charter, the preeminent international law document,[2] which legally bound the U.S. government to the Charter's provisions, including Article 2(4), which prohibits the threat or use of force in international relations, except in very limited circumstances.[3] Therefore, any legal claim advanced to justify regime change by a foreign power carries a particularly heavy burden.[4]

Following the Dissolution of the Soviet Union, the United States has led or supported wars to determine the governance of a number of countries. Stated U.S. aims in these conflicts have included fighting the War on Terror as in the 2001 Afghan war, or removing dictatorial and hostile regimes in the 2003 Iraq War and 2011 military intervention in Libya.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change


Only we did it on a huge scale nations instead of a few here and a few there

what makes us any different?




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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 6:27:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

So what happened around 1980?
Why is it that before 1980, Islamic extremism wasn't a major concern at all?


What happened to your brain

From Wikipedia:

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The First Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Tripolitanian War and the Barbary Coast War, was the first of two Barbary Wars between the United States, Sweden and the four North African states known collectively as the "Barbary States". Three of these were nominal provinces of the Ottoman Empire, but in practice autonomous: Tripoli, Algiers, and Tunis. The fourth was the independent Sultanate of Morocco.[4] The cause of the war was pirates from the Barbary States seizing American merchant ships and holding the crews for ransom, demanding the U.S. pay tribute to the Barbary rulers. United States President Thomas Jefferson refused to pay this tribute, in addition Sweden had been at war with the Tripolitans since 1800.[5]

Background and Overview[edit]

See also: Barbary slave trade

Barbary corsairs and crews from the North African Ottoman provinces of Algiers, Tunis, Tripoli, and the independent Sultanate of Morocco under the Alaouite dynasty (the Barbary Coast) were the scourge of the Mediterranean.[6] Capturing merchant ships and enslaving or ransoming their crews provided the Muslim rulers of these nations with wealth and naval power. The Roman Catholic Trinitarian Order, or order of "Mathurins", had operated from France for centuries with the special mission of collecting and disbursing funds for the relief and ransom of prisoners of Mediterranean pirates. According to Robert Davis, between 1 and 1.25 million Europeans were captured by Barbary pirates and sold as slaves between the 16th and 19th centuries.[7]


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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 6:43:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

what makes us any different? [/color]




In every case (after WW II) we were defending populations from tyrannical regimes and / or expansionist authoritarian regimes bent on world domination. It was self preservation

We also had the UN on our side in most cases, if not every case

Prior to that we were doing what practically everyone else in the world had done

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 6:50:11 AM   
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Piracy and slavery were hardly the province of Muslim perpetrators. Slavery to the New World was a global trade from 1500 to 1865. Slavery itself is well over 5500 years old. And piracy was thriving without Barbary input.

http://thepirateempire.blogspot.com/2013/11/pirates-and-slavery-in-new-world.html
http://sharondraper.com/timeline.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_in_the_Caribbean

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 6:50:50 AM   
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Sorry, but one of my favorite Italian joints is owned by a guy named Mohammed.
A lot of his relatives work there and the ingredients of the dishes on his menu have pork sausage, pepperoni, ham, bacon, shellfish, etc.

I guess they aren't militant.

Does he identify as a Muslim? Since it's the US, many people with Muslim names may have left Islam since they won't get in trouble for doing that over there.

I would totally frequent a cafe run by Muslims that serves pork. Without a doubt! I'd be their number 1 customer!

In China, being super insensitive, they pretty label things "halal pork" in some of their pork products, which I find funny. Their idea of marketing pork products to Muslims.

Yes he does

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 6:52:01 AM   
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In every case (after WW II) we were defending populations from tyrannical regimes and / or expansionist authoritarian regimes bent on world domination. It was self preservation



You really believe that don't you?


Bless your heart.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:09:41 AM   
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Your post doesn't negate the fact that we fought Muslim extremists in the Barbary wars, who were African slave traders and who also slaughtered and enslaved millions of Europeans

See also: Barbary slave trade

Muslims always took slaves, and were the foundation for the slave trade "liberals" sometimes claim that they oppose, when they aren't felchgobbling that sharp Muslim putinjizz

Good "faithful" Muslims, those who follow the Koran, and aren't apostates, still believe in slavery today as taught by the Koran



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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:14:05 AM   
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Enjoy your fantasy world.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:17:09 AM   
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Enjoy your fantasy world.


I cited facts that you cannot dispute

You are the desperate childish moron in fantasyland

Seriously

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:20:24 AM   
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Oh, I forgot. You can't read.

Enjoy.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:28:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Oh, I forgot. You can't read.

Enjoy.


Troll. Every thread, "you you you"



The Barbary Pirates were Muslim extremists, my cite proves that. Unless you call Muslims slaughtering and enslaving every defenseless person they come in contact with "moderate"

I have also proven that Muslim teachings and beliefs to this day encourage slavery

You have only managed an effeminate catty little lame troll swipe at the messenger


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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:31:13 AM   
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And I proved that's an incidental piece of the pirate slavery picture.

But no! It's the Muslims!

Reading comprehension problem for sure.

Or a blind hatred of all things Islam.

Or both.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:32:15 AM   
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I dont think its really 'so many Americans' I think its cowardly nutsuckers who are known for their pants shitting skills that live in fear.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:34:10 AM   
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And I proved that's an incidental piece of the pirate slavery picture.

But no! It's the Muslims!

Reading comprehension problem for sure.

Or a blind hatred of all things Islam.

Or both.


I see. "Moderate" Muslims, have always taken slaves everywhere they went... There is nothing to see here

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:34:56 AM   
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so have moderate christians. so have moderate everyone.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:36:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And I proved that's an incidental piece of the pirate slavery picture.

But no! It's the Muslims!

Reading comprehension problem for sure.

Or a blind hatred of all things Islam.

Or both.


I see. "Moderate" Muslims, have always taken slaves everywhere they went... There is nothing to see here

So it's reading comprehension then.

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RE: Why do so many Americans fear Muslims? - 5/30/2017 7:43:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And I proved that's an incidental piece of the pirate slavery picture.

But no! It's the Muslims!

Reading comprehension problem for sure.

Or a blind hatred of all things Islam.

Or both.


I see. "Moderate" Muslims, have always taken slaves everywhere they went... There is nothing to see here

So it's reading comprehension then.


You are a troll. Try discussing the topic rather than make the thread about me, once in a while

The fact of the matter is, Muslims still preach today the values that the Muslims who fed the African slave trade in the 1700s and 1800s followed then

It is in their book, it is in their teachings. We are subhumans to them because we are not cult members

Then, as well as now

Muslims have not changed

ETA, just because others did it too does not mean they were not extremists then, they were. They were barbaric

(See what I did there?)

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