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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 1:24:42 PM   
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Normally, leftists are all about taxing businesses as much as possible

Cap and trade, for example - massive tax on business, and everyone else.

What would be your solution?

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 1:26:12 PM   
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I wonder whether, under a socialist system, private stores have to pay a 'tax' to accept Government-Issued Food Money. I mean that's how it works, ...right?

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 1:31:27 PM   
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Normally, leftists are all about taxing businesses as much as possible

Cap and trade, for example - massive tax on business, and everyone else.

What would be your solution?



They tax them to keep them under control, ...right?

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 1:33:41 PM   
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I wonder whether, under a socialist system, private stores have to pay a 'tax' to accept Government-Issued Food Money. I mean that's how it works, ...right?


You clearly have no understanding of the food stamp program or socialism. You really do seem to enjoy being ignorant.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 1:56:03 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: tamaka

I wonder whether, under a socialist system, private stores have to pay a 'tax' to accept Government-Issued Food Money. I mean that's how it works, ...right?


You clearly have no understanding of the food stamp program or socialism. You really do seem to enjoy being ignorant.



Maybe a new kind of socialism. A hybrid between commism & capitalism. We'll settle in the middle and call it socialism.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 1:59:31 PM   
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It's called a Mixed Economy, and we've been living under that system -- as has most of the world -- for over a century now.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 2:24:20 PM   
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Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food stamps

So much for pro-business.

* Trump wants to charge retailers a fee for accepting food stamps as payment from the poor.
* Separately, the Trump administration is proposing $191 billion in cuts over the next decade to the food stamp program.

The White House proposal to overhaul the U.S. food stamp program — and the deep cuts it would make to benefits for the poorest households — has sparked public outrage on both sides of the aisle. But there's another change tucked into the proposal that businesses say caught them off guard — and could wind up costing them more than $2 billion.

That provision is a new fee that the White House wants to charge retailers that accept food stamps.

The proposal surprised the grocery industry, which is already fighting to block the controversial border adjustment tax on Capitol Hill. That measure would lower the cost of exports but raise the price of imports and has been widely opposed by chain retailers. Trump's food stamp fee, however, would fall squarely on supermarkets.

Grocers oppose the "flawed policy of imposing fees on food retailers in order to reduce the cost of the federal government's nutrition assistance benefits to the most needy in our society," said Leslie G. Sarasin, president of the Food Marketing Institute, which represents the industry.
Changes hit congressional opposition

But the proposed changes are already running into obstacles on Capitol Hill — even among Republicans. Rep. Michael Conaway of Texas and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas, the chairmen of the House and Senate agriculture committees, have signaled they would fight the measure.

"We need to take a look at our nutrition assistance programs to ensure that they are helping the most vulnerable in our society," they said in a statement.

"Implementing cuts to that extent are going to have stark consequences for retailers, especially in low-income communities." -Brian Lang, director of healthy food access, The Food Trust

More: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/07/trump-wants-to-start-charging-stores-to-accept-food-stamps.html



Actually, charging businesses (and individuals) for their "transfers" (doing business) is precisely "pro business"

No different than a debit card (charged to the user).

That being said....as an aside....as a staunch Republican....I'm finding it VASTLY much harder to support this man...on a daily basis.

His policies? I get it and support it/them....shit's gotta change and...yes...we all have to pay the costs.

Bannon is supporting a 44% tax rate for the Uber wealthy...love it....(all you whiny fucks that think he's all about the rich....pay attention).

I'm not one of the few that will be hit by the proposed but...I'd be fine (as I've said multiple times) if I were.

Now...on to my larger point:

Today, some General or Admiral or....what the fuck ever big high caliber dude in the military said (as to a nuclear strike)..."I'd light up China if Trump said to do so".

DA PHUQUE!!!

That's not even a current fucking TOPIC!!!!

DA PHUQUE!!!!

If I were Trump....I'd have fired that FUCK within 7 milliseconds of the comment being posted on world news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeeeezus fucking GAWD!!!

I don't give a fuck if he was speaking "on his own"....anyone in MY employ......speaks for ME!!!.

And if they do NOT speak MY line....they're fucking gone.

Either THAT fuck needs to be fired or....our President needs to be!

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 2:55:27 PM   
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Or both.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 3:00:23 PM   
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If I were Trump....I'd have fired that FUCK within 7 milliseconds of the comment being posted on world news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeeeezus fucking GAWD!!!

I don't give a fuck if he was speaking "on his own"....anyone in MY employ......speaks for ME!!!.

And if they do NOT speak MY line....they're fucking gone.

Another punkassmotherphoquer who has never read the constitution

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 3:47:34 PM   
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how unfortunately ironic; I was just this moment thinking the forum was better because you were gone. I was hoping it was permanent.

although I suppose more of this will be enjoyable:

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If I disagree with another poster I will deliniate my disagreement with validation from reputable sources. When proved wrong I admit it and thank the poster for disabusing me of my ignorance. I have been proved wrong in less than a half dozen cases with more than 20,000 post.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 4:17:46 PM   
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Or both.


(Or both).

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 4:20:55 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix



If I were Trump....I'd have fired that FUCK within 7 milliseconds of the comment being posted on world news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jeeeezus fucking GAWD!!!

I don't give a fuck if he was speaking "on his own"....anyone in MY employ......speaks for ME!!!.

And if they do NOT speak MY line....they're fucking gone.

Another punkassmotherphoquer who has never read the constitution



Whether I've read the Constitution....or...I haven't...is beside the point.

What this man did is the equivalent of inciting a (global) riot.

There are laws regards that in public discourse....whether there are (or are not) in global discourse is also....beside the point.

Some things go unsaid.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/28/2017 10:16:30 PM   
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It's called a Mixed Economy, and we've been living under that system -- as has most of the world -- for over a century now.


Really? What businesses does the government own & run? Do you get your groceries at a government grocery store?

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 2:04:44 AM   
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FR,

Any cost added to the cost of doing business, ultimately gets borne by the consumers. FirstEnergy (parent company of Toledo Edison and the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Plant, etc.) were fined for an issue where the stainless steel dome over the reactor had pits the size of footballs in it and some of those pits left the dome with less than a 1/2" of steel. The fine was hefty, and came with the caveat that it couldn't be passed down to "ratepayers." So, who paid for those fines? All those fines got rolled into the prices that were paid, not by ratepayers, but by bulk buyers of excess power. While the direct customers of FirstEnergy's power companies didn't pay for those fines, secondary customers did (through the increased costs of bulk power sales). A company such as FirstEnergy isn't going to go out of business because of a fine.

A grocer isn't going to slice into its already thin profit margins absorbing the cost. It's going to raise prices so customers ultimately pay for those "taxes."

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 5:02:50 AM   
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I though the first executive order Comrade Cunt Nutter signed (well more an X marks smear the spot in jobbie) was to rescind Beautiful Michelle's School meal Policy

http://www.newsweek.com/why-have-michelle-obamas-healthy-school-meals-been-junked-592938

You democrats need a Beautiful Michelle to lead, you do know that right? Sanders I did like but he is too old now and was crushed by the Hillary machine.

Hmm food stamps - I am not 100% certain on how they work or who gets what and why. Food banks are on the increase in the UK to ridiculous numbers :((( - shame on the UK

Anyway the poor can go without food for 30-60 days, but not water - ah right so they can now get it from your polluted rivers - So that was a EPA-defunct ploy to get the poor to lap up the pollution from your rivers (136 million affected apparently). Genius if you are prepared to think tremendous things through.

I remember growing up with my ill mum we didnt eat well - no money and benefits were less than a pittance back then 30 plus years ago. We now have over 1 million children in poverty in the UK - the numbers have substantially increased since the Tory Scumbag party came to power in 2010

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 5:07:15 AM   
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It's called a Mixed Economy, and we've been living under that system -- as has most of the world -- for over a century now.


Really? What businesses does the government own & run? Do you get your groceries at a government grocery store?

Military, Postal Service, VA, Intelligence, the list goes on and on.....

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 5:12:40 AM   
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It's called a Mixed Economy, and we've been living under that system -- as has most of the world -- for over a century now.


Really? What businesses does the government own & run? Do you get your groceries at a government grocery store?

Military, Postal Service, VA, Intelligence, the list goes on and on.....

The police, whoever does road maintenance over there and the public school system spring to mind as well.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 5:19:51 AM   
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The UK and the USA have what is termed an ageing infrastructure wicked says to no-one in particular

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 5:29:10 AM   
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The UK and the USA have what is termed an ageing infrastructure wicked says to no-one in particular

That isn't the problem: it wouldn't matter how old the infrastructure was if it was being properly maintained rather than neglected and underfunded, while being expected to perform to same standards as it did when the top income bracket was paying a 60%+ tax bite to keep it working properly.

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RE: Trump wants to start charging stores to accept food... - 7/29/2017 5:59:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It's called a Mixed Economy, and we've been living under that system -- as has most of the world -- for over a century now.


Really? What businesses does the government own & run? Do you get your groceries at a government grocery store?

Military, Postal Service, VA, Intelligence, the list goes on and on.....

The police, whoever does road maintenance over there and the public school system spring to mind as well.

Regulation of utilities and financial markets too.

Licensing of professionals and trades.

Subsidies of oil and industrial faming.

Government cheese and honey.

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