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WhoreMods -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:25:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne your definition: terrorist noun A person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. ‘four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists’ ‘a suspected terrorist’ adjective attributive Unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. ‘a terrorist organization’ ‘terrorist attacks’ Origin Late 18th century: from French terroriste, from Latin terror (see terror). The word was originally applied to supporters of the Jacobins in the French Revolution, who advocated repression and violence in pursuit of the principles of democracy and equality. So then all we need do is pass laws against mooslums so then its lawful intimidation, just like any other religion eh? Since we are talking about crime how about posting a legal definition? You're welcome, twatwaffle. Don't bother to retract or apologise for your lies in post 18. (And that's not "my" definition, you cretin, that's the OED's definition.)

tweakabelle -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:30:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne But zionism is atheist and look how they perpetrate war and murder enmassenburger. I quite agree that the Israeli Defence Forces are one of the world's biggest best equipped and most ruthless terrorist groups. However the OP is concerned with acts of violence carried out by non-State actors. So perhaps another thread would be a better place to discuss this point. It's outside the scope of this thread. As is the definition of terrorism. However, conspiracy boy's loathing of the international zionist conspiracy takes precedence over any discussion of other matters, rationality or facts if he can invent even the most feeble excuse to stink up a thread about another subject with it. I'm surprised you haven't noticed. Yes. He sure has his excesses doesn't he? [:D] I am a little sad at the direction the thread has taken so far. I would have thought that any claim that terrorist acts/acts of mass violence were "predictable and preventable" might merit some examination of that claim. We all wring our hands in helpless despair whenever the latest atrocity hits the airwaves but here is a claim that, if valid, might go some way towards preventing these atrocities. That alone ought to be sufficient to generate some discussion of the claim's merits. Sadly it seems some people prefer to squabble about definitions

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:31:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods There's a link to a definition of terrorism in post six, fuckwit. Here it is again. https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/terrorist]Here it is again.[/link] Another little white one eh? Seems it is your definition, and for those with comprehension carries the meaning the one you chose.

Greta75 -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:34:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods If the problem was the religion alone, then all moslems would be terrorists, rather than a fairly small minority. You miss the part where, not everybody needs to contribute to terrorism by being physically involve. To set up any attacks, it's team work. Funding and training terrorists would be the number 1 most important thing. I'd say majority of them are contributing financially through their mosque. Did you see my Quran verse that I posted which says, "Fight with their wealth or their bodies"? It's whichever. Funding any expansion of Islam is part and parcel of it. Strengthening and planting themselves world wide through development of more Mosques and in the case of your UK. Setting up more Sharia courts, which are legal, shockingly.

WickedsDesire -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:43:13 AM)
While you lot argue over the colour blue. http://www.ispionline.it/it/EBook/Rapporto_RADICALIZZAZIONE_JIHADISMO/Radicalization_web_DEF.pdf

Greta75 -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:43:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle The OP is concerned only with males who commit terrorists or acts of mass violence. There are certainly grounds for studying acts carried out by females but they are beyond the scope of the OP. Why does it disturb you that ISIS is reaching females too? What difference is in the terrorism committed by males or females? The reality is, many females are recruited too. They should be treated as the same threat. quote: I would be interested to see something about the rehabilitation process you mentioned. Is there a link you can provide to enable access to study it? I'd be grateful if you could. We might also note that rehabilitation occurs after the terrorist/mass shooter has been arrested. The OP is more concerned with identifying factors that precede the act of violence/arrest. Not in my country, rehabilitation happens BEFORE the act is committed. This is how we maintain a zero terrorist attack record so far and have actually shut down many before it has happened. Because we are arresting anybody who even shows any link, support or connection to ISIS. All will be pulled and detained and put away for rehabilitation. Zero tolerance! As what we are doing is catching lone wolves, and self-radicalised individuals now. https://www.rrg.sg/about-rrg/ http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/new-helpline-manual-to-help-counter-isis-threat-in-singapore

BoscoX -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:45:50 AM)
Quran 8:12 creates terrorists.

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:45:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne But zionism is atheist and look how they perpetrate war and murder enmassenburger. I quite agree that the Israeli Defence Forces are one of the world's biggest best equipped and most ruthless terrorist groups. However the OP is concerned with acts of violence carried out by non-State actors. So perhaps another thread would be a better place to discuss this point. It's outside the scope of this thread. As is the definition of terrorism. However, conspiracy boy's loathing of the international zionist conspiracy takes precedence over any discussion of other matters, rationality or facts if he can invent even the most feeble excuse to stink up a thread about another subject with it. I'm surprised you haven't noticed. Yes. He sure has his excesses doesn't he? [:D] I am a little sad at the direction the thread has taken so far. I would have thought that any claim that terrorist acts/acts of mass violence were "predictable and preventable" might merit some examination of that claim. We all wring our hands in helpless despair whenever the latest atrocity hits the airwaves but here is a claim that, if valid, might go some way towards preventing these atrocities. That alone ought to be sufficient to generate some discussion of the claim's merits. Sadly it seems some people prefer to squabble about definitions while others blather on endlessly with definitions and expect mass ASSumption to rule the day. Now had you came out here and posted a topic, and said 'violence', I'd have not attacked this topic, but instead you promote the latest BUZZ word which has no intrinsic meaning. The irony is that governments havent even figured out what 'terrorism' means and we arent getting anything constructive from you except whining that we demand to know what the fuck a word means before discussing the subject. I prefer not to flounder around aimlessly. Of course religion causes violence, if your holds it improper for one to steal and the whore swipes everything you acquired in life and wont give them back with no other means to right the wrong you most likely will resort to violence to get it back.

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:47:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Quran 8:12 creates terrorists. so does every declaration of war made by atheists. your point?

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:51:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods If the problem was the religion alone, then all moslems would be terrorists, rather than a fairly small minority. You miss the part where, not everybody needs to contribute to terrorism by being physically involve. To set up any attacks, it's team work. Funding and training terrorists would be the number 1 most important thing. I'd say majority of them are contributing financially through their mosque. Did you see my Quran verse that I posted which says, "Fight with their wealth or their bodies"? It's whichever. Funding any expansion of Islam is part and parcel of it. Strengthening and planting themselves world wide through development of more Mosques and in the case of your UK. Setting up more Sharia courts, which are legal, shockingly. You might want to read the OP, this is not about terrorism, its about psychology, what drives people to violence, in a public venue, in this case focusing on men. The word terrorism is nothing more than a popular BUZZ word used to covertly push state agenda as I have said earlier

WickedsDesire -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:56:25 AM)
http://www.collarchat.com/m_5043085/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#5043085 read Thats all the attacks in the last 3 years and some data at the end from 2014 regarding attacks not in the EU or USA etc

Greta75 -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 5:57:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne You might want to read the OP, this is not about terrorism, its about psychology, what drives people to violence, in a public venue, in this case focusing on men. The only terrorists issues we have in our region are Muslim terrorists, thus I can only explain why Muslims are very prone Terrorism and where the source is coming from. Their Holy Quran and Hadith. The psychology of it specifically for Muslims is religion-motivated. We don't have any other groups committing terrorism here. And also, I highly doubt world wide today, there is alot of non-Islamic Terrorist group that has been successfully carrying out their attacks on innocent people world wide. Which terrorist group in the history of history has successfully motivated lone wolves in all the different country of the world to rise up and attack locally by their own accord? Where-ever they are situated? There is no other non-Muslim terrorist group capable of such motivation to unite Muslim worldwide through a single religion. I doubt Christians had unite world wide before for a single cause united by the bible to plan attacks world wide in their own respective countries as ONE. Which is the biggest non-muslim terrorist group today that we need to be worry about? I mean OP is in Australia, are there non-Muslim terrorist groups terrorizing Australia at the moment that the Australian government is alarmed about?

BoscoX -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:02:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX Quran 8:12 creates terrorists. so does every declaration of war made by atheists. your point? Terrorism is by definition not necessarily the same as war, mass murder, or killing generally. Mohammad taught, Islam teaches the systematic use of terror as a tactic to be used in the name of Allah (especially against civilians) as a means of coercion. Maiming people, targeting children with horriffic injuries, crucifixion, etc are messages to populations Quran 8:12

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:02:43 AM)
great so you got a political slogan to attach to people who are driven to violence by the state. how does that make a case? Why Do People Resort To Violence? Psychology reveals the eternal spark that ignites our fiery rage. Posted Dec 23, 2011 I can't help but cringe every time I hear on the news of another parent killing his or her child, youth killing classmates, or coworkers shooting coworkers. Many people ask, "What's wrong with these people? Why is there so much violence in our world?" We used to think that extreme violence took place only in city streets and in countries at war; we now know that violence manifests in churches, schools, rural areas, and small towns. It claims millions of victims all over the world every year. But where does this hostility stem from and how do we make sense out of what are seemingly senseless acts of aggression? In my 30 years of experience and research, I have identified numerous factors that determine our behavior and whether a person is at risk for developing violent tendencies. These factors include biological traits, family bonding, individual characteristics, intelligence and education, child development, peer relationships, cultural shaping and resiliency. Each factor of a person's life or make up can affect and be affected by another factor. When the accumulation of negative factors (such as maltreatment, chaotic neighborhoods, or psychological problems) and the absence of positive factors (such as opportunities to be successful, adults who provide encouragement, or a resilient temperament) reach a threshold, that's when violence is more likely to erupt as a means of coping with life's problems. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/stop-the-cycle/201112/why-do-people-resort-violence and of course we have state overlords that are corrupt to the core setting the perfect examples controlling our lives.

BoscoX -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:05:56 AM)
Violence and war are bad enough, but deliberate terrorism is a step beyond that.

Greta75 -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:06:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne great so you got a political slogan to attach to people who are driven to violence by the state. how does that make a case? BUT Lone wolves are driven to violence by their religious duty. The people signing for ISIS in Singapore are people in happy families, from good jobs. Engineers, Lawyers, and even this girl I am talking about is living well and healthy with a nice a family who loves her. She works in Infant Care too! Not in poverty of desperate situation. How do you explain that? She has nothing to defend, she is giving up her whole cushy life to join ISIS to fight in the name of Allah. And she is a cute innocent young thing! You'd never think someone like this is capable of Terrorism, plus she works in infant care! I always have the greatest respect for people who spend their lives working with babies, because it takes patience. [image]http://rilek1corner.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/First-Female-ISA-Detainee-320x213.jpg[/image]

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:07:24 AM)
really? The US murdering almost 200 civilians at waco over a fucking gun permit that wasnt even needed?

BoscoX -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:10:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne really? The US murdering almost 200 civilians at waco over a fucking gun permit that wasnt even needed? Hold onto your tinfoil hat Yes, the US government can be guilty of terrorism, and probably has used it. Ours is a government of men, and therefore imperfect The point is that killing and wars alone, violence alone aren't NECESSARILY terrorism Though unlike Islam our leaders are accountable to the masses (we vote), and we are free to speak our minds etc, and terrorism is illegal whereas in Islam it is expected that true believers participate It is illegal to not commit terrorism, or to contribute to the cause of global jihad in Allah's name

Real0ne -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:13:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne great so you got a political slogan to attach to people who are driven to violence by the state. how does that make a case? BUT Lone wolves are driven to violence by their religious duty. The people signing for ISIS in Singapore are people in happy families, from good jobs. Engineers, Lawyers, and even this girl I am talking about is living well and healthy with a nice a family who loves her. She works in Infant Care too! Not in poverty of desperate situation. How do you explain that? She has nothing to defend, she is giving up her whole cushy life to join ISIS to fight in the name of Allah. as I pointed out earlier, its ok if a MOB (the state overlords) agrees that its ok, but wrong when an individual does it. You dont see a double 99% owellian standard here? Look at 911, instead of going after those connected with the incident we go in and attack iraq who had not a damn thing to do with towers, then move in and take over the whole ME, but thats ok because an individual is a terrorist and the MOB is the good guys. Like this aint rocket science.

Greta75 -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/14/2017 6:19:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne really? The US murdering almost 200 civilians at waco over a fucking gun permit that wasnt even needed? No idea what incident is this. But if you are saying US government open fire on 200 civilians and killed them kinda like China Tienanmen square incident, to squash protestors. Then yea, that would be Terrorism by the government on their people. China is another big terrorist organization but they only terrorise Chinese people really so far. And their goal is have control on all Chinese people. Not interested in non-Chinese as it's a race, and non-Chinese can't turn Chinese anyway. Islam goal is to have control over all Muslims and non-Muslims eventually. And will achieve this through multiple strategies. But I highly doubt that's what US did, because remember that incident with those guys who took over a government building? The government just starve them out really. Didn't attack them at all, to prevent end up killing them.

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