Greta75
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Oh and people were paid a shit load of money to make Grenfell Tower look better and turn it into a death trap.
It didn't need sprinklers it just needed care and professionalism in planning and carrying out the "improvements" so that the fire compartmentalisation of the building could be maintained.
But let's not get facts in the way of spreading some vicious hatred.
Fact is, the building is FOC for the residents. Any "improvements" would be budgeted job. Just like the "improvements" done to Grenfell. Was obviously done on a budget, otherwise, it wouldn't be such a mess! And it's a "whole building" so whatever job done may look like "shitloads of money", because overhauling a building is expensive, but I am sure in comparison to an apartment that is fully paid by people, the "overhaul" was done on a budget price on the cheapest contractors. You think top quality contractors will do such a incompetent job?
Cheaper contractors, cheaper everything, leads to this!
Free shit, low quality. That's what it is to me.
I never said they deserve to die, that was all the lefties here putting words into my mouth.
I am saying, they gotta shoulder some responsibility for fire safety because they got the whole building free, if they want fire safer materials, they need to contribute to a fund to get this done themselves, and also, co-operate with each other to NOT burn down their own unit, so they won't cause all their neighbours to die.
They brought it upon themselves. It's like taking care of babies ya know. You gotta take care of every little thing despite giving them free accommodation already! They got no initiative among themselves to get things done.
Personally, the UK government can save themselves alot of grief by simply letting them know the Free accommodation is basic housing. Does not carry advance features like fire safety. End of story! People live there by their own risk or rally up the residents to raise funds to improve it's own safety. It's a free home given to them, they need to get together to take care of it. Nobody light their own unit on fire. Nobody dies together. Everyone is responsible to take care.
The only negligence here is the UK government failing to inform the residents how fragile their fire safety is and how they need to take care of each other by not being careless with fire or electrics that could go wrong.
Initially I thought all their complains are valid because each of them must have paid alot for each apartment, but WOW, it's all Free! So even this homeless situation is not a situation. The government will just give them new council homes and relocate them accordingly. Since this one has burn down.
But end of the day, it's not my money, if the government wants to spend shitloads of money now upgrading all their other council buildings to be fire safer. They can do that and be happy!
But the outrage is unfair to me now. I don't expect any Free Things to come at good quality or to even receive good service from the council managing it. Because it's all done at no cost.
It's very different for apartments here, where if you get a private one, you still pay about 500bux per month per unit to the council managing it for them to address your concerns and do a good job. This is on top of the mortgage. They get paid, then we can expect things.
But these people paid nothing.
It's exactly like this forum right? I don't expect moderators to do a good job because they don't get paid for their time either.
< Message edited by Greta75 -- 6/20/2017 11:56:02 PM >
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