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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 2:36:55 PM

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We pay them to protest at Trump rallies. They get double if they beat up a grandmother.

After 6 months, they get two weeks paid vacation in Venezuela.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 3:31:27 PM

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Shoot a darkie no time at all - you all saw that story today didnt you?

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 5:42:17 PM

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I dont know where dumb-as-a-rock Greta comes up with this shite.. the rents in Grenfell Tower were 2,000/month so whats that shite about it all being free? The building also had units that were privately owned so certainly not "free", in fact costing 250,000pounds 2 years ago and by the pics they were quite nice.. there may have been some subsidized housing as there were handicapped people and seniors living there.. those people likely died in the fire unless they were on lower levels..

More info on the building itself..
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/817026/London-fire-Grenfell-Tower-Latimer-Road-flats-rent

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The block is part social housing and part private, sold or rented out by KCTMO.

It sounds like only AFTER the renovations, they started rented it out commercially for 2k a month to some people, but it's still PART social housing and it used to be a FULL social housing. Free housing for poor people!

And you know how the UK free housing work? They charge you the rent, and the government gives you a housing allowance to pay for your rent, which will cover the FULL RENT, so essentially, you live completely RENT FREE!!!

BTW TJ, if you read the comment section of the article you posted. All the British people posting on the article are now complaining about all these immigrants getting 2000 per mth rental places for FREE. The government gives them this 2000 per mth so they don't have to cough up the money from their own pockets, so that they can live for free.

So YES, the government is giving them FREE 2000 per mth so they can live in a place worth 2000 a month.

All these privileges for Muslim refugees. WOW!

And your mom got help for 1 year. I was reading about people living in that Grendall for like freaking 17 years. That's 17 years of 2k per mth for free! And counting, I am sure they gonna get a replacement eventually.

I think one of the contraversies in the UK lately is how the government is choosing top end property these days to give social housing to. So I was reading an article that, for example, if a person who isn't under social housing, have to pay out of their own pocket, 500k for a 3 bedroom apartment. But a person under social housing, gets 500k for FREE for the same block. Technically in that specific article, the social housing person is only required to pay 75pounds per week, for a home that cost 500k and have it all to herself. But of course, the 75 pounds per week is also subsidised as they get housing allowance. So basically, it's all free.

If I was the taxpayer of that country, lawfully buying my own place and faithfully affording my rent without getting any help from the government. I'd be super piss off.

I mean, I personally felt it was very important to own my own home, and I have fully paid my home by seriously cutting back on alot of spending to make sure I finish paying for my home in full ASAP and work my ass off for it.

And these people getting it for free, would be like so ridiculously unfair. They should have to contribute a percentage of their salary to the housing too. But apparently they don't work, so no income to contribute.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 5:46:00 PM

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my mother was an immigrant, couldnt speak a word of English but she worked her ass off.. 3 of her best friends also immigrants, also couldnt speak English when they arrived.. all 3 of them became nurses and worked hard to make a decent life (in Canada).. any immigrants I have met are hard working and not scroungers and if they get any help/benefits its not for long (I think in Canada a refugee gets help for 1 year, from what I have read)... I guess that is part of why I am so pro-immigration.. It angers me when I read shite from the likes of Greta and Trump, etc..

Why do you feel like immigrants are entitled to the benefits of a foreign country? I mean why do you feel like immigrants are entitled to welfare from a foreign country? Just because your mom benefited from it? The problem is when immigrants feel entitled to walk into another country and expect another country to take care of them. When their own country have failed them.
That is the mentality I cannot stand! Taking advantage of another country!

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 5:50:29 PM

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Greta75. you really are a sad twisted pathetic type of person.
It is obvious your mother never knew which one was your father.
Terri. a Jewish lesbian. with no racist or sexist thoughts.

It's so funny. I only wish my mom didn't know who was my father, so that the father she tells me is my father is a fake father. That would be awesome. Unfortunately, my dad and I look like twins, so it's impossible for people to not see that I am his daughter.

I have often wondered if I was not his child growing up constantly but then the resemblance is too alike. Can you please go back in time and tell my mother to fuck someone else?

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 5:52:41 PM

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We pay them to protest at Trump rallies. They get double if they beat up a grandmother.

After 6 months, they get two weeks paid vacation in Venezuela.

Soros does

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 5:55:24 PM

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The really pathetic thing is she'll be whining about how hateful the moslems/lefties/other in another thread when she surfaces next.
Projecting much, do you think?

Hey Lefties support a religion who murders gay people and punishes people from leaving Islam and give death penalty to women who got themselves raped.

They welcome these people who support such religion into their loving arms.

For me, I don't believe in others paying for me. I don't believe in paying for others. We all make our own way.

Also, if they are getting everything free. I don't think it's unreasonable for the government not to be spending on the Free Housing, using any top end materials. It's not a priority. Especially in a country where there is free health care for everybody. Most of the funds would have gone to that.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 6:00:07 PM

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there she is, the Marie Antoinette of the East................"Let them eat cake !!!"

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 6:09:36 PM

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there she is, the Marie Antoinette of the East................"Let them eat cake !!!"

There are no parallels, your analogy is stupid

Leftist elites always pit peasants against peasants while the Dear Leader class grows fat and sassy.

They do things like outlaw peasant's guns, and throw the borders wide open for cheap labor which causes massive problems while enjoying their gated communities and armed guards

Meanwhile, useful idiots like you sing whatever propaganda lines you are sold

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 6:09:52 PM

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there she is, the Marie Antoinette of the East................"Let them eat cake !!!"

Getting a free roof worth 2k rental per month, without fire insulation materials is quite a luxury already.

I bet their houses back in where they came from had no fire insulation materials and no where as pretty as the grendall building.

How much luxury do you want to give them some more? Before it's humane enough?

The building won't burn down IF nobody sets anything on fire.

I mean, imagine those living in refugee camps. I BET there are no fire insulated materials for their homes there too. Nothing burns down because people know it's not fire insulated and are careful.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 6:49:47 PM

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It's a luxury these days NOT to want to be burned to death ? They were given a home by a London council ( Borough of Kensigton) that gives that council a 'Duty of Care' I believe. Like if somebody comes to visit me and slips on a loose stair or step; it is my responsibility. My 'Duty of Care'. The Borough of Kensington fell down on that duty.
A fire starting is most times an 'accident' . I'm sure I have that word in my dictionary but I'm not going to bother looking up. Most people on here will recognise it.
When they live in refugee camps it's possibly because their home have been bombed flat ( possibly by the so-called allies) or burned down ( possibly by those same people)
What was given to them was charity and the best that could be given was what WAS given, out of charity. That cladding was NOT put on at their request though. It was put on because of the bitching and moaning from the rich, powerful and uncharitable assholes who live on the other side of the tracks and didn't like the way it looked before. I wonder if they prefer it now ?

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 6:52:04 PM

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When they live in refugee camps it's possibly because their home have been bombed flat ( possibly by the so-called allies) or burned down ( possibly by those same people)

Muslims caused all of the problems but your self-loathing white guilt makes you determined to blame it on the guys who are risking their lives to try to help

Standard stupidity for a "liberal"

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 7:03:51 PM

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It's a luxury these days NOT to want to be burned to death ?

People die from fire accidents everyday. Even if they burn down only their own unit by their own carelessness. This building has survived how many years with zero fire incident?

Residents have lived a good life for free in this building for more than 20 years.

I think it's a nice place they are provided to stay. I don't expect fire safety in it anymore.

I don't expect alot of things in free buildings. I expect them to be basic, run down, pretty crummy. But in this case, they got a pretty nice place and a good location. It's a proper roof and a comfortable one.

They just need to try not to accidentally set it on fire. Which seriously, should be the case for ANY HOMES, even with fire safety materials.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 7:09:20 PM

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Pretty simple shit actually:

Products designed for no more than 3 stories (made in America....not allowed to be used in {or imported to} the U.K.) were installed on buildings (in the U.K.) that were taller than 3 stories.

They caught on fire.

People died.

(Ain't a whole lot more to the story).

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 7:20:20 PM

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The fire safety was the responsibility of the Borough of Kensington. They had that Duty of Care..................there's that phrase again. They fell down on that, as did the installers of the aluminium and the inspectors who]passed the work
How does one succeed in NOT having accidents ? That's why the word is in the dictionary. Accidents happen. you are one VERY luck individual if you have never had one of any sort.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 7:28:32 PM

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I see bosco is back out of his tree again. I wonder what he's gibbering about this time. For gawd's sake, somebody give him a banana and send him back to his branch.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/21/2017 8:53:05 PM

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...and a plug to shut the dumb bitch greta75 up - yeh some went for £250 000 - totally free as you say for the burned alive scrounging fukers.

Anyway the guardian is going with this one today
Grenfell Tower: 16 council inspections failed to stop use of flammable cladding

Exclusive: Officials tasked with enforcing strict fire regulations didn’t prevent use of material effectively banned on tall buildings

Grenfell Tower renovation works were inspected 16 times by Kensington and Chelsea council, but these checks failed to prevent the use of the flammable cladding being blamed for spreading the fire that killed at least 79 people.

Inspections were spread over almost two years during the £10m refurbishment project between 2014 and 2016, but these appear not to have spotted that the building was being clad in a material effectively banned on tall buildings by the government.

Conservative-run Kensington and Chelsea council told the Guardian that the first inspection took place on 29 August 2014 and the last was on 7 July 2016, at which point a completion certificate was issued. It added that building inspectors working for the council undertook the work.

Judith Blakeman, a local Labour councillor who represents the Grenfell residents, said: “This raises the question of whether the building regulations officers were sufficiently competent and did they know what they were looking at. It also begs a question about what they were actually shown. Was anything concealed from them.”

It also emerged that in 2012, designers Studio E Architects proposed fire-retardant cladding, but the product that was eventually supplied for the Grenfell Tower works had a flammable polyethylene core.

Which gives off cyanide according to one of the other papers

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/22/2017 1:01:25 AM

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The fact that all survivors will be given a free new home worth 1.3 Mil apparently per unit, within 3 weeks as promised by Theresa May, tells me, most of the residents are staying for free. Prices of apartments are dictated by the area they live in, so they will be moved into a even swankier neighbourhood. Gotta love Britain! Giving so much to these privileged people.

If this was private, the government ain't giving them a spanking new home one on one exchange for theirs that burn down! And private developer may be able to get sued for compensation but they ain't getting a better new home for free.

I'm just shaking my head the more I read!

I was never worried about the survivor losing their homes because when it is FREE HOUSING, they will simply relocate you and give you another FREE housing.

Which is exactly what is happening. Nobody gets homeless when their housing is government sponsored.

If it was privately owned, that's another story. They would have genuinely lost their homes and have no where else to go unless they cough up money to buy another property.

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/22/2017 4:02:11 AM

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The fact that all survivors will be given a free new home worth 1.3 Mil apparently per unit, within 3 weeks as promised by Thderesa May, tells me, most of the residents are staying for free. Prices of apartments are dictated by the area they live in, so they will be moved into a even swankier neighbourhood. Gotta love Britain! Giving so much to these privileged people.

If this was private, the government ain't giving them a spanking new home one on one exchange for theirs that burn down! And private developer may be able to get sued for compensation but they ain't getting a better new home for free.

I'm just shaking my head the more I read!

I was never worried about the survivor losing their homes because when it is FREE HOUSING, they will simply relocate you and give you another FREE housing.

Which is exactly what is happening. Nobody gets homeless when their housing is government sponsored.

If it was privately owned, that's another story. They would have genuinely lost their homes and have no where else to go unless they cough up money to buy another property.

Greta you have a very strange way of thinking.
1. You hate every Muslim even those that live peacefully and have no interest in any act of violence. Do you know how many Muslim doctors, nurses helped those suffering from the London attacks?
2. Your total lack of compassion for those needing help is amazing. Your all about me attitude is very sad.

I am someone that currently has the benefit of housing being paid for and receive money for my living costs from the Government. I do not work so according to your terms, yes I live for free. But I have paid into the Government "fund" all the years I was working so that if the time came when I needed help it would be there. In my case I had a Brain Tumour and have benefitted from the "fund" that every working person in the UK pays into.

So with your in depth knowledge of the Tower block and its residents, please tell me how many of them had jobs and were working?

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RE: London fire: What we know so far about Grenfell Tower - 6/22/2017 8:24:54 AM

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There you go, thank you for confirming that the housing is free.
If you live in a country where the government does not give you free housing for having brain tumour. What would you do? It's not an entitlement ya know. Other people with brain tumours will still have to find some way to work living in countries where the government does not give this benefit to their citizens. And just because we pay taxes, we don't feel like the government has a responsibility to take care of us financially. It's our responsibility to save enough for our retirement and be sufficiently insured to fund things like brain tumour for ourselves. That's just being a responsible independent adult right? It takes alot of money to keep a country going, so I can't even imagine the mentality of paying tax to contribute to upkeep of a country and then feeling entitled to free housing if I fall sick.

The other latest thing I read now is, Theresa May guarantees that even illegal immigrants of Grendall Tower will not be subjected to any investigation. Free Pass. Taken care of. No questions asked.

Well, anyway, the government is giving them the world now.

And the argument that Muslims doctors and nurses treated non-muslims is a non-argument, because they are getting paid to do it right?

It's not like Muslim doctors and nurses are doing it for charity. It's their bread and butter, so they get funds to fund ISIS. Where is all the money for ISIS world wide operations coming from? 1.6 billion Muslims are funding them. How are they able to achieve everything they are doing? And expanding world wide? Who are their financial backing? It's coming from ordinary Muslims world wide. I challenge western governments to start investigating all the mosque in their countries on where the donations by their members go to. And they will be shock.

Just like Christians donate a portion of their salary to church, but in Christianity case, at least for my country, that's to fund the Pastor lavish wealthy lifestyle, it's all corrupted there too, but at least it's not for Terrorism. Mosque collects money from Muslims too, to fund Jihadist missions. I seldom see lavish Imam, but I know they collect as much donations too. And all that is going into Islamic Terrorist organizations.

Sadly, the west is not gonna investigate Mosques financial transactions. So this will carry on. It would seriously open huge cans of worms.

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