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Because, of course, trying to kill people isn't going to cause them terror.

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His goal was stated, he wanted to kill all Muslims - not cause them terror.

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His goal was stated, he wanted to kill all Muslims - not cause them terror.

Right, so, presumably, there's a way of killing a given group of people without terrifying them in the process? How would that work, exactly, Bosco? Would you be smiling and shouting cheerfully, from your van as you drive along the footpath mowing people down, 'I don't want to frighten all you good people - I merely want to slaughter you!'

I suppose I could flip the question of my last post around and ask you, as a clearly very right wing Muslim-hater: What *stops* you being a killer of Muslims, Bosco? I mean, at every point in any given discussion on the matter, you've made it abundantly clear that you *do not distinguish* between Islamist killers and Muslims in general. Given that this is your belief - why don't *you* go out killing Muslims? Is it because you're basically too cowardly? Or do you think the government and its agents should be doing all that killing, rather than you, as a private citizen?

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Because, of course, trying to kill people isn't going to cause them terror.

Terrorism has a specific meaning that is separate and unique, not synonymous with violence or even mass murder

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Because, of course, trying to kill people isn't going to cause them terror.

Terrorism has a specific meaning that is separate and unique, not synonymous with violence or even mass murder

I'm sure the victims are keenly aware of the difference, and appreciate it greatly.

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Words mean things, and it is mindless propaganda to try to change their meaning to suit your otherwise defenseless political agenda

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Words mean things, and it is mindless propaganda to try to change their meaning to suit your otherwise defenseless political agenda

What definition of 'terrorism' are you using, then, Bosco? I mean, both the London police and our government - neither of which is noted for for being lefty - describe this as a terrorist incident.

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I have never posted that I hate "all" Muslims or that they all believe anything

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Words mean things, and it is mindless propaganda to try to change their meaning to suit your otherwise defenseless political agenda

What definition of 'terrorism' are you using, then, Bosco? I mean, both the London police and our government - neither of which is noted for for being lefty - describe this as a terrorist incident.

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Terrorism:

: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

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Definition of kill
transitive verb
1
a : to deprive of life : cause the death of a disease that has killed thousands He threatened to kill them.
b (1) : to slaughter (an animal) for food (2) : to convert a food animal into (a kind of meat) by slaughtering
2
a : to put an end to kill competition a change that could kill our chances for success
b : defeat, veto killed the amendment
c : to mark for omission; also : delete kill a quote
d : annihilate, destroy kill an enemy
3
a : to destroy the vital or essential quality of killed the pain with drugs
b : to cause to stop kill the motor
c : to check the flow of current through kill the lights
4
: to make a markedly favorable impression on she killed the audience
5
: to get through uneventfully kill time; also : to get through (the time of a penalty) without being scored on kill a penalty
6
a : to cause extreme pain to My back is killing me.
b : to tire almost to the point of collapse has been killing herself to get the project done on time
7
: to hit (a shot) so hard in various games that a return is impossible killed a backhand down the line
8
: to consume (something, such as a drink) totally
… killed his drink and held out the glass. — W. L. Gresham
killed two bottles of wine over dinner
intransitive verb
1
: to cause the death of a person, animal, or plant a murderer who may kill again an herbicide that kills on contact if looks could kill
2
: to make a markedly favorable impression was dressed to kill
killable adjective
See kill defined for English-language learners

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I have never posted that I hate "all" Muslims or that they all believe anything

You have, Bosco, and you have done so repeatedly. You've posted great chunks of the Koran, over and over again, that look violent - with the implication - and sometimes even the explicit statement - that 'this is how Muslims are - they're violent'. On the other hand, if you haven't posted these chunks of the Koran in order to make that point - why *have* you posted them?

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Most everything UK is fanatical leftist

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Most everything UK is fanatical leftist

Right. Including the London Police and our Conservative government - widely considered here to be the most right wing government we've had since Thatcher (and many say more right wing than Thatcher) - who define this incident as 'terrorist'.

You are a gibbering fruitcake, Bosco. You have nothing to offer to any debate on this topic. Your opinions are worthless. *You* are worthless.

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Put me on ignore

I dare you

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Most everything UK is fanatical leftist

Right. Including the London Police and our Conservative government - widely considered here to be the most right wing government we've had since Thatcher (and many say more right wing than Thatcher) - who define this incident as 'terrorist'.

You are a gibbering fruitcake, Bosco. You have nothing to offer to any debate on this topic. Your opinions are worthless. *You* are worthless.

Which explains all of you droolers constantly obsessing over me and my posts...

Put me on ignore

I dare you

You can't and you won't, because I own you

The very best defense you ever have against logic and facts are these hapless smears against me

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Put me on ignore

I dare you

Put *yourself* on ignore, Bosco. Not just here on CS, but everywhere. Honestly, I think it'd make your life a lot happier.

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Right, to move this topic along a bit: what do we think radicalised this terrorist? What was it that tipped him over the edge such that he ceased to be standard extreme right wing fruitcake and started to be a maimer and a killer?

For him to be a "terrorist" he had to have terror as a goal. Was that his goal, probably not. His goal was stated, he wanted to kill all Muslims - not cause them terror. Muslim terrorism has the goal of world domination. Mohammad taught that terrorist atrocities helped in battle. Remove fingertips, gouge out eyes, cut off opposing hands and feet etc so that the infidels remember them and flee when they hear that Muslims are coming for them

Terrorism, is a battle tactic. A war tactic in their "holy" jihad in Allah's name

The driver in this instance, may have been mad, or insane. May have known people who Muslims killed or maimed. Perhaps he studied Islam and knew all too well what Muslims intend to do once their numbers are sufficient from their savage history of mass slaughter

What is your evidence that he is politically affiliated with any group or whatever, or are you just describing your almost cartoonish delusional reality to us

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Most everything UK is fanatical leftist

Right. Including the London Police and our Conservative government - widely considered here to be the most right wing government we've had since Thatcher (and many say more right wing than Thatcher) - who define this incident as 'terrorist'.

You are a gibbering fruitcake, Bosco. You have nothing to offer to any debate on this topic. Your opinions are worthless. *You* are worthless.

Which explains all of you droolers constantly obsessing over me and my posts...

Put me on ignore

I dare you

You can't and you won't, because I own you

The very best defense you ever have against logic and facts are these hapless smears against me

Well, my goodness. Apparently, the wiki agrees with you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

The moose is only commenting on you, it seems he's trying to be cute for the other lefties.

Peon is again being intellectually dishonest.

What's new?

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Words mean things, and it is mindless propaganda to try to change their meaning to suit your otherwise defenseless political agenda

What definition of 'terrorism' are you using, then, Bosco? I mean, both the London police and our government - neither of which is noted for for being lefty - describe this as a terrorist incident.

Most everything UK is fanatical leftist

That your politicians and their appointees are politicizing and propagandizing the incident as Muslim apologists is hardly surprising

Here's Webster's definition - note that the definition for killing isn't the same

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Terrorism:

: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

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Definition of kill
transitive verb
1
a : to deprive of life : cause the death of a disease that has killed thousands He threatened to kill them.
b (1) : to slaughter (an animal) for food (2) : to convert a food animal into (a kind of meat) by slaughtering
2
a : to put an end to kill competition a change that could kill our chances for success
b : defeat, veto killed the amendment
c : to mark for omission; also : delete kill a quote
d : annihilate, destroy kill an enemy
3
a : to destroy the vital or essential quality of killed the pain with drugs
b : to cause to stop kill the motor
c : to check the flow of current through kill the lights
4
: to make a markedly favorable impression on she killed the audience
5
: to get through uneventfully kill time; also : to get through (the time of a penalty) without being scored on kill a penalty
6
a : to cause extreme pain to My back is killing me.
b : to tire almost to the point of collapse has been killing herself to get the project done on time
7
: to hit (a shot) so hard in various games that a return is impossible killed a backhand down the line
8
: to consume (something, such as a drink) totally
… killed his drink and held out the glass. — W. L. Gresham
killed two bottles of wine over dinner
intransitive verb
1
: to cause the death of a person, animal, or plant a murderer who may kill again an herbicide that kills on contact if looks could kill
2
: to make a markedly favorable impression was dressed to kill
killable adjective
See kill defined for English-language learners

So, yes - one can kill or maim or whatever, without being a terrorist committing an act of terror

Why do leftists so often need such simple obvious facts spelled out for them so