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PeonForHer -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 3:22:25 PM)

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Oh, so you manly Man works out and knows martial arts and has avoided a registered arm should have the advantage over my Grandmother ? Fuck you. That is why we used to call guns "equalizers".


I think it's probably a good idea to remember that if you gunsters can't handle the piss-takes about your masculinity, then you might want to avoid dishing it against the non-gunsters here in the first place.




Nnanji -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 3:26:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Oh, so you manly Man works out and knows martial arts and has avoided a registered arm should have the advantage over my Grandmother ? Fuck you. That is why we used to call guns "equalizers".


I think it's probably a good idea to remember that you if you gunsters can't handle the piss-takes about your masculinity, then you might want to avoid dishing it against the non-gunsters here in the first place.

LMAO. I really am laughing. You think I care what a little girly man says. Oh oh...he was mean to me...oh oh. Maybe I should go call the police and have them send a big strong man with a gun to defend me...oh oh.

Lol, the only butt hurting is yours or you wouldn't even be responding. Stiff upper lip and all that shit. LMAO.




PeonForHer -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 3:28:17 PM)

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LMAO.


Christ, man, only teenagers write 'LMAO'. It's embarrassing.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 3:30:13 PM)

Diorite you incompetent fuk, not to be confused with dolerite, but your Yosemite granite is pretty.

And ~300 million ffs and thats before you factor in the age of population and when you can own a boom stick.

Dunno jeff sure seems like a lot of deaths by responsible gun owners years in and year out.

Does the tooth fairy tell you these numbers magically reset themselves every calendar years

So for kids <17 do you believe 13, 000 dead and 60, 000 seriously wounded on a ten year cycle is acceptable


Yes or no?




Nnanji -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 3:32:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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LMAO.


Christ, man, only teenagers write 'LMAO'. It's embarrassing.

Oh, you know that do you? I see your educated intellectual arguments...I'm sorry...I'm laughing too hard to continue the insult. But, you keep it up. Your ass is really hanging out and I want to see just how long your hurt pride will force you to keep it up.




jlf1961 -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 8:42:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire


So for kids <17 do you believe 13, 000 dead and 60, 000 seriously wounded on a ten year cycle is acceptable


Yes or no?

While you insist on trying to portray guns as the LEADING cause of deaths to children, it is not.

Even when you try to portray it as the leading cause of accidental deaths you are still wrong.

From the CDC

The five leading causes of death among teenagers are Accidents (unintentional injuries), homicide, suicide, cancer, and heart disease. Accidents account for nearly one-half of all teenage deaths.

As a category of accidents, motor vehicle fatality is the leading cause of death to teenagers, representing over one-third of all deaths.

Deaths to teenagers 12-19 years comprise a small fraction of the total deaths occurring each year in the United States. From 1999 to 2006 less than 1 percent (0.68 percent)–or 131,000 deaths–occurred to teenagers 12-19 years. This represents an average of 16,375 deaths per year for this group. Teenage mortality is an important public health issue because the majority of deaths among teenagers are caused by external causes of injury such as accidents, homicide, and suicide. These causes of death are, by definition, preventable.

But then there is this nice tidbit

Now, you save 1300 children a year by removing guns from society, so let me ask you this, you hypocritical prick, what the fuck are you going to do about the other 19000 plus or minus kids who die in car accidents caused by fucking stupid drivers, by accidentally drinking something poisonous (like some of mom's cosmetics) or see some pills that look like candy and swallow a bottle, or maybe decide to over dose on flavored children's medication, or drown because putting a fence around a pool fucks up the pretty landscaping, or the fifty or so other ways kids die because some fucking adult didnt have the brains to do something to prevent it?

How about the teenage drivers who went to see Fast And Furious and decide to street race like they saw in the movies and wrap their precious bodies around a light pole, (maybe taking a few others with them?)

Or how about the kid that watches mom and dad have a good time with alcohol and then drinks him/herself into alcohol poisoning.

What irratates the fuck out of me and other responsible gun owners is that you people want to hold ALL (about 63 million Americans) responsible for the criminal behavior or stupidity of less than 1% of gun owners.

Did you know that for the last 10 years most gun shops (about 90%) give a gun lock FREE to a gun purchaser?

So, those kids killed accidentally by guns are due primarily because the gun owner was a stupid fuck that should not be allowed to have kids, let alone a gun.

But yeah, by all means blame the 60 million responsible people for those 1300 deaths a year.

Yeah, I agree gun related deaths in the US is higher than every other developed nation in the world.

However, when you consider that there are 270 MILLION guns in the US, to hold all gun owners, gun sellers, or the gun lobby responsible for the actions of less than one percent of the population is bullshit.

Funny thing is that the gun laws in the US could prevent about half those deaths IF the same fucking legislatures that yell for gun bans would stop and realize that the one sure way to stop people who should not be able to buy guns from buying them was made fucking mandatory.

But, by all means, lets respect the privacy of the jackass that beat the shit out of his girlfriend and ended up with a protective order against him so that it does not impact his personal life by being reported to the national criminal database.

Guess what fuckhead, under federal law, if you have a protective order against you, you cannot legally buy a gun, BUT if the seller has no way to find that out on a back ground check you think Mr. Jackass is going to volunteer that information?

Or, if you are under indictment for a violent crime or felony, you cannot legally buy a fire arm either, however, if that arrest and indictment is not on the national record, the seller has no way to find out.

Or, if you have been institutionalized for a mental illness due with violent episodes, you cannot legally buy a gun either until you have been adjudicated by a judge in a competency hearing and that right restored, but hey, if the seller has no way to find that out, he does not know he cant sell the nut job a gun.....

For that matter if you are under doctor's orders to take anti psychotics for any reason, you cant buy a gun, but again, it is not mandatory for that to be reported, even though it is FEDERAL GUN LAW.

And those laws were supported by the NRA!

Why is it not mandatory, because those liberal anti gun shit for brains congressmen and women want to protect the privacy of citizens.

However, the guy that is on the sex offender registry for trying to hire a hooker for the night in NYC is blacklisted for life.

Stop trying to pull the holier than thou bullshit when you are ignoring things that kill more kids than guns. I mean shit, daily I see idiots blasting through residential areas at 20 over the speed limit in spite of signs that warn that children play in the yards along those same fucking streets.

And banning guns does not stop all gun crime, regardless of what you might claim. Terrorists get guns in to countries with some fucking draconian anti gun laws.

Private gun ownership is damn near illegal in Mexico, but guns kill almost as many people as in the US. Guns are illegal in Thailand, and they get more gun related deaths than the US, due to the opium coming out of Cambodia and Laos.




Nnanji -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 9:03:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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LMAO.


Christ, man, only teenagers write 'LMAO'. It's embarrassing.

Oh, you know that do you? I see your educated intellectual arguments...I'm sorry...I'm laughing too hard to continue the insult. But, you keep it up. Your ass is really hanging out and I want to see just how long your hurt pride will force you to keep it up.

Thought so...girly man. No rational argument. No thought. Just pure kool aid induced response. I did, for a short while, respect your education. It's really indoctrination. Told what to think and spew what you've been fed. Sad really. That's all there is.




Termyn8or -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 10:13:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire


So for kids <17 do you believe 13, 000 dead and 60, 000 seriously wounded on a ten year cycle is acceptable


Yes or no?

While you insist on trying to portray guns as the LEADING cause of deaths to children, it is not.

Even when you try to portray it as the leading cause of accidental deaths you are still wrong.

From the CDC

The five leading causes of death among teenagers are Accidents (unintentional injuries), homicide, suicide, cancer, and heart disease. Accidents account for nearly one-half of all teenage deaths.

As a category of accidents, motor vehicle fatality is the leading cause of death to teenagers, representing over one-third of all deaths.

Deaths to teenagers 12-19 years comprise a small fraction of the total deaths occurring each year in the United States. From 1999 to 2006 less than 1 percent (0.68 percent)–or 131,000 deaths–occurred to teenagers 12-19 years. This represents an average of 16,375 deaths per year for this group. Teenage mortality is an important public health issue because the majority of deaths among teenagers are caused by external causes of injury such as accidents, homicide, and suicide. These causes of death are, by definition, preventable.

But then there is this nice tidbit

Now, you save 1300 children a year by removing guns from society, so let me ask you this, you hypocritical prick, what the fuck are you going to do about the other 19000 plus or minus kids who die in car accidents caused by fucking stupid drivers, by accidentally drinking something poisonous (like some of mom's cosmetics) or see some pills that look like candy and swallow a bottle, or maybe decide to over dose on flavored children's medication, or drown because putting a fence around a pool fucks up the pretty landscaping, or the fifty or so other ways kids die because some fucking adult didnt have the brains to do something to prevent it?

How about the teenage drivers who went to see Fast And Furious and decide to street race like they saw in the movies and wrap their precious bodies around a light pole, (maybe taking a few others with them?)

Or how about the kid that watches mom and dad have a good time with alcohol and then drinks him/herself into alcohol poisoning.

What irratates the fuck out of me and other responsible gun owners is that you people want to hold ALL (about 63 million Americans) responsible for the criminal behavior or stupidity of less than 1% of gun owners.

Did you know that for the last 10 years most gun shops (about 90%) give a gun lock FREE to a gun purchaser?

So, those kids killed accidentally by guns are due primarily because the gun owner was a stupid fuck that should not be allowed to have kids, let alone a gun.

But yeah, by all means blame the 60 million responsible people for those 1300 deaths a year.

Yeah, I agree gun related deaths in the US is higher than every other developed nation in the world.

However, when you consider that there are 270 MILLION guns in the US, to hold all gun owners, gun sellers, or the gun lobby responsible for the actions of less than one percent of the population is bullshit.

Funny thing is that the gun laws in the US could prevent about half those deaths IF the same fucking legislatures that yell for gun bans would stop and realize that the one sure way to stop people who should not be able to buy guns from buying them was made fucking mandatory.

But, by all means, lets respect the privacy of the jackass that beat the shit out of his girlfriend and ended up with a protective order against him so that it does not impact his personal life by being reported to the national criminal database.

Guess what fuckhead, under federal law, if you have a protective order against you, you cannot legally buy a gun, BUT if the seller has no way to find that out on a back ground check you think Mr. Jackass is going to volunteer that information?

Or, if you are under indictment for a violent crime or felony, you cannot legally buy a fire arm either, however, if that arrest and indictment is not on the national record, the seller has no way to find out.

Or, if you have been institutionalized for a mental illness due with violent episodes, you cannot legally buy a gun either until you have been adjudicated by a judge in a competency hearing and that right restored, but hey, if the seller has no way to find that out, he does not know he cant sell the nut job a gun.....

For that matter if you are under doctor's orders to take anti psychotics for any reason, you cant buy a gun, but again, it is not mandatory for that to be reported, even though it is FEDERAL GUN LAW.

And those laws were supported by the NRA!

Why is it not mandatory, because those liberal anti gun shit for brains congressmen and women want to protect the privacy of citizens.

However, the guy that is on the sex offender registry for trying to hire a hooker for the night in NYC is blacklisted for life.

Stop trying to pull the holier than thou bullshit when you are ignoring things that kill more kids than guns. I mean shit, daily I see idiots blasting through residential areas at 20 over the speed limit in spite of signs that warn that children play in the yards along those same fucking streets.

And banning guns does not stop all gun crime, regardless of what you might claim. Terrorists get guns in to countries with some fucking draconian anti gun laws.

Private gun ownership is damn near illegal in Mexico, but guns kill almost as many people as in the US. Guns are illegal in Thailand, and they get more gun related deaths than the US, due to the opium coming out of Cambodia and Laos.


Don't try to use logic and facts on an asshole like that.

Wears out your keyboard. Them things are like five bucks, almost the cost of a six pack. I wouldn't waste one beer on the likes of these assholes.

And BTW, 1,300 is a drop in the bucket, I simply do not care. If you do not want our kids shot, don't shoot them. Also, do not let them hang around with those who would shoot them. If you cannot handle that then you are not an effective Parent.

Was watching TV with Ma the other day and all kinds of bad shit happened to someone. I said "You know why this type of shit does not happen to us ? ". I went on "Because we stay away from certain people, like n____s, people with piercings through their whole fucking head, tattoos that would make them unemployable even at a fucking circus and a few other types, like those who don't/won't talk right".

And we do not do certain things. Deal drugs, tell you what, I did try that when I was younger but as a White person with a brain I only dealt with people I know. Then I tried growing and that flopped when all the plants turned out to be male.

But when I was "on vacation" for drunk driving, well they said I was drunk, I talked to some Black people who were i there for selling drugs. I said "Know why you n___s are in here for selling crack, because you are on the streetcorner going 'dimes dimes, anyone need any dimes ?', look, you are making seven grand a week, get a fucking apartment". They countered with the fact that it is hard to run from an apartment. I countered with the fact that they were here in jail so their plan did not work out quite perfectly.

We are a society of criminals. Even if you have never smoked a joint I bet you know a dealer if you live in the US.

Personally, I have come to like the lawlessness of this land. I have gotten used to it. They talk 1,300 kids, I simply do not care. And that doesn't even account for how many of them were 17 and committing rape or some shit, or got into a bad drug deal. Know why less Whites have this problem ? Because we deal with people we know.

Want a real solution ? Make all drugs legal, period. I understand that some should be prescribed by doctors for the sick, like blood pressure meds and so forth but anyone should be able to get anything. If you want to kill yourself more power toya. Take a load off of society and we'll find a mass grave in which to bury you. They should sell crack and coke and even that new opioid that almost killed that cop in drugstores. As long as there is a warning on the label. Just like on a ladder "DO NOT EAT". I think anyone who eats a ladder deserves whatever happens. Like a Waring blender, "DO NOT USE IN A BATHTUB". I you are that stupid you are welcome to leave the gene pool. Collect your Darwin award, you have earned it.

The time has come to stop keeping stupid and useless motherfuckers alive. Life is becoming less and less precious every day, and it is because of the garbage we are producing. Life used to be a good thing.

You went to a funeral and in all that there was "He was a good Man, supported his family, left five kids who are all doing well" and shit like that. Now you got "He abused his olady, raped two of his kids who are now institutionalised, never went to school and robbed a liquor store where the cops killed him".

See any difference there ?

It is long past time for good people with guns to start shooting bad people with guns. We have the law on our side, Castle Law Doctrine and Stand Your Ground. We wanted that and fought for that, and now we have it. It is time to stop filling the prisons and start filling holes in the ground.

I know this is a harsh judgement, and I know it might be too late. But it is time for this. And if think this is just big talk come on up to Ohio and I will do my talking with lead. This whole society is slipping into the mud and it is not guns causing it, it is people. Those people need to be shot.

Look at the disarmed kids in other countries posting here, using cartoons caricatures etc. to describe us, poking fun at having a serious problem. Those are not the actions of adults. Only adults can have guns.

They are sickening.

T^T




PeonForHer -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 11:48:44 PM)

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Thought so...girly man. No rational argument. No thought. Just pure kool aid induced response. I did, for a short while, respect your education. It's really indoctrination. Told what to think and spew what you've been fed. Sad really. That's all there is.


There's way, way too much of your sense of masculinity wrapped up in this gun issue, Nnanji. I used to think that was a corny old stereotype - actually, I still do, regarding quite a few of the gunsters here. But not in your case. For you, it really is a case of 'Real Men have guns!', isn't it?




mnottertail -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/21/2017 11:52:18 PM)

Nancy is trying to hide her kotex. She has had to have sock after sock because she always blows out her pissflaps. Shes a retard.




PeonForHer -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 12:08:51 AM)

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blows out her pissflaps


I'd never heard that expression before. God, Ron, I was having my breakfast when I read that. Have a heart! [:D]




Bootmaster15108 -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 12:09:18 AM)

I wish there was as much handwringing over the 400,000 plus medical errors as the number of gun deaths. Most of which are criminal matters. There are suicides and every death is a tragedy, but you can't pretend the size of the problem is as significant as many others.




Musicmystery -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 5:07:22 AM)

I don't understand why you think concern in one category of unnecessary deaths precludes concern in others as well.




WhoreMods -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 6:14:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't understand why you think concern in one category of unnecessary deaths precludes concern in others as well.

It's a neocon playbook standard: if you can demonstrate that your opponent is being hypocritical about something, then you can claim the moral highground over everything.
Ridiculous, of course, but they honestly seem to think that's how things work.




Nnanji -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 7:15:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Thought so...girly man. No rational argument. No thought. Just pure kool aid induced response. I did, for a short while, respect your education. It's really indoctrination. Told what to think and spew what you've been fed. Sad really. That's all there is.


There's way, way too much of your sense of masculinity wrapped up in this gun issue, Nnanji. I used to think that was a corny old stereotype - actually, I still do, regarding quite a few of the gunsters here. But not in your case. For you, it really is a case of 'Real Men have guns!', isn't it?

Well since you really know nothing about me, obviously you're really motivated by butt hurt. Poor thing.




Nnanji -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 7:17:11 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't understand why you think concern in one category of unnecessary deaths precludes concern in others as well.

It's a neocon playbook standard: if you can demonstrate that your opponent is being hypocritical about something, then you can claim the moral highground over everything.
Ridiculous, of course, but they honestly seem to think that's how things work.

Oh, ya, that's it. It's them damn neocons.




WickedsDesire -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 7:40:25 AM)

So for kids 0-17 do you believe 13, 000 dead and 60, 000 seriously wounded on a ten year cycle is acceptable

Yes or no?

You never answered. I said when you get to about 100 a year, even though I fuking hate the things.

Your second amendment is ambiguous and written for a long bygone era.

You or ObamaD or both, I have asked before when does a gun owner become irresponsible?


Are you now telling me crossing the road, drinking bleach, paddling pool, bee sting, grand piano falling on you, etc are the same thing? Because they are fuking not. It’s just pathetic shite used to avoid the carnage at hand.

While you insist on trying to portray guns as the LEADING cause of deaths to children, it is not.
Even when you try to portray it as the leading cause of accidental deaths you are still wrong.


You are a brazen liar, or off your head, or high on gun polish(ors it oil -or cock spunk), which is it? As I said no such thing, nor would I ever say such a thing.




MercTech -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 7:59:35 AM)

Just in case someone wants to actually have a look at the studies on mortality, here is a link:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr65/nvsr65_04.pdf




Nnanji -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 8:08:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't understand why you think concern in one category of unnecessary deaths precludes concern in others as well.

Probably because the lefties show no concern for other unnecessary deaths. They just have a non-thinking Pavlovian,programmed response to guns.




Musicmystery -> RE: Guns kill 1,300 US children every year (6/22/2017 8:10:12 AM)

Yeah, that's it. Called it.

No wonder you're such a great debater.

Because there's certainly no knee-jerk reaction on this board from the "guns at all costs" apologists.




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