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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 1:49:19 PM   
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Well, if there's legitimate concern, the justice department can block the merger.

But there are several multi-media mergers lead by very wealthy and powerful men--you don't seem to mind those.

What's the difference? Apparently . . . books and granola.

Well what too many refuse to learn about Amazon is that Bezos is not your average go-all-out-for-profit now bear.

For example Bezo's goal is to be the online Walmart, knock out all competition so he can later...go for the throat profit wise. This results in almost zero corp. taxes and even some carry-forward losses. Isn't that precious ?

Here: Amazon's most recent ROE, (return on equity) based on trailing 12-month data, stands at a mere 2.88%. The net income is calculated as the sum of the quarterly net income from the four latest quarters, and Amazon lost $57 million in one of those quarters, a drag on the ROE.

Amazon started on Borders which quit operations in 2011. Barnes and Noble is down and at about $7 a share and hanging on and may not...be much longer. All of the Mom & Pops were gone in just a few years. This sets the stage for huge profits in the future, so Amazon stock has ballooned to $993.98. as of COB today. So you see.

The question is, can [he] do the same with little Whole Foods ? That is very much in doubt because there just isn't that much comp. for it. Maybe the strategy is to lower the 'whole foods' diet prices, make everybody else go away...then let [them] the organic consumer have it, right...in the pocketbook. We'll see.



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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 1:53:12 PM   
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You can be as silly as Bozo sometimes. You've just repeated general knowledge. And the point about Whole Foods I raised earlier.

By the way, there's a thriving "mom and pop" book store here in town -- customers bought "shares" (not actual stock -- they get discounts on purchases) a few years back, and it has a loyal clientele.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 1:53:23 PM   
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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 1:57:27 PM   
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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 2:05:18 PM   
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"refuse to learn"?

You can be as silly as Bozo sometimes. You've just repeated general knowledge. And the point about Whole Foods I raised earlier.

By the way, there's a thriving "mom and pop" book store here in town -- customers bought "shares" (not actual stock -- they get discounts on purchases) a few years back, and it has a loyal clientele.

Well I didn't see a specific reference to Bezos deliberate corp./pricing strategy, vis-a-vis Amazon's core business strategy irrespective of many acquisitions since 1998.

Plus if recent history is any barometer and I saw no reference there specifically, Whole Foods is just too small for any real anti-trust concerns. Whatever is in 'store' will not take business from Kroger or Safeway or the successful regional food retailers even in areas that Whole Foods does have a store. They are just too high now and have too far to go.

And of course, not every small book retailer was knocked out by Amazon.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 2:14:58 PM   
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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 2:56:30 PM   
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Well, if there's legitimate concern, the justice department can block the merger.

But there are several multi-media mergers lead by very wealthy and powerful men--you don't seem to mind those.

What's the difference? Apparently . . . books and granola.

Well what too many refuse to learn about Amazon is that Bezos is not your average go-all-out-for-profit now bear.

For example Bezo's goal is to be the online Walmart, knock out all competition so he can later...go for the throat profit wise. This results in almost zero corp. taxes and even some carry-forward losses. Isn't that precious ?

Here: Amazon's most recent ROE, (return on equity) based on trailing 12-month data, stands at a mere 2.88%. The net income is calculated as the sum of the quarterly net income from the four latest quarters, and Amazon lost $57 million in one of those quarters, a drag on the ROE.

Amazon started on Borders which quit operations in 2011. Barnes and Noble is down and at about $7 a share and hanging on and may not...be much longer. All of the Mom & Pops were gone in just a few years. This sets the stage for huge profits in the future, so Amazon stock has ballooned to $993.98. as of COB today. So you see.

The question is, can [he] do the same with little Whole Foods ? That is very much in doubt because there just isn't that much comp. for it. Maybe the strategy is to lower the 'whole foods' diet prices, make everybody else go away...then let [them] the organic consumer have it, right...in the pocketbook. We'll see.




It's okay though, because he buys leftist politicians

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 2:59:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		If he has any sense, he buys "leftist" and "rightist" politicians.

It's how Washington works. Trump even bragged about buying both sides in the campaign.

Then he appointed a bunch of influence buyers to his cabinet.

Face it--you've just got a hard-on for Bezos.

Books and granola aren't your thing.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:06:06 PM   
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If he has any sense, he buys "leftist" and "rightist" politicians.

It's how Washington works. Trump even bragged about buying both sides in the campaign.

Then he appointed a bunch of influence buyers to his cabinet.

Face it--you've just got a hard-on for Bezos.

Books and granola aren't your thing.


All you will ever be, is a mindless shit-eating little troll whose one single broken lousy trick is to try to make every thread about me

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:08:14 PM   
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It's what you do when you run out of actual points to make.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:12:56 PM   
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Well, if there's legitimate concern, the justice department can block the merger.

But there are several multi-media mergers lead by very wealthy and powerful men--you don't seem to mind those.

What's the difference? Apparently . . . books and granola.

Well what too many refuse to learn about Amazon is that Bezos is not your average go-all-out-for-profit now bear.

For example Bezo's goal is to be the online Walmart, knock out all competition so he can later...go for the throat profit wise. This results in almost zero corp. taxes and even some carry-forward losses. Isn't that precious ?

Here: Amazon's most recent ROE, (return on equity) based on trailing 12-month data, stands at a mere 2.88%. The net income is calculated as the sum of the quarterly net income from the four latest quarters, and Amazon lost $57 million in one of those quarters, a drag on the ROE.

Amazon started on Borders which quit operations in 2011. Barnes and Noble is down and at about $7 a share and hanging on and may not...be much longer. All of the Mom & Pops were gone in just a few years. This sets the stage for huge profits in the future, so Amazon stock has ballooned to $993.98. as of COB today. So you see.

The question is, can [he] do the same with little Whole Foods ? That is very much in doubt because there just isn't that much comp. for it. Maybe the strategy is to lower the 'whole foods' diet prices, make everybody else go away...then let [them] the organic consumer have it, right...in the pocketbook. We'll see.




It's okay though, because he buys leftist politicians

I wonder, could cite any truly meaningful examples ? I need something beyond your all too typical partisan rant.

If Bezos' corp. strategy is 'just ok' then it will as much as for any reason, succeed (pass muster with the GOP) because they repubs, understand anyone trying to either monopolize or even partially narrow markets as a means to really profit later.

That's all part of the right's sociological and political ethos...earth, society and the domination of markets, life itself, all exist for a profit and if possible...a greater profit. Yet another reason why this merger should have clear sailing.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:20:10 PM   
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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:25:53 PM   
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Over the many years, I have said many of these things. Here it is from someone who has been in the middle of it.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/24/intellectual-conservatives-lost-republican-trump-215259

He completely articulates the dumbing down of the GOP (and mentions FOX news in that context)



You forgot to mention that he is a Hillary supporter / swamp creature.





He WAS a Hillary supporter ONLY because he wanted his OWN party to heal.


You mean that party that can't seem to quit winning


I mean the party that quit thinking.


The biggest idea you alt left type have had in ages, is to use propaganda to overturn an election

"Hate Trump" is all you've got


First of all,
I seriously have no idea what "alt left type" is. I don't know much about the slang left-wing ideologues use. The best I can tell, there is no "alt left". I don't think anyone on the left (lefties, correct me if I am wrong) that calls themselves "alt left". The term "alt left" was made up by right wing ideologues to draw attention away from the "alt right", which is a very real right wing racist ideology. (There are actually people on the right who identify with that term).


Secondly, after ALL this time, and many hundreds of posts, you still never learn. Trying to lump me with leftist ideologues never works. You automatically lose every debate that way. You lose, lose, lose hundreds of times in succession with that tactic. Yet, you keep trying it.

You can now add another loss to your list.


I DON'T hate Trump. Never have. He is a product of our badly flawed political system. He fooled too many gullible people into voting for him, and STILL won despite, the majority of people voting against him. The system produced two badly flawed candidates and ultimately, through our systems's built-in gerrymandering ("aka" the Electoral College), Trump won. He made a lot of sense in the 90's and I enjoyed watching him on the Apprentice. I don't hate him. Jimmy Carter was a failed President as well (although not a corrupt bone in his body. Perhaps his incredible sense of morality prohibited him from being an effective President). I have met him, and used to go out his son Jack and his wife for ice cream. I don't hate them either.

I have no idea what anyone you describe has "got".


Here is what I have (for starters):

Tax and economic policies that are based on a TRUE understanding what drives capitalism in the U.S. (hint: it is NOT 100% supply side. In fact Supply Side policies do NOTHING but bankrupt us without a strong demand. Supply-side policies ONLY help when a strong demand exists. This keeps getting proven, over and over. Look at the state of Kansas. It is a model foo every failed supply-side policy in existence.

Health care policies that are based on what drives up the cost of health care (hint: the answer is not to continue to subsidize Insurance Companies, and keep the free-market closed on prescription drugs (the only area in health care that is close to what could be a free market)).

A Foreign policy that shows American leadership and truly promotes peace and prosperity throughout the world. (hint: It's not the "Lead from Behind" policy of the current administration)


You NEVER get tired of losing.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:42:24 PM   
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So owning whole foods is progressive liberal Marxist utopia.

Huh. That must be some incredible granola.


In your cartoonish delusions he "only" owns Whole Foods...

And that's all he will ever own

76 companies since its founding. And that does not include the WashPost.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:45:22 PM   
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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:46:40 PM   
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I will be curious to see what he does with it and how well it works (or doesn't).

Me too and we aren't the only people. I am sure his investors are drooling all over this. His phone was too late but his cloud computing gamble was a home run. BTW, WashPost digital subs and page views are up 30% since he took over.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/26/2017 3:58:40 PM   
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It's just his trolling foolishness. Obviously I mentioned Amazon at the very least. And he's been whining about the Post since the day Jeff bought it.

Yea, must lead I have to suggest...a sheltered life. Plus there are those that will tell you that at $250 million, Bezos got a good deal because [it] dominates the Wash., D.C . metro market with good ad rev. from Md. and Va. as well.

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/29/2017 8:05:50 AM   
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This is what I meant by posting that the alt left hijacked the pride idea for their Marxist ideological purposes



Which marx are you speaking of?

Obama's church, Hillary's church, they themselves were totally against gay marriage only a few years ago.


Cite please.


What changed? The decision to use "gay rights" as a wedge issue, to divide Americans even further and foment hate.


How does not bashing gays generate hate?


Just like illegal immigration, they were against that until they realized they could use



When did illegal immigration become legal?

They hate gays, they hate Mexicans, they hate blacks (in Hillary's case)


Your hatred of mexicans, blacks and gays is well documented on these boards. Could you cite for us your alleged claim about them?


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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/29/2017 11:55:57 AM   
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Obama's church...

Is he supposed to be sunni or shi'ite this week?

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RE: Amazing Article from former Reagan and H.W. Bush Ad... - 6/29/2017 12:55:25 PM   
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so we have a pass on Reagan and HWs advisor, and its back to hillary?
mhmmmm I wonder why


The person who MJ tried to pass off as a "Reagan conservative" for his propaganda piece, is a Hillary person (that, according to the article he posted)


Why do you keep repeating that nonsense? He NEVER said anywhere in the article that he was a Hillary person. He said he voted for Hillary to allow the GOP to heal.

He WORKED for Reagan and HW Bush.

Just stop repeating nonsense over and over.

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