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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 3:25:44 PM

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That makes sense, they were participating in genoside, but they were the victims. If you had done your research you would know that all shouldiers were treated like subhumans. I realize that only disrespect for blacks count for you cause after all white sholders were subhuman.

If you cannot come up with a reference for this comment we will know you are making shit up.

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It was a well know fact that soldiers were held in contempt, except when there was an enemy at the doorstep.

So, no reference. Just making shit up.

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The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it untrue. The fact that you want us to be outraged at the treatment of people engaged in genocide again shows your unlimited bias.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 4:01:47 PM

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That makes sense, they were participating in genoside, but they were the victims. If you had done your research you would know that all shouldiers were treated like subhumans. I realize that only disrespect for blacks count for you cause after all white sholders were subhuman.

If you cannot come up with a reference for this comment we will know you are making shit up.

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It was a well know fact that soldiers were held in contempt, except when there was an enemy at the doorstep.

So, no reference. Just making shit up.

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The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it untrue. The fact that you want us to be outraged at the treatment of people engaged in genocide again shows your unlimited bias.

If you had read the reference I linked you would have noticed that Buffalo Soldiers were admired by the native Americans and despised by the white settlers they were sent to defend. You would have also noticed that they were mostly used for non-combat duties although they did have some encounters with the natives, who assigned them the name out of admiration. You would also have noted that Custer would not have black soldiers in his troop. You might have found out that Black Jack Pershing, who was the commander of American forces in WW1 was earlier called Nigger Jack Pershing, but they couldn't have that in 1918. Obviously you did not read my linked article. Aside from that, black troops in WW1 were kept separated from white troops but were "lent out" to the French command where several were awarded the French medal for heroism and the French were absolutely wild about them; they were however ostracized when they returned to the States. After WW1 returning white troops instigated a bunch of riots against blacks in major cities in the States because blacks were working their jobs.

This whole thing about a race war between the blacks and Indians you invented is laughable.

A race war refers to violence between two groups who hate each other. Your OP doesn't meet that test, but of course you haven't a clue about it either.

No a race war envolves an attempt to exteminate the victim population only the attempted extermination of the indian qualifies in our history.
No, I am not making up shit, I have been victimised by the bigotry against military people.
I have read accounts of the bias against the military. The fact that I have not found support online yet doesn't prove that I am making up shit. I will find someplace on line that admits bias against the military. You also tried to claim I was making up shit several times before and you have been proven wrong every time.
No matter what else you want to claim the black soldiers were very happy to ingage in a genocidal war against the indian. Try as you might you csn't mske them the good guys in this.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 4:26:59 PM

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 6:26:55 PM

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That makes sense, they were participating in genoside, but they were the victims. If you had done your research you would know that all shouldiers were treated like subhumans. I realize that only disrespect for blacks count for you cause after all white sholders were subhuman.

If you cannot come up with a reference for this comment we will know you are making shit up.

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It was a well know fact that soldiers were held in contempt, except when there was an enemy at the doorstep.

So, no reference. Just making shit up.

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The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it untrue. The fact that you want us to be outraged at the treatment of people engaged in genocide again shows your unlimited bias.

If you had read the reference I linked you would have noticed that Buffalo Soldiers were admired by the native Americans and despised by the white settlers they were sent to defend. You would have also noticed that they were mostly used for non-combat duties although they did have some encounters with the natives, who assigned them the name out of admiration. You would also have noted that Custer would not have black soldiers in his troop. You might have found out that Black Jack Pershing, who was the commander of American forces in WW1 was earlier called Nigger Jack Pershing, but they couldn't have that in 1918. Obviously you did not read my linked article. Aside from that, black troops in WW1 were kept separated from white troops but were "lent out" to the French command where several were awarded the French medal for heroism and the French were absolutely wild about them; they were however ostracized when they returned to the States. After WW1 returning white troops instigated a bunch of riots against blacks in major cities in the States because blacks were working their jobs.

This whole thing about a race war between the blacks and Indians you invented is laughable.

A race war refers to violence between two groups who hate each other. Your OP doesn't meet that test, but of course you haven't a clue about it either.

Here is as start, it is something people don't want to talk about.

www.veteranstodayforum.com/viewtopic.php?

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 6:41:47 PM

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 6:47:40 PM

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No matter what else you want to claim the black soldiers were very happy to ingage in a genocidal war against the indian. Try as you might you csn't mske them the good guys in this.

We await the source providing information that black soldiers were "happy" to shoot Native Americans to purpose of extermination.

I don't need a link, though that will do if you have it. A book with that information works as well or better for me.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 6:57:29 PM

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No matter what else you want to claim the black soldiers were very happy to ingage in a genocidal war against the indian. Try as you might you csn't mske them the good guys in this.

We await the source providing information that black soldiers were "happy" to shoot Native Americans to purpose of extermination.

I don't need a link, though that will do if you have it. A book with that information works as well or better for me.

It was a well documented fact that they were pround of thier service. I have had both regular black individuals and history prfessors take great pride in their actions, you might have some validity in saying that happy is the wrong word.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 6:58:58 PM

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 7:04:10 PM

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That makes sense, they were participating in genoside, but they were the victims. If you had done your research you would know that all shouldiers were treated like subhumans. I realize that only disrespect for blacks count for you cause after all white sholders were subhuman.

If you cannot come up with a reference for this comment we will know you are making shit up.

quote:

It was a well know fact that soldiers were held in contempt, except when there was an enemy at the doorstep.

So, no reference. Just making shit up.

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The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it untrue. The fact that you want us to be outraged at the treatment of people engaged in genocide again shows your unlimited bias.

If you had read the reference I linked you would have noticed that Buffalo Soldiers were admired by the native Americans and despised by the white settlers they were sent to defend. You would have also noticed that they were mostly used for non-combat duties although they did have some encounters with the natives, who assigned them the name out of admiration. You would also have noted that Custer would not have black soldiers in his troop. You might have found out that Black Jack Pershing, who was the commander of American forces in WW1 was earlier called Nigger Jack Pershing, but they couldn't have that in 1918. Obviously you did not read my linked article. Aside from that, black troops in WW1 were kept separated from white troops but were "lent out" to the French command where several were awarded the French medal for heroism and the French were absolutely wild about them; they were however ostracized when they returned to the States. After WW1 returning white troops instigated a bunch of riots against blacks in major cities in the States because blacks were working their jobs.

This whole thing about a race war between the blacks and Indians you invented is laughable.

A race war refers to violence between two groups who hate each other. Your OP doesn't meet that test, but of course you haven't a clue about it either.

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Here is as start, it is something people don't want to talk about.

www.veteranstodayforum.com/viewtopic.php?

hahahahahahahahahaHA!!!!!!!

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 7:42:39 PM

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No matter what else you want to claim the black soldiers were very happy to ingage in a genocidal war against the indian. Try as you might you csn't mske them the good guys in this.

We await the source providing information that black soldiers were "happy" to shoot Native Americans to purpose of extermination.

I don't need a link, though that will do if you have it. A book with that information works as well or better for me.

It was a well documented fact that they were pround of thier service. I have had both regular black individuals and history prfessors take great pride in their actions, you might have some validity in saying that happy is the wrong word.

Thanks for allowing that "happy" was not the best way to put it.

But I also think that very few white or black soldiers at the time had any notion that they were engaging in genocide. They were just following orders, one operation at a time, as soldiers do. Unless you're saying that all 'Nam soldiers were privy to Westmoreland's or Johnson's or Nixon's grand strategy.

The majority of African immigrants came here as chattel slaves, there's no way around it. Finding one or two who were slave owners themselves or some few black soldiers involved in 'settling of the West' can't change or justify any of that.

Otherwise, it's like trying to get out of a rape charge because she spat on you while you were punching her in the face.

Don't be that guy.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 8:53:26 PM

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No matter what else you want to claim the black soldiers were very happy to ingage in a genocidal war against the indian. Try as you might you csn't mske them the good guys in this.

We await the source providing information that black soldiers were "happy" to shoot Native Americans to purpose of extermination.

I don't need a link, though that will do if you have it. A book with that information works as well or better for me.

It was a well documented fact that they were pround of thier service. I have had both regular black individuals and history prfessors take great pride in their actions, you might have some validity in saying that happy is the wrong word.

Thanks for allowing that "happy" was not the best way to put it.

But I also think that very few white or black soldiers at the time had any notion that they were engaging in genocide. They were just following orders, one operation at a time, as soldiers do. Unless you're saying that all 'Nam soldiers were privy to Westmoreland's or Johnson's or Nixon's grand strategy.

The majority of African immigrants came here as chattel slaves, there's no way around it. Finding one or two who were slave owners themselves or some few black soldiers involved in 'settling of the West' can't change or justify any of that.

Otherwise, it's like trying to get out of a rape charge because she spat on you while you were punching her in the face.

Don't be that guy.

My purpose is not to lay the blame on the black soldiers.
However when they are told to shoot women and children and to kill the ponies so survivours can;t hunt tey oughtto suspect something don;t you think?
My purspose was to demonstrat what a real race war is.
It isn't an occasional cop shooting someone under questionable or even outright wrong.
It isn't covered as much but white people are more likely to get shot than blacks.
Even if BLM presented an accurate picture it would not be a true rce war.
Regardless of who knew what the war to exterminate the indians is what a true race war means.
If those claiming a race war could show me where the army walks into a black neighborhood lines people up against a wall and shoots them we would have a race war We don't.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 9:37:01 PM

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So it's only a race war if we line up a bunch of them and shoot the lot of them all at once.
If we shoot them one at a time, at higher percentage than others, then it's not a race war.

Nobody but you said anything about a 'race war' in the first place, BTW.

Whatever you're talking about is not what I've heard anywhere else, no surprise in that.

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It isn't covered as much but white people are more likely to get shot than blacks.

Yeah, right.

Book or link reference is welcome, but you know you can't.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 9:56:18 PM

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So it's only a race war if we line up a bunch of them and shoot the lot of them all at once.
If we shoot them one at a time, at higher percentage than others, then it's not a race war.

Nobody but you said anything about a 'race war' in the first place, BTW.

Whatever you're talking about is not what I've heard anywhere else, no surprise in that.

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It isn't covered as much but white people are more likely to get shot than blacks.

Yeah, right.

Book or link reference is welcome, but you know you can't.

Vicent was making that claim in the thread about the 2nd mistrial for the cop .so while I am not surprised you didnt see it, it happened.
As for whites being more likely to get shot just look up the stats it is real clear.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 6/30/2017 10:30:36 PM

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I looked at all that sort of thing a long time ago. All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

WTF are you on about with black people anyway?

300+ years of free labor, and now all you want to do is shoot them, or give police free reign to shoot them.

What a fucking asshole.

Let's see you back to Europe and see where they put you. Believe it or not, Europe is less accepting of mental derelicts like yourself.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 7/1/2017 1:49:28 AM

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I looked at all that sort of thing a long time ago. All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

WTF are you on about with black people anyway?

300+ years of free labor, and now all you want to do is shoot them, or give police free reign to shoot them.

What a fucking asshole.

Let's see you back to Europe and see where they put you. Believe it or not, Europe is less accepting of mental derelicts like yourself.

Wrong as usuall.
I don't want black people shot any more than anyone else.
If you have done all of that study you know that blacks murder over half again as many people as whites do , not relative to their share of the population but in raw numbers, it stands to reason that as many or more black people would be shot by the police. That is not the case, in fack half again as many white people are shot as black.What I want is that nobody gets shot.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 7/1/2017 2:03:06 AM

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I looked at all that sort of thing a long time ago. All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

WTF are you on about with black people anyway?

300+ years of free labor, and now all you want to do is shoot them, or give police free reign to shoot them.

What a fucking asshole.

Let's see you back to Europe and see where they put you. Believe it or not, Europe is less accepting of mental derelicts like yourself.

This is where the race war conversation started. So you are clearly wrong again.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 7/1/2017 3:46:04 AM

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I looked at all that sort of thing a long time ago. All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

WTF are you on about with black people anyway?

300+ years of free labor, and now all you want to do is shoot them, or give police free reign to shoot them.

What a fucking asshole.

Let's see you back to Europe and see where they put you. Believe it or not, Europe is less accepting of mental derelicts like yourself.

Wrong as usuall.
I don't want black people shot any more than anyone else.
If you have done all of that study you know that blacks murder over half again as many people as whites do , not relative to their share of the population but in raw numbers, it stands to reason that as many or more black people would be shot by the police. That is not the case, in fack half again as many white people are shot as black.What I want is that nobody gets shot.

and what continually amazes me too is how the comrades speak in these incredibly inaccurate ways attributing the worst of motives to people with whom they disagree.

yeah--"all you want to do is shoot them" and allow "police free reign to shoot them" too!

the "300+ years of free labor's" a whopper too

and he has the temerity to talk about "mental derelicts" and someone being a "fucking asshole."

do they teach irony to liberals??

and edwird, if this...:

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All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

is indeed "all you can say", then youre missing the necessary part of the equation where blacks commit crime at a higher percentage of their population.

see the writing above.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 7/1/2017 6:41:38 AM

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and what continually amazes me too is how the comrades speak in these incredibly inaccurate ways attributing the worst of motives to people with whom they disagree.

do they teach irony to liberals??

Clearly, no one taught it to you.

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 7/1/2017 6:46:15 AM

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I looked at all that sort of thing a long time ago. All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

WTF are you on about with black people anyway?

300+ years of free labor, and now all you want to do is shoot them, or give police free reign to shoot them.

What a fucking asshole.

Let's see you back to Europe and see where they put you. Believe it or not, Europe is less accepting of mental derelicts like yourself.

Wrong as usuall.
I don't want black people shot any more than anyone else.
If you have done all of that study you know that blacks murder over half again as many people as whites do , not relative to their share of the population but in raw numbers, it stands to reason that as many or more black people would be shot by the police. That is not the case, in fack half again as many white people are shot as black.What I want is that nobody gets shot.

and what continually amazes me too is how the comrades speak in these incredibly inaccurate ways attributing the worst of motives to people with whom they disagree.

yeah--"all you want to do is shoot them" and allow "police free reign to shoot them" too!

the "300+ years of free labor's" a whopper too

and he has the temerity to talk about "mental derelicts" and someone being a "fucking asshole."

do they teach irony to liberals??

and edwird, if this...:

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All I can say is that as percentage of incarceration vs. percentage of population, black folk are not in the best of times.

is indeed "all you can say", then youre missing the necessary part of the equation where blacks commit crime at a higher percentage of their population.

see the writing above.

Hilarious, and true

Great post

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RE: I was wrong, we have had a race war. - 7/1/2017 12:11:17 PM

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No a race war envolves an attempt to exteminate the victim population only the attempted extermination of the indian qualifies in our history.

You do not seem to understand the difference between race ware and genocide.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

No, I am not making up shit, I have been victimised by the bigotry against military people.

Yes we have heard your 'perpetual victim' story so many times we have it memorized.

I have read accounts of the bias against the military.

Yet somehow you are unable to cite any of them...why is that? were they written in invisible ink?

The fact that I have not found support online yet doesn't prove that I am making up shit.

Shall we hold our breath?

I will find someplace on line that admits bias against the military.

Dumb don has shown a fair amount of bias against the military.

You also tried to claim I was making up shit several times before and you have been proven wrong every time.

No one but you has noticed that.

No matter what else you want to claim the black soldiers were very happy to ingage in a genocidal war against the indian. Try as you might you csn't mske them the good guys in this.

You are lying again, as usual, or you could cite some validation for this "white trash" lie.

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