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Nnanji -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 7:43:29 AM)


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For Bosco, "panicking" = "telling the fact."

Oh good, then you'll have links to those facts.


Yep.


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After the Bush years overt drive for one party rule, then the immediate opposition to anything Obama, it's hard to take any right wing talk of freedom or democracy seriously. It's a power grab at any cost . . . even if that means fronting it with Trump.


https://www.google.com/search?q=bush+one+party+rule&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

LMAO...even from the Huff Post.

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President Bush’s radical presidency is the underlying number one issue in the mid-term elections campaign. His drive to concentrate unaccountable and unchecked power in the executive has depended on one-party Republican control of the Congress. Without a Republican Congress that does the White House bidding, the Bush agenda would never have been enacted and be supported, despite its consequences. The interlocking of the radical president and Congress has frozen the natural checks and balances in the system, as I document in my new book “How Bush Rules: Chronicles of a Radical Regime.”


Bush radical and nary a word said about ol' I have my pen and I have my phone. It is hilarious to watch the revision to history.




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 7:49:15 AM)

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After the Bush years overt drive for one party rule, then the immediate opposition to anything Obama, it's hard to take any right wing talk of freedom or democracy seriously. It's a power grab at any cost . . . even if that means fronting it with Trump.


Alt left trash considers opposing political victories to be literally criminal offenses

OF COURSE we try to win as many seats as possible - just like they do

What utter moronosity




WhoreMods -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 8:05:14 AM)

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Alt left trash considers opposing political victories to be literally criminal offenses

Was Dubya alt left trash, then? I suppose he was rather to the left of el presidente during his time in office...




BoscoX -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 8:57:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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Alt left trash considers opposing political victories to be literally criminal offenses

Was Dubya alt left trash, then? I suppose he was rather to the left of el presidente during his time in office...


How bad does your life hurt, being that stupid... [:D]

We're talking political victories, not the pursuit of the 9/11 terrorists

The words" political victories" should have been your first clue




Aibo -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 9:19:54 AM)

Melting might be the word after seeing Ivanka sitting together with world leaders at the G20.
What was the bright idea behind that, Trump trying to create a North Korean nepotistic dynasty already? [sm=marionette.gif]

We dont know yet, but this was an embarrasment to professionals and politicians, as well as to the USA as a whole. [:'(]

So what's next? Ivanka get the contract to supply US Army uniforms? Will Eric become the chief of the environment office and go trophy hunting mountain lions with an machine gun? And will Trump get a seat in the situation room with the National Security Advisors? Only time will tell. [8|]




Nnanji -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 9:22:48 AM)


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Melting might be the word after seeing Ivanka sitting together with world leaders at the G20.
What was the bright idea behind that, Trump trying to create a North Korean nepotistic dynasty already? [sm=marionette.gif]

We dont know yet, but this was an embarrasment to professionals and politicians, as well as to the USA as a whole. [:'(]

So what's next? Ivanka get the contract to supply US Army uniforms? Will Eric become the chief of the environment office and go trophy hunting mountain lions with an machine gun? And will Trump get a seat in the situation room with the National Security Advisors? Only time will tell. [8|]

That's funny. But, the sad part is that liberals will probably soon claim all of this is happening in real life. It's a fantasy world out there on the alt-left.




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 12:31:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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After the Bush years overt drive for one party rule, then the immediate opposition to anything Obama, it's hard to take any right wing talk of freedom or democracy seriously. It's a power grab at any cost . . . even if that means fronting it with Trump.


Alt left trash considers opposing political victories to be literally criminal offenses

OF COURSE we try to win as many seats as possible - just like they do

What utter moronosity

This may be a record-breaker for points sailing over a poster's head.

First, the silliness of confusing figuratively and literally.

But second, first getting the point that yep, it's all about winning at all costs, even if that means Trump, but then arguing against the point, inherently missing the point even after initially flirting with catching it (presumably in the rush to find something to argue), and posting as counter-argument a post that re-asserts the point which he intends to show separates him from liberal politics.

It's a stunning display of confusion, arrogantly delivered.

Honestly, we should sell tickets, post these as Internet memes, something -- we're leaving money on the table.




WhoreMods -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 12:42:41 PM)


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What was the bright idea behind that, Trump trying to create a North Korean nepotistic dynasty already?

Somebody's told him that Kanye's thinking of standing in 2020 and so he thinks he has to treat global realpolitik like a reality show and stick his bitches in front of the camera at every opportunity from now on.




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 6:40:26 PM)


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Melting might be the word after seeing Ivanka sitting together with world leaders at the G20.
What was the bright idea behind that, Trump trying to create a North Korean nepotistic dynasty already? [sm=marionette.gif]

We dont know yet, but this was an embarrasment to professionals and politicians, as well as to the USA as a whole. [:'(]

So what's next? Ivanka get the contract to supply US Army uniforms? Will Eric become the chief of the environment office and go trophy hunting mountain lions with an machine gun? And will Trump get a seat in the situation room with the National Security Advisors? Only time will tell. [8|]

That's funny. But, the sad part is that liberals will probably soon claim all of this is happening in real life. It's a fantasy world out there on the alt-left.

What's not happening in real life? The G20? Ivanka taking her father's seat? Nepotism?





Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 6:43:28 PM)

Donald Trump has returned to America and the craziness begins anew. Here is today's dose of surrealism (so far).

Donald Trump (via Twitter)--"I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I've already given my opinion....."

WH Chief of Staff Reince Priebus (on Fox)-- "The president absolutely did not believe the denial of President Putin.”

Corey Lewandowski (on Fox)--"The President took the issue directly to Vladimir Putin, questioned him whether they were involved in meddling in the elections in any way, shape or form...pressed him very tough if Russia had anything to do with the outcome of the election. And from what Vladimir Putin has said, the answer is no. So I don't know what else the mainstream media can talk about, other than the fact that there was no collusion, there was no coordination. Now the President has taken the issue directly to the president of Russia and raised it. So now I think the issue is officially dead."

Preet Bharara-Former U.S. Attorney who was fired by Trump (via Twitter)--"When pursuing a corrupt politician, mobster or murderer on strong FBI evidence, if he "vehemently denied it," we just dropped it usually."

Meanwhile, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) unloaded on Trump saying the idea of working with Putin on cybersecurity is "pretty close to the dumbest idea I've ever heard." Via The Hill.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341174-graham-unloads-on-trump-blind-spot-on-russia-undermining-his-entire#.WWJuJg4xJTg.twitter




Nnanji -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 7:25:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Aibo

Melting might be the word after seeing Ivanka sitting together with world leaders at the G20.
What was the bright idea behind that, Trump trying to create a North Korean nepotistic dynasty already? [sm=marionette.gif]

We dont know yet, but this was an embarrasment to professionals and politicians, as well as to the USA as a whole. [:'(]

So what's next? Ivanka get the contract to supply US Army uniforms? Will Eric become the chief of the environment office and go trophy hunting mountain lions with an machine gun? And will Trump get a seat in the situation room with the National Security Advisors? Only time will tell. [8|]

That's funny. But, the sad part is that liberals will probably soon claim all of this is happening in real life. It's a fantasy world out there on the alt-left.

What's not happening in real life? The G20? Ivanka taking her father's seat? Nepotism?



Your words are the fantasy.

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After the Bush years overt drive for one party rule, then the immediate opposition to anything Obama, it's hard to take any right wing talk of freedom or democracy seriously. It's a power grab at any cost . . . even if that means fronting it with Trump.




Nnanji -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/9/2017 7:29:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Donald Trump has returned to America and the craziness begins anew. Here is today's dose of surrealism (so far).

Donald Trump (via Twitter)--"I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I've already given my opinion....."

WH Chief of Staff Reince Priebus (on Fox)-- "The president absolutely did not believe the denial of President Putin.”

Corey Lewandowski (on Fox)--"The President took the issue directly to Vladimir Putin, questioned him whether they were involved in meddling in the elections in any way, shape or form...pressed him very tough if Russia had anything to do with the outcome of the election. And from what Vladimir Putin has said, the answer is no. So I don't know what else the mainstream media can talk about, other than the fact that there was no collusion, there was no coordination. Now the President has taken the issue directly to the president of Russia and raised it. So now I think the issue is officially dead."

Preet Bharara-Former U.S. Attorney who was fired by Trump (via Twitter)--"When pursuing a corrupt politician, mobster or murderer on strong FBI evidence, if he "vehemently denied it," we just dropped it usually."

Meanwhile, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) unloaded on Trump saying the idea of working with Putin on cybersecurity is "pretty close to the dumbest idea I've ever heard." Via The Hill.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/341174-graham-unloads-on-trump-blind-spot-on-russia-undermining-his-entire#.WWJuJg4xJTg.twitter

No, the craziness was assuming North Korea and Iran won't continue to build nucs. The craziness was assuming the "JV" want going to amount to much. The craziness is assuming that if we don't say,"Islamic extremism" they'll be nice to us. FFS.




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/10/2017 5:05:19 AM)

Well Bush assured them that the only thing the US takes seriously is nuclear weapons. Of course they're going to build them.

Without these, it's "pre-emptive invasion," sooner or later.

Bush taught them they must have nukes to survive.




tweakabelle -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/10/2017 5:53:01 AM)

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Honestly, we should sell tickets, post these as Internet memes, something -- we're leaving money on the table.

Yes. You are right. No one would believe the sheer silliness of some of the claims in defence of the orange disaster emanating from our looney Right posters if those claims were presented as fiction. People would react: No one can possibly be that stupid and still be able to string a few words together to form a post!

There was an old UK TV series called "Till Death Us Do Part" ( I believe the US version was called 'All in the Family' or something like that). Bosco would be perfect as the crotchety racist old bigot, thishereboi as his poor long suffering wife, tamaka as their confused not terribly bright daughter and Nnanji and Bounty as the equally bigoted neighbours. Perhaps it's time for a 21st century sequel ....




WhoreMods -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/10/2017 5:57:32 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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Honestly, we should sell tickets, post these as Internet memes, something -- we're leaving money on the table.

Yes. You are right. No one would believe the sheer silliness of some of the claims in defence of the orange disaster emanating from our looney Right posters if those claims were presented as fiction. People would react: No one can possibly be that stupid and still be able to string a few words together to form a post!

There was an old UK TV series called "Till Death Us Do Part" ( I believe the US version was called 'All in the Family' or something like that). Bosco would be perfect as the crotchety racist old bigot, thishereboi as his poor long suffering wife, tamaka as their confused not terribly bright daughter and Nnanji and Bounty as the equally bigoted neighbours. Perhaps it's time for a 21st century sequel ....

I think they have done a remake of that as a docudrama with rednecks called Duck Dynasty.
[;)]




Nnanji -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/10/2017 6:36:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Honestly, we should sell tickets, post these as Internet memes, something -- we're leaving money on the table.

Yes. You are right. No one would believe the sheer silliness of some of the claims in defence of the orange disaster emanating from our looney Right posters if those claims were presented as fiction. People would react: No one can possibly be that stupid and still be able to string a few words together to form a post!

There was an old UK TV series called "Till Death Us Do Part" ( I believe the US version was called 'All in the Family' or something like that). Bosco would be perfect as the crotchety racist old bigot, thishereboi as his poor long suffering wife, tamaka as their confused not terribly bright daughter and Nnanji and Bounty as the equally bigoted neighbours. Perhaps it's time for a 21st century sequel ....

Hush child. The adults are talking.




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/10/2017 6:46:40 AM)

Where?




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/10/2017 1:27:53 PM)


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, nutsuckers are still selling us out and turning us into a third world country.


Yeah, bingo.

It's the party platform.

The party was trying to be sneaky about it and get our country to Pinochet-land just a little at a time.

But then this political blunderbuss comes along and everybody's ducking for cover, even a goodly number of the faithful.

And even after the blunderbuss won, he didn't know what to do.




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/11/2017 4:33:08 AM)

‘Time to Move Forward’ on Russia, Trump Says, as Criticism Intensifies

“You are hurting your ability to govern this nation by forgiving and forgetting and empowering,” Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said of Mr. Trump, calling his meeting with Mr. Putin “disastrous.”

“The more he talks about this in terms of not being sure, the more he throws our intelligence communities under the bus, the more he’s willing to forgive and forget Putin, the more suspicion,” Mr. Graham added in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “And I think it’s going to dog his presidency until he breaks this cycle.”

As if to underscore the point, the White House confronted reports later Sunday that Donald Trump Jr., Mr. Trump’s eldest son, was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer at Trump Tower during the campaign last year. The accounts of the meeting, by three White House advisers briefed on it and two others with knowledge of it, represent the first public indication that at least some people in Mr. Trump’s campaign were willing to accept Russian help.

Reince Priebus, the White House chief of staff, had played down that meeting during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” calling it a “nothing meeting,” and a “big nothing burger.”

President Trump’s account of his lengthy and closely scrutinized closed-door meeting with Mr. Putin on the sidelines of the Group of 20 summit meeting came in a series of Twitter posts the morning after he had returned from the gathering in Hamburg, Germany. They appeared to be an attempt to move beyond the controversy after Moscow characterized the election discussion as a meeting of minds rather than a showdown between the American president and his Russian counterpart.

Administration officials knew that Mr. Trump’s much-anticipated meeting with Mr. Putin was risky and in some ways a no-win situation. The tangle of investigations into his campaign’s possible dealings with Russia raised the stakes and created a damaging backdrop for Mr. Trump, while Mr. Putin’s well-earned reputation for outfoxing and manipulating adversaries suggested that he would stage manage the meeting for maximum advantage, making himself appear to have the upper hand.

On Sunday, it appeared that Mr. Putin had to some degree succeeded in doing just that, after Mr. Trump’s refusal to answer questions about the encounter essentially ceded the narrative to Mr. Putin.

Mr. Trump broke with tradition and declined to hold a news conference at the end of the G-20 summit meeting, instead sending three top officials to brief a small group of reporters on Air Force One as he was returning on Saturday to Washington. None of them would address the claims of Mr. Putin and Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, that Mr. Trump had seemed satisfied with Mr. Putin’s denial of involvement in the hacking.

Mr. Trump’s tweets on Sunday did little to dispel the notion that he had backed down on the election meddling issue. He characterized his position as an “opinion” and asserted that he was prepared to team with Moscow — which United States intelligence agencies say carried out a large-scale effort to interfere with American democracy last year, and will try to again — on forming an “impenetrable Cyber Security unit” to thwart future breaches.

“I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election,” Mr. Trump said in one post. “He vehemently denied it. I’ve already given my opinion.”

Mr. Trump’s highlighting of the potential cybersecurity initiative with Moscow — which he backed away from hours later in a tweet that said it would never happen — prompted derision from Republicans and Democrats who said Russia was the last country the United States should trust on such matters.

“I am sure that Vladimir Putin could be of enormous assistance in that effort, since he’s doing the hacking,” Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California and the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, called the idea “dangerously naïve.”

“I don’t think we can expect the Russians to be any kind of a credible partner in some cybersecurity unit,” he said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “If that’s our best election defense, we might as well just mail our ballot boxes to Moscow.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/09/us/politics/time-to-move-forward-trump-says-after-putin-denies-election-hacking.html




Musicmystery -> RE: President Trump, Melting Under Criticism (7/11/2017 8:25:47 AM)

Trump's approval (actually disapproval, since that's the majority) continues to be worse than every past president (going back to Eisenhower):

[image]https://i.imgur.com/IP1VRY1.png[/image]
[image]https://i.imgur.com/cddShHH.png[/image]
[image]https://i.imgur.com/egIPolH.png[/image]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx




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