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ORIGINAL: DanteMalo Strange.While I would gladly wipe out every muslim extremist in return for a latte', I see some serious problems here. 1: Islam is exactly where christianity was 500 years ago. and it was founded roughly 500 years after the foundation of christianity. Islam, is it in it's savage state, (religious cultures mature. look at "us") and that same savagery can be found in the inquisition. Excellent point. Christianity pretty much destroyed anyone who got in it's way, and took over most of the developed world, and now that our country, and much of our culture was founded on that bloodshed, I see not a single christian admitting this historical fact. that's because now that "we" (I say "we" because like it or not, most here are christian, by default, in their thinking, and culture) have the world o a leash, we don't want to admit the killing and horrible violence that was a part of the foundation of the united states power base. but hey, we're BETTER, right? As christianity aged it became more mellower. with the exception of the Christian fundamentalists who are really pushing this war, (100 innocent iraqis killed per day) and are doing so for religious reasons. many have died on behalf of the united state's current religious convictions. hm... killing for a religious idea.... where have I heard that recently? If 100 Iraqis are dying each day, it's their own people killing 99% of them. 2: those "goat ropers" as you call them (and you make no distiniction between and Iranian, and any other Arab) are responsible for much of your language, some of your technology, and some of those "goat ropers" are now serving in the U.S. military, proctecting your fat ass here at home while you use that freedom to say stupid things. Hey, it's a free country, right? 3: for someone in our BDSM community to say something so stupid makes me ashamed. however, to the initial poster I must say something: cultures trying to pass off such a thing as a "religious law", and cultures who participate in such things for very long usually are visited by a catastrophic event. call it fate, god, or what have you. christianity has it's own catastrophies. Plague, among other things are visited upon those who are cruel. As to the completely obvious savagery of the people in the heavily wahabist, and Shite, areas near Iran and iraq, look at the condition they are in now. like early christians ( and some christians now) they are fucked. screwed. no money, no work, no decent hospitals, I mean really and truly fucked. they are already paying for their beliefs, and I think it will continue. It was the direct involvement of the US government, in Installing the Shah, and his secret police the Savak, who freely kidnapped young girls off the streets, and often killed people by the hundreds, that led to the rise of the Ayatollahs in the first place. It got the Ayatollahs rolling, but America certainly isn't responsible for the origins of Islamic extremism. Just pointing that out. Do I make excuses for them? ( when I say "them" unlike you, I mean those who practice ritualistic killing and violence in the name of "god") hell no. I hope they all die real soon. Do I face the reality of our complicity in it? I have to. to do otherwise is to be ignorant of out own part in this, and that, is exactly what makes this kind of treament of women so horrific. ignorance. Let's try to do better.
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