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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Reminds me of a school days joke: He has the mind of a genius. Someday maybe he'll have it installed.

Fully operational, fully remote. If you had 1/2 that intelligence you would have caught the whores lie.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

what you're claiming she said isn't what she said.

Sure whore you dope, 'prove it'. (from my posted text)


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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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Yep its true! Seems atheists are missing out on one of lifes greatest treasures.

https://books.google.com/books?id=U1BDCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=Andrew+Newberg+is+a+neuroscientist+at+Thomas+Jefferson+University+whose+field+of+study+is+neurotheology+religion&source=bl&ots=LLRQh8YxWz&sig=hyOgsrVebkWw8YzOpFNe-CkSkg0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtw7DP4JHVAhVK7yYKHSpACAUQ6AEIUjAI#v=onepage&q=Andrew%20Newberg&f=false

Hello, RO.

I am a little bit confused by some of the things you presented here and I hope you will be able to unravel my concerns.

When I clicked on the link above I was taken to a page on Google Books and presented with a preview of a book called The Faith Link written by Max Fleury MD. I don't understand what this has to do with Andrew Newberg, the researcher at the heart of your thread, although I do see Newberg's name in the link.

Please explain the connection between Newberg and Dr. Fleury.


I searched Newberg's biography and he has certainly been active in fMRI studies. He seems to have all the credentials of a neuroscientist in good standing. He has written six books according to the Wiki biography. I read that Newberg described the possible neurophysiological mechanisms associated with religious and spiritual experiences.[3] His initial research included the use of functional brain imaging to study Buddhist meditators[4] and Franciscan nuns in prayer.[5] This work was eventually published in three books, The Mystical Mind, Why God Won’t Go Away, and Why We Believe What We Believe.

SKIP

In the last listed book Why We Believe What We Believe, co-authored with Mark Robert Waldman (Executive MBA Faculty, Loyola Marymount University) describes the relationship between the brain and beliefs and also describes brain imaging studies of an atheist and individuals speaking in tongues (or glossolalia).

"of an atheist" suggests to me only one atheist.

Please explain how studies with only one atheist justifies your gloating OP headline.

You also showed us this scan of the brain before and after(?) meditation and informed us it demonstrated that the brain religious folk used more of their brain than do atheists.



Honestly, I don't see a major difference between the two images. Furthermore, these images only show the cerebral cortices apparently. Are the Limbic System, thalamus, cerebellum, and amygdala also demonstrated there?

Please explain how these images support your conclusion that more of the brain is used in meditation.

Also from the Wiki article there is some criticism of Newberg's conclusions (and yours I think)

Newberg’s research has been criticized from two main perspectives.[non sequitur] From the religious perspective, concerns have been raised that the study of practices such as meditation does not necessarily extrapolate to the broader array of religious and spiritual phenomena.[3] However, Newberg tends to agree with this concern and has argued that future studies are needed to elucidate the more complex elements of religious and spiritual phenomena. Newberg has maintained that science and brain imaging studies are only tools to evaluate the brain during such experiences but do not necessarily negate such experiences. Newberg has argued that the integration of science and religion is critical for a better understanding of how human beings think and behave in a global context.

How do these criticisms change your OP proposition?

Thanks for helping me understand this complicated issue.

His noteothry credentials

Lets startwith this, do you know what you are looking at?



Want to stick with you see no difference?

http://www.mindspect.com/spec%20scan.html

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the graphics I provided are done by phd's

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Sure whore you dope, 'prove it'. (from my posted text)

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the graphics I provided are done by phd's

So you say.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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the graphics I provided are done by phd's

So you say.

And if it were as simple as that, PhDs would never disagree, instead of disagreeing constantly.