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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 3:28:43 PM   
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/05/world/asia/iran-afghanistan-taliban.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=nytmm_FadingSlideShow_item&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Haliburton helping Iran set up their nuclear plant in Arak was the first gift.
Iraq was the second gift.
Now Afghanistan.
(Not to mention increased support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and elsewhere)

An excerpt...

Over the past decade and a half, the United States has taken out Iran’s chief enemies on two of its borders, the Taliban government in Afghanistan and Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Iran has used that to its advantage, working quietly and relentlessly to spread its influence.

In Iraq, it has exploited a chaotic civil war and the American withdrawal to create a virtual satellite state. In Afghanistan, Iran aims to make sure that foreign forces leave eventually, and that any government that prevails will at least not threaten its interests, and at best be friendly or aligned with them.

The sentence in bold is EXACTLY as I predicted the day we invaded.


This article was stunning, thanks for sharing, I am sorry I read it.
People in the ME have been fighting for thousands of years non-stop, and now we are involved.
All they do is live and fight.
We probably don't know the half of it.
wow

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 3:32:56 PM   
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He fucked the whole place up. Gave it to ISIS on a silver platter


Revisionist nonsense. Bush gave it to ISIS on a silver platter. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (leader of ISIS) (his real name is Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim al-Badri) spent time in detention at Abu Ghraib (gee remember that fun place?) and Camp Bucca and released by the Bush administration as a "low-level" prisoner.

There was never any competent effort to set up any representative government there. No one in the Bush administration had any idea what the difference between a Sunni or Shia was. (The early interviews of Condaleeza Rice are hilarious). The goal was to secure the oil fields.

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Two years after Obama took control of Iraq, everything was going smoothly:

Biden in 2010: Iraq Will Be 'One of the Greatest Achievements' of This Administration




If, by the fact, that U.S. Troops are not being blown up with IED's any more, and we aren't spending billions of dollars there, then Biden is right. It is a great achievement and reversal of of the stupidity of Biden's previous administration. Even though theri has been improved Sunni representation in the government. Basically Iraq has become a puppet state of Iran (as I predicted). ISIS has sped that process up quite a bit, as Shia militias have come in.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 3:37:39 PM   
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How can people who protested against the invasion/Iraq War, and we had some big protests here in D.C. support Hillary Clinton?

It is mind boggling.


Then they put their hands in their pockets and looked the other way when Obama took over the bombing


Even you can't put the Iraq invasion on President Obama, he inherited the war.
Once you are involved in something like this, you can't just "walk away".
We will be involved in the Middle East, probably forever.

Please


Obama didn't just bomb Iraq, his Arab Spring nightmare pushed for violent regime change across the ME with no plans for the power vacuums which followed

His idiocy gave rise to ISIS, and the genocide and terror that followed

Who doesn't remember his Secretary of State famously laughing as she said of Gaddafi, "We came, we saw, he died."


Why do you type this stuff? None of this is factual (except the Hillary video?)...

You have NO idea what you are talking about. You don't even understand the history of the region. Nor the sequence of events that occurred.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 3:42:14 PM   
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What would a rabid ideologue like you know about facts

All you know is whatever propaganda is spoon fed to you by your masters at the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN and co

There was no ISIS before Obama, it is his baby. All his, and his alone - and he stood by and did as little as he could as they did their thing

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 3:48:13 PM   
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What would a rabid ideologue like you know about facts

All you know is whatever propaganda is spoon fed to you by your masters at the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN and co

There was no ISIS before Obama, it is his baby. All his, and his alone - and he stood by and did as little as he could as they did their thing


See post #22 for facts.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 4:29:49 PM   
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You like New York Times propaganda?

Sometimes in retrospect I am sure they really wish they could take back some of the 'help' they give Democrats:

NY Times: Obama Jump-Started Arab Spring

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 4:35:25 PM   
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TRUMP'S WAR ON ISIS 'DRAMATICALLY ACCELERATED' COALITION GAINS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA

Apparently, the TRUMP golf cart is equipped with pens and phones

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:01:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
He fucked the whole place up. Gave it to ISIS on a silver platter


Revisionist nonsense. Bush gave it to ISIS on a silver platter. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (leader of ISIS) (his real name is Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim al-Badri) spent time in detention at Abu Ghraib (gee remember that fun place?) and Camp Bucca and released by the Bush administration as a "low-level" prisoner.

There was never any competent effort to set up any representative government there. No one in the Bush administration had any idea what the difference between a Sunni or Shia was. (The early interviews of Condaleeza Rice are hilarious). The goal was to secure the oil fields.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Two years after Obama took control of Iraq, everything was going smoothly:

Biden in 2010: Iraq Will Be 'One of the Greatest Achievements' of This Administration




If, by the fact, that U.S. Troops are not being blown up with IED's any more, and we aren't spending billions of dollars there, then Biden is right. It is a great achievement and reversal of of the stupidity of Biden's previous administration. Even though theri has been improved Sunni representation in the government. Basically Iraq has become a puppet state of Iran (as I predicted). ISIS has sped that process up quite a bit, as Shia militias have come in.



Two years after Obama took control of Iraq, everything was going smoothly:

Biden in 2010: Iraq Will Be 'One of the Greatest Achievements' of This Administration



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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:18:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
He fucked the whole place up. Gave it to ISIS on a silver platter


Revisionist nonsense. Bush gave it to ISIS on a silver platter. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (leader of ISIS) (his real name is Ibrahim Awad Ibrahim al-Badri) spent time in detention at Abu Ghraib (gee remember that fun place?) and Camp Bucca and released by the Bush administration as a "low-level" prisoner.

There was never any competent effort to set up any representative government there. No one in the Bush administration had any idea what the difference between a Sunni or Shia was. (The early interviews of Condaleeza Rice are hilarious). The goal was to secure the oil fields.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Two years after Obama took control of Iraq, everything was going smoothly:

Biden in 2010: Iraq Will Be 'One of the Greatest Achievements' of This Administration




If, by the fact, that U.S. Troops are not being blown up with IED's any more, and we aren't spending billions of dollars there, then Biden is right. It is a great achievement and reversal of of the stupidity of Biden's previous administration. Even though theri has been improved Sunni representation in the government. Basically Iraq has become a puppet state of Iran (as I predicted). ISIS has sped that process up quite a bit, as Shia militias have come in.



Two years after Obama took control of Iraq, everything was going smoothly:

Biden in 2010: Iraq Will Be 'One of the Greatest Achievements' of This Administration





Why are you reposting this?

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:20:47 PM   
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TRUMP'S WAR ON ISIS 'DRAMATICALLY ACCELERATED' COALITION GAINS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA

Apparently, the TRUMP golf cart is equipped with pens and phones



Yes Trump's continuation of Obama's ISIS strategy is working.

His Russian masters are very pleased.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:31:13 PM   
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Why are you reposting this?


Because ISIS was started by Obama himself and there are no world events that do not transpire because of the US.

The Bush war wasn't the catalyst because everyone knows that war makes countries great.
The catalyst was liberal values.

Bosco is a genius of epic proportions.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:36:03 PM   
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Yes Trump's continuation of Obama's ISIS strategy is working.


The headlines scream that Obamas Jihadi friends are losing their asses due to the new president actually fighting them rather than just pretending, as Obama did


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His Russian masters are very pleased.


Hillary sold them our uranium

Obama begged them for patience until after the election, then he could service them however they pleased

President Trump is hardening our military against them and pulling their oil prices out from under them

Beside fighting ISIS you cannot name one single thing that President Trump has done, to please your and Obamas and Hillarys masters

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:45:59 PM   
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Hillary sold them our uranium


Bullshit.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

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Obama begged them for patience until after the election, then he could service them however they pleased


Lies.
He was brushing the guy off.

Actions speak louder than words, shit for brains.

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President Trump is hardening our military against them and pulling their oil prices out from under them


'Against them'.
LOL.5
Trump doesn't know how to manipulate oil prices. He is a fucking moron. He only knows how to say whatever pops into his head and rile up his drooling fans.

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Beside fighting ISIS you cannot name one single thing that President Trump has done, to please your and Obamas and Hillarys masters


He hasn't done anything because he knows that everyone is watching him like a hawk and leaks are everywhere.
If he did anything, he would be trounced in the press and condemned by his party.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 5:54:54 PM   
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The headlines scream that Obamas Jihadi friends are losing their asses due to the new president actually fighting them rather than just pretending, as Obama did



They scream nothing of the sort. You completely made that up.

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Hillary sold them our uranium

Obama begged them for patience until after the election, then he could service them however they pleased

President Trump is hardening our military against them and pulling their oil prices out from under them



Bullshit, bullshit, and more bullshit. You have to get out of this right-wing echo chamber, and read some real news.

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Beside fighting ISIS you cannot name one single thing that President Trump has done, to please your and Obamas and Hillarys masters


But I CAN name a several things that he has done to please his OWN masters:

1. Weaken the GOP party platform to exclude mention of Ukraine
2. Whine about Congress restricting him from weakening sanctions on Russia
3. Deny or cast doubt on the intelligence community's findings on Russian hacking
4. Cede all U.S. leadership in the Middle East to Iran and Russia


I can think of half a dozen more...

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 6:03:27 PM   
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They scream nothing of the sort. You completely made that up.




TRUMP'S WAR ON ISIS 'DRAMATICALLY ACCELERATED' COALITION GAINS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA

You need to make up your mind about our leadership in the ME, too



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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 6:07:04 PM   
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They scream nothing of the sort. You completely made that up.




TRUMP'S WAR ON ISIS 'DRAMATICALLY ACCELERATED' COALITION GAINS IN IRAQ AND SYRIA

You need to make up your mind about our leadership in the ME, too





Please quote from this article:

1. The text that says Obama was "just pretending"
2. The text that says Trump is doing anything against ISIS that Obama did not


Sorry. You are just full of shit.


<added a few minutes later>
I forgot. You were talking Headlines. Not even the text of the article.

Please quote for me those from that headline!


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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 8:28:01 PM   
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Remember Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink. They went away when Obama got elected. The war didn't matter any more to them.

But she did lie and of course...it cost her.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 8:36:22 PM   
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Remember Cindy Sheehan and Code Pink. They went away when Obama got elected. The war didn't matter any more to them.

But she did lie and of course...it cost her.



Who lied? What did she lie about? What did it cost her?

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/5/2017 8:36:46 PM   
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How can people who protested against the invasion/Iraq War, and we had some big protests here in D.C. support Hillary Clinton?

It is mind boggling.


Then they put their hands in their pockets and looked the other way when Obama took over the bombing


Even you can't put the Iraq invasion on President Obama, he inherited the war.
Once you are involved in something like this, you can't just "walk away".
We will be involved in the Middle East, probably forever.

Please


Obama didn't just bomb Iraq, his Arab Spring nightmare pushed for violent regime change across the ME with no plans for the power vacuums which followed

His idiocy gave rise to ISIS, and the genocide and terror that followed

Who doesn't remember his Secretary of State famously laughing as she said of Gaddafi, "We came, we saw, he died."

Once again, ISIS was created by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a man the CIA pointed out as a real problem in 2003 before invasion, that needed to be nipped in the bud. The Bush/Cheney duo said no.

After the invasion he declared himself the caliphate. ISIS was created under W.

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RE: Another gift from GWB to Iran - 8/6/2017 2:31:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are you sure? Because Comrade Draft Dodger Bone Spurs is always on twitter sobbing that Hillary sold Russia the Uranium. And as we all know the lying cunt nutter tells not one fib, ever, like Boscox the True(help me god my pantaloons just went up in smoke) To insinuate such outragousness makes you a fuking pussy liberal, or's it leftists, or alt-leftists, or something...A Hillaryist, ors it Handsome obmamist - Christ i better not give them new words.

(ah some twat was on here bugging me about pictures give this one 5-30 minutes till the server catches up)

Anyway, I thought the plan was to mine Afghanistan for the rare earth minerals.

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