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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

The family repercussions of a member actually fighting in a (sustained) war show in ways from the subtle to the overt. My mothers father fought in world war two. He didn't ever kill anyone when he returned home, but basically abused his family - not physically as far as I can tell, but none of them speak of him with affection.
I found out he was alive when I was 13, when he died. My mother had let us think he was dead. The way I hear it, he made himself and everyone around him miserable - but PTSD wasn't a thing then, and shell-shock was more dramatic than what was going on in his life.

I don't have much of a point, or a solution - except war is bad. Pretty simplistic, but as has been stated elsewhere , war changes people. Sometimes for the better, but often times for the worse.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

The family repercussions of a member actually fighting in a (sustained) war show in ways from the subtle to the overt. My mothers father fought in world war two. He didn't ever kill anyone when he returned home, but basically abused his family - not physically as far as I can tell, but none of them speak of him with affection.
I found out he was alive when I was 13, when he died. My mother had let us think he was dead. The way I hear it, he made himself and everyone around him miserable - but PTSD wasn't a thing then, and shell-shock was more dramatic than what was going on in his life.

I don't have much of a point, or a solution - except war is bad. Pretty simplistic, but as has been stated elsewhere , war changes people. Sometimes for the better, but often times for the worse.

And when people come back they don't get the help they should have military people like your father
are used up and abandoned.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

The family repercussions of a member actually fighting in a (sustained) war show in ways from the subtle to the overt. My mothers father fought in world war two. He didn't ever kill anyone when he returned home, but basically abused his family - not physically as far as I can tell, but none of them speak of him with affection.
I found out he was alive when I was 13, when he died. My mother had let us think he was dead. The way I hear it, he made himself and everyone around him miserable - but PTSD wasn't a thing then, and shell-shock was more dramatic than what was going on in his life.

I don't have much of a point, or a solution - except war is bad. Pretty simplistic, but as has been stated elsewhere , war changes people. Sometimes for the better, but often times for the worse.

And when people come back they don't get the help they should have military people like your father
are used up and abandoned.

Actually, I've a couple of friends that says the VA in this area is real good with PTSD. The problem is getting the service men to recognize they need the help.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Ok and you are right that many of the military people undergo levels of stress that most of us cannot imagine.
The average person doesn't comprehend that "dependents" are affected by things such as deployments
almost as much as the active duty people.

Being Army you would have a much better grasp than I would, I did my whole career in the Air Force, but
I spent my last 11 years at the same base.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

The family repercussions of a member actually fighting in a (sustained) war show in ways from the subtle to the overt. My mothers father fought in world war two. He didn't ever kill anyone when he returned home, but basically abused his family - not physically as far as I can tell, but none of them speak of him with affection.
I found out he was alive when I was 13, when he died. My mother had let us think he was dead. The way I hear it, he made himself and everyone around him miserable - but PTSD wasn't a thing then, and shell-shock was more dramatic than what was going on in his life.

I don't have much of a point, or a solution - except war is bad. Pretty simplistic, but as has been stated elsewhere , war changes people. Sometimes for the better, but often times for the worse.

And when people come back they don't get the help they should have military people like your father
are used up and abandoned.

Actually, I've a couple of friends that says the VA in this area is real good with PTSD. The problem is getting the service men to recognize they need the help.

That may be correct, my experience with the VA has not been good.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
Ok and you are right that many of the military people undergo levels of stress that most of us cannot imagine.
The average person doesn't comprehend that "dependents" are affected by things such as deployments
almost as much as the active duty people.

Being Army you would have a much better grasp than I would, I did my whole career in the Air Force, but
I spent my last 11 years at the same base.

Just as a matter of trivia, how in the heck did you luck into serving eleven years at the same base? I could be wrong, but I don't think I know anybody that was at the same duty station that long. (I think I remember where you told me that was before.)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub22

The family repercussions of a member actually fighting in a (sustained) war show in ways from the subtle to the overt. My mothers father fought in world war two. He didn't ever kill anyone when he returned home, but basically abused his family - not physically as far as I can tell, but none of them speak of him with affection.
I found out he was alive when I was 13, when he died. My mother had let us think he was dead. The way I hear it, he made himself and everyone around him miserable - but PTSD wasn't a thing then, and shell-shock was more dramatic than what was going on in his life.

I don't have much of a point, or a solution - except war is bad. Pretty simplistic, but as has been stated elsewhere , war changes people. Sometimes for the better, but often times for the worse.

And when people come back they don't get the help they should have military people like your father
are used up and abandoned.

Actually, I've a couple of friends that says the VA in this area is real good with PTSD. The problem is getting the service men to recognize they need the help.

That may be correct, my experience with the VA has not been good.

My information is just about the VA hospital near me. I know that "Free Medical Govrnment System" isn't as good in other places.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
OK. My bad. I probably should have said more in writing the OP or at least got back on the thread sooner. For that, my apologies.
This might sound strange but I'd also like to ask a favor. I'm really hoping this can be discussed not based on race or gender. The latter part of that might be challenging because yes, I'm looking at this case very specifically because the accused is an active duty service member. That makes it difficult because when we start talking about these cases that are military related, it usually is male perpetrator/female victim. However, it's not really the gender that is the commonality. It's the deployments.
I'm going to add this link because I think this particular author ties this together better than I possibly could. http://www.salon.com/2013/11/12/%E2%80%9Ca_lot_of_them_kill_their_wives%E2%80%9D_journalist_warns_of_post_deployment_crime_waves/

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