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Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 5:23:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Anything to escape the truth and the topic. If you'd said anything cogent about the topic I may have responded. As it was, it was as you always post, nothing. So since you had no idea of the topic, it was you posting off topic. And as you are so hateful, I seldom see truth in you. Truth is inconvenient to you apparently. Now, since I know your deep passive agreesive emotional being needs the last word, have at it.

AtUrCervix -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 5:53:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Made2Obey Hmmm, so Trump is to blame, but the mayor who took an oath of office to keep the peace in his city gets a pass just because the KKK showed up in his town and he did nothing about it? When I was 13 I happened to be in Houston visiting my cousins.We were downtown when a police cordon line was set up on the street. Not long afterward a group of marchers in full KKK regalia went by. Being a Yankee I had never seen KKK, or even heard of them. I asked my cousin what was going on. He shrugged and said, "It's the Klan, they do that all the time." It was no big deal to him or anyone else around and they passed by, the police cordon was removed, and that was as far as it went. I doubt it was a particularly effective event for the KKK, as no one seemed to be taking much notice of them. Who knows? Maybe they recruited one or two new members as a result. I don't recall who the mayor of Houston was at the time, but he did provide as much police coverage as needed on the spot to ensure a civil event. Basically the KKK was marginalized and had little effect. Charlottesville, on the other hand, had fewer marchers, but was allowed to become a violent event that is sure to recruit people to all sides. A tale of two cities, one that knows how to handle such events, and one that allows citizen injuries because the mayor doesn't happen to see eye to eye with the president. There's one missing component of your presentation above (as to comparing the events of 2 days ago...and those of your being 13): This march....the KKK jacks....all had guns. Some were even semi automatics. There was apparently intelligence that they came here to hurt people. These were not good people.

Made2Obey -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 6:20:55 PM)
Yes, I was 13, but I had also just finished high school and was about to begin college shortly after that trip, hardly an unaware kid. From what I have read that intelligence of guns came from an affidavit put out by the chief of police when he tried to influence a judge to change the venue days before and was mostly speculation. However, do you really suppose that if all those marchers had been armed with firearms, that there would not have been a hail of gunfire that left all the counter protestors bleeding in the streets? As we learned at Kent State in the 60s, put enough loaded weapons into a confrontational situation and some of them will be used. So far I've heard zero about gunfire at this event. Good chance that there really were not many guns there or they'd have been used, don't you think?

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 6:26:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic You make my teeth itch. That's your meth addiction doing that

Lucylastic -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 6:31:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic simple...yes, true, because you actually got it...well done... But I do wish you wouldnt talk to me. You make my teeth itch. That's your meth addiction doing that hey I bow to your experience and recognition, is it projection? or memory? Ive never done meth

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 6:41:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic hey I bow to your experience and recognition, is it projection? or memory? Ive never done meth Really? Because you act just like a meth hag.

Lucylastic -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 6:47:14 PM)
as I said, your experience...thanks

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 6:50:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix quote: ORIGINAL: Made2Obey Hmmm, so Trump is to blame, but the mayor who took an oath of office to keep the peace in his city gets a pass just because the KKK showed up in his town and he did nothing about it? When I was 13 I happened to be in Houston visiting my cousins.We were downtown when a police cordon line was set up on the street. Not long afterward a group of marchers in full KKK regalia went by. Being a Yankee I had never seen KKK, or even heard of them. I asked my cousin what was going on. He shrugged and said, "It's the Klan, they do that all the time." It was no big deal to him or anyone else around and they passed by, the police cordon was removed, and that was as far as it went. I doubt it was a particularly effective event for the KKK, as no one seemed to be taking much notice of them. Who knows? Maybe they recruited one or two new members as a result. I don't recall who the mayor of Houston was at the time, but he did provide as much police coverage as needed on the spot to ensure a civil event. Basically the KKK was marginalized and had little effect. Charlottesville, on the other hand, had fewer marchers, but was allowed to become a violent event that is sure to recruit people to all sides. A tale of two cities, one that knows how to handle such events, and one that allows citizen injuries because the mayor doesn't happen to see eye to eye with the president. There's one missing component of your presentation above (as to comparing the events of 2 days ago...and those of your being 13): This march....the KKK jacks....all had guns. Some were even semi automatics. There was apparently intelligence that they came here to hurt people. These were not good people. Huh. Who would-a thought it? Oh yeah -- everyone sane. [:)]

Made2Obey -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 7:27:58 PM)
[image]https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/wiscnews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/3/85/385582bd-01d1-580a-8a7b-3f6004d8f86a/598f649d3429c.image.jpg[/image] Who came armed? Marchers = flags Counter Protesters = flame throwers Does anyone believe seriously that if the marchers had come with guns, that that man would still be standing? The guns were a false flag days before the event. Oh yeah, and why do "peaceful protesters" need to wear masks?

kdsub -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 7:43:13 PM)
Just maybe the guy should not be trying to hit him with a flagpole.

bounty44 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 7:49:22 PM)
without going through 14 pages of posts to see if this has already been covered, im going to throw this out there and no doubt hack off a lot of the comrades here. its the left who feel "entitled" to meet people who hold opinions with which they disagree, with violence. given that, I have very little doubt where the escalation came from.

thompsonx -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 7:55:51 PM)
]ORIGINAL: bounty44 without going through 14 pages of posts to see if this has already been covered, Why would you make any effort to acquaint yourself with the conversation. You have only come to tell us of your love for the poor mis understood Nazi/clan members. im going to throw this out there and no doubt hack off a lot of the comrades here. its the left who feel "entitled" to meet people who hold opinions with which they disagree, with violence. Another proud supporter of the nazi ideal. given that, I have very little doubt where the escalation came from. The Nazi/klan have a pretty solid reputation for violence now don't they?

Made2Obey -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:07:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx The Nazi/klan have a pretty solid reputation for violence now don't they? Prior to and during WWII I'd agree with that, but if you look at almost any of their events in the US in the last 20 years or so, there was no violence until they were attacked first. Like it or not those groups have learned to be law abiding or they would no longer exist.

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:32:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 without going through 14 pages of posts to see if this has already been covered, im going to throw this out there and no doubt hack off a lot of the comrades here. its the left who feel "entitled" to meet people who hold opinions with which they disagree, with violence. given that, I have very little doubt where the escalation came from. Sure. No need for the facts when you've already invented your own story.

Greta75 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:37:09 PM)
FR If US would regulate protest and counter protest and have them both occur on different days. Must apply permits properly so that the police can also arrange proper security. That would be better for the future for everybody's safety. Any protest or counter protest of racial or religious things is often a very emotional event and people are gonna offend each other and go out of hand majority of the time. It's also about keeping things civilise. As in if it says, on protestors day. No counter protesters allowed near them. On counter protesting day. No Protestors allowed near the counter protestors. Both will have their days. Both will have their voice heard. But just keep them apart. To not anticipate that such an emotional event would lead to violence is just being unrealistic. It all boils down to, PREVENTION! Not outrage after shit has happened.

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:39:17 PM)
Good luck with that.

tamaka -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:43:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Good luck with that. Yes well... in other news... http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-40918494/rare-white-moose-captured-on-film-in-sweden

tamaka -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:45:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tamaka quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery Good luck with that. Yes well... in other news... http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-40918494/rare-white-moose-captured-on-film-in-sweden Now what was the probability that the next post would be about a rare white moose in Sweden?

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:51:25 PM)
Is this a white supremacist moose?

Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/14/2017 8:55:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 without going through 14 pages of posts to see if this has already been covered, im going to throw this out there and no doubt hack off a lot of the comrades here. its the left who feel "entitled" to meet people who hold opinions with which they disagree, with violence. given that, I have very little doubt where the escalation came from. Sure. No need for the facts when you've already invented your own story. Lol, the left hasn't invented this whole story. Fucking amazing.

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