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BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 1:16:03 AM)
Yeah yeah yea, Russian Nazis everywhere... [:D] You are a shit-eating howler dog

ThatDizzyChick -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 1:30:01 AM)
quote: that was the author's words, not mine. I didn't say they were your words, there was an "s" at the end of "minds". Pay attention. quote: But, if you really think ANTIFA doesn't exist: I didn't say it didn't exist, there was no "s" at the end of "group. Pay attention

BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 3:03:10 AM)
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Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:22:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX President Trump has never said one thing that makes him a "Nazi" or KKK or anything of the sort I have never posted one single thing that makes me a "Nazi" or KKK or anything of the sort It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. Coupling this refusal with your continual attempts to blame shift responsibility onto "leftists" it is abundantly clear where your sympathies lie. In lockstep with your dear leader Thump, you have chosen to align yourself with the fascists, the KKK and the white supremacists. Just as revolting is your implicit sanctioning of terrorism by far Right thugs. Your opposition to terrorism disappears when terrorism is conducted by your bosom white male buddies on the far Right. Any one in any doubt need only review Bosco's contributions to this thread for confirmation of the above, and for confirmation of his solidarity with the forces of hate bigotry and white supremacy. Disgusting. Indefensible. See for example, my posts #s 182 and 190 asking Bosco to explicitly disavow the terrorist incident in Charlottesville, and his pointed refusal to do so in his responses posts #s 188 and 203. Yep.

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:49:32 AM)
As he coddles neo-Nazis, Trump’s political isolation increases President Trump retreated to one of his private golf courses on Wednesday night amid the uproar over his sympathetic words for neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Trump needs his safe spaces, now more than ever, because he is becoming increasingly more isolated, politically and personally. In a news conference at Trump Tower on Tuesday, the fake president taunted the “fake news” reporters and doubled down on his contention that anti-fascist demonstrators were as complicit as the fascists themselves for the violence in Charlottesville, Va., last weekend that left one young woman dead and many more injured. Reportedly, Trump has no regrets about the things he said. Apparently, he is very pleased with himself for delivering a belligerent defense of all the “very fine people” among the openly anti-Semitic, racist demonstrators. That perception was reinforced by his hyper-nationalist political advisor, Stephen K. Bannon, who enthusiastically declared the news conference “a defining moment” for Trump’s presidency. And, indeed, it was a defining moment. It made crystal clear the truth that Donald Trump cannot shake his warm feelings for “blood and soil” racists who see him as their ally. White nationalist leader Richard Spencer is absolutely on target with his contention that, though Trump may not be ideologically in lock step with the movement, the president has a “psychic connection” with the alt-right. So, Trump has the support of Spencer, Bannon and a bunch of pudgy, pugilistic, socially awkward men in polo shirts carrying torches and Confederate flags and raising their arms in Nazi salutes. Elsewhere, though, his support is shrinking. His poll numbers hit a new low this week — 34%, according to Gallup. Given that a quarter of Americans consistently prove their looniness by subscribing to preposterous conspiracy theories like birtherism and Pizzagate, that poll number indicates Trump is getting ever closer to being the president only of fools and fascists. On Wednesday, Trump rushed to dissolve two highly-touted business advisory councils before all the CEOs on those panels quit. Business leaders had been bolting for the exits like an audience in a burning circus tent after Trump failed to make a distinction between the Nazi sympathizers who invaded Charlottesville and the people who showed up to protest their vile philosophy. On Tuesday, Trump slammed the departing CEOs as “grandstanders” and said he could easily replace them, but, by Wednesday, the president must have realized no prominent businessman in his right mind now wants to ruin his reputation by colluding with him. In another dramatic move, five top military leaders — the chiefs of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and National Guard — made strong statements condemning racism and Nazism. The Army chief of staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, sent out a tweet that said, “The Army doesn’t tolerate racism, extremism or hatred in our ranks. It’s against our values and everything we’ve stood for since 1775.” Such pointed comments from the military’s top brass are highly unusual and are a sharp, if indirect, rebuke to the commander in chief. Several conservative pundits and Republican activists expressed outrage at Trump’s defense of the white nationalists. On Fox News, Charles Krauthammer branded Trump’s comments “a moral disgrace.” Most GOP elected officials shied away from criticizing Trump so directly, even as they issued their own condemnations of bigotry. Some, though, did take Trump on, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who said the president was wrong for not assigning all the blame for the Charlottesville tragedy to white supremacists. “We cannot allow this old evil to be resurrected,” Rubio tweeted. Reportedly, some members of Trump’s Cabinet and White House team were upset by the president’s comments, too. As Chief of Staff John F. Kelly stood off to the side of Trump during the Tuesday news conference, he exuded the body language of a man who realizes he has sold his soul to the devil. The media is now abuzz with speculation about how long these people can work for a man with such a skewed moral compass before self-loathing impels them to resign. Seven months into his four-year term, Trump is fast becoming as politically isolated as Richard Nixon in his final days in office. He feels no sense of loyalty to anyone, except, perhaps, members of his family. He insults allies, demeans his own appointees and treats even well-meaning critics as enemies. Trump is a man without real friends in Washington. In the rest of the country, a majority of people now see him as incompetent, if not a clear and present danger to the republic. But Trump still has his base. And he will cling to them and coddle them, even if some among them are Nazis and white supremacists. It is a twisted neediness that makes Donald Trump blind to obvious evil. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-coddle-nazis-20170817-story.html

Greta75 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 6:06:40 AM)
This is why liberals scares the fuck out of me. Their sense of justice is filled with biasness towards coloured people only. Maybe IF Muslims were majority blond blue eyed white people, they wouldn't feel so sympathetic towards Muslims.

thompsonx -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 6:15:24 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 This is why liberals scares the fuck out of me. Their sense of justice is filled with biasness towards coloured people only. Maybe IF Muslims were majority blond blue eyed white people, they wouldn't feel so sympathetic towards Muslims. Another nazi sympathizer identified

Greta75 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 6:21:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Another nazi sympathizer identified When people are being Muslims sympathizer, a group of people who wants jews and israel wiped from this earth. It's laughable when they get upset about Nazi sympathizers.

CreativeDominant -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:16:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: Violent Groups Like Antifa There is no such group, it exists only in your warped minds. You are the one whose mind is warped or in denial...that was the author's words, not mine. But, if you really think ANTIFA doesn't exist: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/08/16/who-are-the-antifa/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/534192/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html from your own source(wiki) Antifa is composed of autonomous groups, not a formal organization I never claimed it was a formal organization. I just claimed that ANTIFA exists. That was your friend Dizzy that claimed it doesn't.

DesideriScuri -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:22:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? That's another thing about the media. Why the fuck does Trump have to do a fucking thing they say, or respond to any question they ask? Fuck them. Did then-President Obama disavow the New Black Panthers when they caused issues at some polling stations? quote:* Coupling this refusal with your continual attempts to blame shift responsibility onto "leftists" it is abundantly clear where your sympathies lie. In lockstep with your dear leader Thump, you have chosen to align yourself with the fascists, the KKK and the white supremacists. Just as revolting is your implicit sanctioning of terrorism by far Right thugs. Your opposition to terrorism disappears when terrorism is conducted by your bosom white male buddies on the far Right. Any one in any doubt need only review Bosco's contributions to this thread for confirmation of the above, and for confirmation of his solidarity with the forces of hate bigotry and white supremacy. Disgusting. Indefensible. Have you disavowed the violence of the counter-protesters who demonstrated their own form of hate? Trump stated that the hate shown by both sides should not have a place in the US. How is that not a disavowal of the white supremacists/KK?

CreativeDominant -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:23:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick quote: that was the author's words, not mine. I didn't say they were your words, there was an "s" at the end of "minds". Pay attention. quote: But, if you really think ANTIFA doesn't exist: I didn't say it didn't exist, there was no "s" at the end of "group. Pay attention Why don't you pay attention and see if you can find anywhere in the article that the author claimed Antics is a formal organization or that I did. If he had or I had or anyone else did, that would be the only reason for you to make such a statement of denial in the first place. I'll wait for you to cite the post where anyone made such a claim.

thompsonx -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:31:00 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 ORIGINAL: thompsonx Another nazi sympathizer identified When people are being Muslims sympathizer, a group of people who wants jews and israel wiped from this earth. It's laughable when they get upset about Nazi sympathizers. You take yourself way too seriously for a "fat slant eyed gook" (remember you said you thought this was a compliment). No one is upset about you being a nazi....it is not like it is a new revelation. When one walks among rattle snakes it is prudent to know where they are. When bigots like yourself self identify it just makes life amongst the rattle snakes a little less troublesome.

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:31:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? That's another thing about the media. Why the fuck does Trump have to do a fucking thing they say, or respond to any question they ask? Fuck them. Did then-President Obama disavow the New Black Panthers when they caused issues at some polling stations? quote:* Coupling this refusal with your continual attempts to blame shift responsibility onto "leftists" it is abundantly clear where your sympathies lie. In lockstep with your dear leader Thump, you have chosen to align yourself with the fascists, the KKK and the white supremacists. Just as revolting is your implicit sanctioning of terrorism by far Right thugs. Your opposition to terrorism disappears when terrorism is conducted by your bosom white male buddies on the far Right. Any one in any doubt need only review Bosco's contributions to this thread for confirmation of the above, and for confirmation of his solidarity with the forces of hate bigotry and white supremacy. Disgusting. Indefensible. Have you disavowed the violence of the counter-protesters who demonstrated their own form of hate? Trump stated that the hate shown by both sides should not have a place in the US. How is that not a disavowal of the white supremacists/KK? Well, I've disavowed it. And who am I to demand he do anything? An American citizen. I'll criticize his tie if I so choose. He's neither a god nor a king. He is, however, a leader who gave a weak ass "disavowal" of a truly ugly hate movement. That's not good enough. And as a citizen, I get to decide that. And the media can ask him any fucking question they want as well--good or stupid.

DesideriScuri -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:40:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? That's another thing about the media. Why the fuck does Trump have to do a fucking thing they say, or respond to any question they ask? Fuck them. Did then-President Obama disavow the New Black Panthers when they caused issues at some polling stations? quote:* Coupling this refusal with your continual attempts to blame shift responsibility onto "leftists" it is abundantly clear where your sympathies lie. In lockstep with your dear leader Thump, you have chosen to align yourself with the fascists, the KKK and the white supremacists. Just as revolting is your implicit sanctioning of terrorism by far Right thugs. Your opposition to terrorism disappears when terrorism is conducted by your bosom white male buddies on the far Right. Any one in any doubt need only review Bosco's contributions to this thread for confirmation of the above, and for confirmation of his solidarity with the forces of hate bigotry and white supremacy. Disgusting. Indefensible. Have you disavowed the violence of the counter-protesters who demonstrated their own form of hate? Trump stated that the hate shown by both sides should not have a place in the US. How is that not a disavowal of the white supremacists/KK? Well, I've disavowed it. And who am I to demand he do anything? An American citizen. I'll criticize his tie if I so choose. He's neither a god nor a king. There's a big difference between criticizing and demanding he do something. quote: He is, however, a leader who gave a weak ass "disavowal" of a truly ugly hate movement. That's not good enough. And as a citizen, I get to decide that. That's not good enough for you. Thank you for at least acknowledging that he disavowed a truly ugly hate movement. quote: And the media can ask him any fucking question they want as well--good or stupid. I did not say they couldn't.

thompsonx -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:42:01 AM)
ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? The punk works for me. You bet your ass I have a right to tell him what to do. That's another thing about the media. Why the fuck does Trump have to do a fucking thing they say, or respond to any question they ask? Fuck them. Because trump is the president not the king. What country do you live in? Did then-President Obama disavow the New Black Panthers when they caused issues at some polling stations? What exactly did the black panthers do that was illegal? Have you disavowed the violence of the counter-protesters who demonstrated their own form of hate? I also have not disavowed the violence of the founders. I have not and will not disavow the amerikan effort to exterminate Nazis during ww2. Trump stated that the hate shown by both sides should not have a place in the US. That is because he is a moron who has no understanding of how this country was founded or how it is suppose to work. This country was founded on violence...that is why it is called a revolution dumbass.

Greta75 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:47:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx You take yourself way too seriously for a "fat slant eyed gook" (remember you said you thought this was a compliment). I'm glad everything is in black and white on this FORUM, and THIS proves that you are the lowest kind of dishonourable unscrupulous LIAR that I ever said that FAT SHAMING was okay.

Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 7:58:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? That's another thing about the media. Why the fuck does Trump have to do a fucking thing they say, or respond to any question they ask? Fuck them. Did then-President Obama disavow the New Black Panthers when they caused issues at some polling stations? quote:* Coupling this refusal with your continual attempts to blame shift responsibility onto "leftists" it is abundantly clear where your sympathies lie. In lockstep with your dear leader Thump, you have chosen to align yourself with the fascists, the KKK and the white supremacists. Just as revolting is your implicit sanctioning of terrorism by far Right thugs. Your opposition to terrorism disappears when terrorism is conducted by your bosom white male buddies on the far Right. Any one in any doubt need only review Bosco's contributions to this thread for confirmation of the above, and for confirmation of his solidarity with the forces of hate bigotry and white supremacy. Disgusting. Indefensible. Have you disavowed the violence of the counter-protesters who demonstrated their own form of hate? Trump stated that the hate shown by both sides should not have a place in the US. How is that not a disavowal of the white supremacists/KK? Well, I've disavowed it. And who am I to demand he do anything? An American citizen. I'll criticize his tie if I so choose. He's neither a god nor a king. There's a big difference between criticizing and demanding he do something. quote: He is, however, a leader who gave a weak ass "disavowal" of a truly ugly hate movement. That's not good enough. And as a citizen, I get to decide that. That's not good enough for you. Thank you for at least acknowledging that he disavowed a truly ugly hate movement. quote: And the media can ask him any fucking question they want as well--good or stupid. I did not say they couldn't. Well, I can also demand. It may not get me far. But I can if I choose. If we keep the focus on it, the haters will have their last hurrah, and the next few elections can relegate them finally to history. I hope.

tweakabelle -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 8:25:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked* to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? You are inventing a "demand" and then falsely attributing it to me. Here's what I requested of Bosco : "Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...? (my post#180) and "Perhaps you might like to rectify this, and unlike your bosom buddy Bosco who refuses to, condemn an act of terrorism carried out on US soil killing a US citizen ... " (my post #198) Eventually Bosco responded (in his post # 203) with a mealy mouthed disavowal of "violence, blaming "leftists" for the violence he was disavowing. As is plain to see, no demands were made of anyone. Requests were made politely, a lot more politely than your arrogant, aggressive and wholely unjustified intervention which was notable both for its stupidity and its rudeness. So who the fuck are you to either stupidly or deliberately mischaracterise my requests as "demands" and blow your self righteous top about something when you have completely failed to understand what is happening? Are you trying to impersonate a cretin? If so, you are remarkably convincing, 100% successful.

DesideriScuri -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 8:50:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville, despite being asked* to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself. You're demanding he disavow the KKK, fascists and white supremacists? Who the fuck are you to demand he do anything? You are inventing a "demand" and then falsely attributing it to me. Here's what I requested of Bosco : "Why is it so difficult, apparently impossible for you to say directly: 'There is no place for white supremacists, neo-Nazis and fascists in the USA I live in' ...? (my post#180) and "Perhaps you might like to rectify this, and unlike your bosom buddy Bosco who refuses to, condemn an act of terrorism carried out on US soil killing a US citizen ... " (my post #198) Eventually Bosco responded (in his post # 203) with a mealy mouthed disavowal of "violence, blaming "leftists" for the violence he was disavowing. As is plain to see, no demands were made of anyone. Requests were made politely, a lot more politely than your arrogant, aggressive and wholely unjustified intervention which was notable both for its stupidity and its rudeness. Oh, horsehit. Since he didn't cow to your questioning, you're painting him with what-the-fuck-ever brush you want, with no actual evidence of you're being correct. So, it's "answer my questions or you'll be denigrated as a racist." Yeah, no demand there at all. quote: So who the fuck are you to either stupidly or deliberately mischaracterise my requests as "demands" and blow your self righteous top about something when you have completely failed to understand what is happening? Truth struck a little too close to a nerve, Tweaks? I completely understand what's happening, and calling you out on your bullshit. Maybe it was you that doesn't understand? quote: Are you trying to impersonate a cretin? If so, you are remarkably convincing, 100% successful. Aw, now you're lowering yourself to comparing me to someone with a congenital disability. How endearing and sensitive.

WhoreMods -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 8:57:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri Oh, horsehit. Since he didn't cow to your questioning, you're painting him with what-the-fuck-ever brush you want, with no actual evidence of you're being correct. If that approach is good enough for all moslems, why isn't it good enough for the whole of the American right? If the first group can be assumed to all agree with their lunatic fringe, why can't the second? (Not a rhetorical or leading question, or snark: I'm genuinely curious as to how you see the two groups differing over this.)

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