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bounty44 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 4:41:09 PM)

"When Liberals Club People, It’s With Love In Their Hearts"

oh no comrades, townhall AND ann coulter!

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Apparently, as long as violent leftists label their victims “fascists,” they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody. No police officer will stop them. They have carte blanche to physically assault anyone they disapprove of, including Charles Murray, Heather Mac Donald, Ben Shapiro, me and Milo Yiannopoulos, as well as anyone who wanted to hear us speak.

Even far-left liberals like Evergreen State professor Bret Weinstein will be stripped of police protection solely because the mob called him a “racist.”

If the liberal shock troops deem local Republicans “Nazis” — because some of them support the duly elected Republican president — Portland will cancel the annual Rose Festival parade rather than allow any Trump supporters to march.

They’re all “fascists”! Ipso facto, the people cracking their skulls and smashing store windows are “anti-fascists,” or as they call themselves, “antifa.”

We have no way of knowing if the speakers at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally last weekend were “Nazis,” “white supremacists” or passionate Civil War buffs, inasmuch as they weren’t allowed to speak. The Democratic governor shut the event down, despite a court order to let it proceed.

We have only visuals presented to us by the activist media, showing some participants with Nazi paraphernalia. But for all we know, the Nazi photos are as unrepresentative of the rally as that photo of the drowned Syrian child is of Europe’s migrant crisis. Was it 1 percent Nazi or 99 percent Nazi?

As the “Unite the Right” crowd was dispersing, they were forced by the police into the path of the peace-loving, rock-throwing, fire-spraying antifa. A far-left reporter for The New York Times, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, tweeted live from the event: “The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.”

That’s when protestor James Fields sped his car into a crowd of the counter-protesters, then immediately hit reverse, injuring dozens of people, and killing one woman, Heather Heyer.

This has been universally labeled “terrorism,” but we still don’t know whether Fields hit the gas accidentally, was in fear for his life or if he rammed the group intentionally and maliciously.

With any luck, we’ll unravel Fields’ motives faster than it took the Obama administration to discern the motives of a Muslim shouting “Allahu Akbar!” while gunning down soldiers at Fort Hood. (Six years.)

But so far, all we know is that Fields said he was “upset about black people” and wanted to kill as many as possible. On his Facebook page, he displayed a “White Power” poster and “liked” three organizations deemed “white separatist hate groups” by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A subsequent search of his home turned up bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics.

Actually, none of that is true. The paragraph above describes, down to the letter, what was known about Micah Xavier Johnson, the black man who murdered five Dallas cops a year ago during a Black Lives Matter demonstration. My sole alteration to the facts is reversing the words “black” and “white.”

President Obama held a news conference the next day to say it’s “very hard to untangle the motives.” The New York Times editorialized agnostically that many “possible motives will be ticked off for the killer.” (One motive kind of sticks out like a sore thumb to me.)

In certain cases, the media are quite willing to jump to conclusions. In others, they seem to need an inordinate amount of time to detect motives.

The media think they already know all there is to know about James Fields, but they also thought they knew all about the Duke lacrosse players, “gentle giant” Michael Brown and those alleged gang-rapists at the University of Virginia.

Waiting for facts is now the “Nazi” position.

Liberals have Republicans over a barrel because they used the word “racist.” The word is kryptonite, capable of turning the entire GOP and 99 percent of the “conservative media” into a panicky mass of cowardice.

This week, Mitt Romney and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) — among others — instructed us that masked liberals hitting people with baseball bats are pure of heart — provided they first label the likes of Charles Murray or some housewife in a “MAGA” hat “fascists.”

Luckily, the week before opening fire on Republicans, critically injuring House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, Bernie Sanders-supporter James Hodgkinson had used the vital talisman, calling the GOP “fascist.” So you see, he wasn’t trying to commit mass murder! He was just fighting “Nazis.” Rubio and Romney will be expert witnesses.

And let’s recall the response of Hillary Clinton to the horrifying murder of five Dallas cops last year. The woman who ran against Trump displayed all the moral blindness currently being slanderously imputed to him.

In an interview on CNN about the slaughter that had taken place roughly 12 hours earlier, Hillary barely paused to acknowledge the five dead officers — much less condemn the shooting — before criticizing police for their “implicit bias” six times in about as many minutes.

What she really wanted to talk about were the two recent police shootings of black men in Baton Rouge and Minneapolis, refusing to contradict Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton’s claim that the Minneapolis shooting was based on racism.

Officers in both cases were later found innocent of any wrongdoing. Either the left has had a really bad streak of luck on their police brutality cases, or bad cops are a lot rarer than they think.

Some people would not consider the mass murder of five white policemen by an anti-cop nut in the middle of a BLM protest a good jumping-off point for airing BLM’s delusional complaints about the police. It would be like responding to John Hinckley Jr.’s attempted murder of President Reagan by denouncing Jodie Foster for not dating him.

Or, to bring it back to Charlottesville, it would be as if Trump had responded by expounding on the kookiest positions of “Unite the Right” — just as Hillary’s response echoed the paranoid obsessions of the cop-killer. Trump would have quickly skipped over the dead girl and railed against black people, Jews and so on.

That is the precise analogy to what Hillary did as the bodies of five Dallas cops lay in the morgue.

Thank God Donald J. Trump is our president, and not Mitt Romney, not Marco Rubio and not that nasty woman.


https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/08/16/when-liberals-club-people-its-with-love-in-their-hearts-n2369688




WickedsDesire -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 4:54:21 PM)

Seems to me some nazi fuker ran his car at someone - I dunno. 1 dead - was his car a liberal named Hillary Someone, or are you arguing the right wingers have no sense of direction due to lack of brain?




BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:03:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

I see over and over how musicmystery misrepresents the "other side."


ManiacalMysery -a lost, confused, hateful, ignorant, petty and immature little troll




WickedsDesire -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:12:34 PM)

My goals are beyond your understanding

I always wanted to lock someone in my sock drawer - what say you?

The Flash vs Professor Zoom




BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:12:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

"When Liberals Club People, It’s With Love In Their Hearts"

oh no comrades, townhall AND ann coulter!

quote:

Apparently, as long as violent leftists label their victims “fascists,” they are free to set fires, smash windows and beat civilians bloody. No police officer will stop them. They have carte blanche to physically assault anyone they disapprove of, including Charles Murray, Heather Mac Donald, Ben Shapiro, me and Milo Yiannopoulos, as well as anyone who wanted to hear us speak.

Even far-left liberals like Evergreen State professor Bret Weinstein will be stripped of police protection solely because the mob called him a “racist.”

If the liberal shock troops deem local Republicans “Nazis” — because some of them support the duly elected Republican president — Portland will cancel the annual Rose Festival parade rather than allow any Trump supporters to march.

They’re all “fascists”! Ipso facto, the people cracking their skulls and smashing store windows are “anti-fascists,” or as they call themselves, “antifa.”

We have no way of knowing if the speakers at the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally last weekend were “Nazis,” “white supremacists” or passionate Civil War buffs, inasmuch as they weren’t allowed to speak. The Democratic governor shut the event down, despite a court order to let it proceed.

We have only visuals presented to us by the activist media, showing some participants with Nazi paraphernalia. But for all we know, the Nazi photos are as unrepresentative of the rally as that photo of the drowned Syrian child is of Europe’s migrant crisis. Was it 1 percent Nazi or 99 percent Nazi?

As the “Unite the Right” crowd was dispersing, they were forced by the police into the path of the peace-loving, rock-throwing, fire-spraying antifa. A far-left reporter for The New York Times, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, tweeted live from the event: “The hard left seemed as hate-filled as alt-right. I saw club-wielding ‘antifa’ beating white nationalists being led out of the park.”

That’s when protestor James Fields sped his car into a crowd of the counter-protesters, then immediately hit reverse, injuring dozens of people, and killing one woman, Heather Heyer.

This has been universally labeled “terrorism,” but we still don’t know whether Fields hit the gas accidentally, was in fear for his life or if he rammed the group intentionally and maliciously.

With any luck, we’ll unravel Fields’ motives faster than it took the Obama administration to discern the motives of a Muslim shouting “Allahu Akbar!” while gunning down soldiers at Fort Hood. (Six years.)

But so far, all we know is that Fields said he was “upset about black people” and wanted to kill as many as possible. On his Facebook page, he displayed a “White Power” poster and “liked” three organizations deemed “white separatist hate groups” by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A subsequent search of his home turned up bomb-making materials, ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics.

Actually, none of that is true. The paragraph above describes, down to the letter, what was known about Micah Xavier Johnson, the black man who murdered five Dallas cops a year ago during a Black Lives Matter demonstration. My sole alteration to the facts is reversing the words “black” and “white.”

President Obama held a news conference the next day to say it’s “very hard to untangle the motives.” The New York Times editorialized agnostically that many “possible motives will be ticked off for the killer.” (One motive kind of sticks out like a sore thumb to me.)

In certain cases, the media are quite willing to jump to conclusions. In others, they seem to need an inordinate amount of time to detect motives.

The media think they already know all there is to know about James Fields, but they also thought they knew all about the Duke lacrosse players, “gentle giant” Michael Brown and those alleged gang-rapists at the University of Virginia.

Waiting for facts is now the “Nazi” position.

Liberals have Republicans over a barrel because they used the word “racist.” The word is kryptonite, capable of turning the entire GOP and 99 percent of the “conservative media” into a panicky mass of cowardice.

This week, Mitt Romney and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) — among others — instructed us that masked liberals hitting people with baseball bats are pure of heart — provided they first label the likes of Charles Murray or some housewife in a “MAGA” hat “fascists.”

Luckily, the week before opening fire on Republicans, critically injuring House Majority Whip Steve Scalise, Bernie Sanders-supporter James Hodgkinson had used the vital talisman, calling the GOP “fascist.” So you see, he wasn’t trying to commit mass murder! He was just fighting “Nazis.” Rubio and Romney will be expert witnesses.

And let’s recall the response of Hillary Clinton to the horrifying murder of five Dallas cops last year. The woman who ran against Trump displayed all the moral blindness currently being slanderously imputed to him.

In an interview on CNN about the slaughter that had taken place roughly 12 hours earlier, Hillary barely paused to acknowledge the five dead officers — much less condemn the shooting — before criticizing police for their “implicit bias” six times in about as many minutes.

What she really wanted to talk about were the two recent police shootings of black men in Baton Rouge and Minneapolis, refusing to contradict Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton’s claim that the Minneapolis shooting was based on racism.

Officers in both cases were later found innocent of any wrongdoing. Either the left has had a really bad streak of luck on their police brutality cases, or bad cops are a lot rarer than they think.

Some people would not consider the mass murder of five white policemen by an anti-cop nut in the middle of a BLM protest a good jumping-off point for airing BLM’s delusional complaints about the police. It would be like responding to John Hinckley Jr.’s attempted murder of President Reagan by denouncing Jodie Foster for not dating him.

Or, to bring it back to Charlottesville, it would be as if Trump had responded by expounding on the kookiest positions of “Unite the Right” — just as Hillary’s response echoed the paranoid obsessions of the cop-killer. Trump would have quickly skipped over the dead girl and railed against black people, Jews and so on.

That is the precise analogy to what Hillary did as the bodies of five Dallas cops lay in the morgue.

Thank God Donald J. Trump is our president, and not Mitt Romney, not Marco Rubio and not that nasty woman.


https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/08/16/when-liberals-club-people-its-with-love-in-their-hearts-n2369688



The only retort alt left trash can ever muster to a brilliant mind like Ann Coulter is their typical juvenile "faggot" "crossdresser" "Man Coulter" trollishness

The never have anything substantive to add to the conversation, just the opposite

Time and time again, and not just vs Ann Coulter. It's the only sort of defense they have to everything the believe




AtUrCervix -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:55:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

YOU don't know shit.

Opinion unmared by facts.

Either DO so...or shut the fuck up.

It is always nice to know who the nazis are.
You are not from around here so your ignorance is understandable. The nature of amerikan government is that we are allowed to complain loudly and proudly. Sorry that burns your ass maybe you should stay out of amerika if you do not like how we do things here.




You were lucky...you were blessed with ignorance.

Some of us weren't so lucky.

(Use it...it'll help you sleep).




bounty44 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 5:57:23 PM)

go look at the "who said this" thread.




Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 6:07:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"When Liberals Club People, It’s With Love In Their Hearts"

oh no comrades, townhall AND ann coulter!

And when armed white supremacists show up with Nazi flags, it's to spread the love of history.

You're a special blend.




WickedsDesire -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/17/2017 6:10:32 PM)

I thought you muttbreath44dogshit and the klying cunt idiot called boscox shared yours mums basement and proffered not one iota of reality, whilst screaming like mad rev the engine Nazi fuks?




Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/19/2017 11:43:04 AM)

A so-called "free speech" rally in Boston today organized by the radical right had city officials concerned all week, especially after Charlottesville. In the end there were more cops than the 100 or so protestors who showed up.

Counter protestors? 20,000 strong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/boston-rally_us_59963564e4b0e8cc855cbb42




BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 7:56:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

A so-called "free speech" rally in Boston today organized by the radical right had city officials concerned all week, especially after Charlottesville. In the end there were more cops than the 100 or so protestors who showed up.

Counter protestors? 20,000 strong.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/boston-rally_us_59963564e4b0e8cc855cbb42


Very predictably, leftists aren't having any of this free speech business. Either it's Soros-approved propaganda from Soros-approved hate mobs or it gets mauled

Related - Deranged Alt Left Haters Are Seeing Nazis Everywhere (oh my):

Man stabbed after haircut gets him mistaken for a neo-Nazi

This Colorado man is avowedly not a neo-Nazi.

But he believes his long-on-top, buzzed-on-the-sides haircut got him mistaken for one — and nearly stabbed to death by a confused anti-fascist.


Joshua Witt, 26, escaped his brush with hairdo-doom with a defensive slice to the hand and three stitches.
“Apparently, my haircut is considered a neo-Nazi statement,” he told The Post Saturday, as his account on Facebook garnered 20,000 shares.

Witt says he’d just pulled in to the parking lot of the Steak ’n Shake in Sheridan, Colo., and was opening his car door.

“All I hear is, ‘Are you one of them neo-Nazis?’ as this dude is swinging a knife up over my car door at me,” he said.

“I threw my hands up and once the knife kind of hit, I dived back into my car and shut the door and watched him run off west, behind my car.

“The dude was actually aiming for my head,” he added.

http://nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/





jlf1961 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 8:34:00 AM)

Hey bosco, how about we stop referring to them as leftist and rightist and just call them what they are.

COMPLETE FUCKING MORONS WHO HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT THE CONSTITUTION MEANS.

I mean you got liberals who are screaming about statues, war memorials etc and conservatives who are screaming about white supremacy and how the government is Christian etc....

When it is clear in the first amendment that:

1) there is no state religion
2) there is a right to free speech, which in my opinion, means that if some school or city wants to put up a statue to Robert E. Lee or whoever, they have the fucking right to do it.

And if they do not like it, they are free to go fuck themselves.

But if we are going to repeal amendments, can we start with the 19th? I mean seriously, look at the fucked up mess American politics got into after that one.




Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:03:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

If you think that it's okay to violently attack protesters you disagree with... That makes you a Nazi.


Right.

So, being slammed into by a car means the people being slammed into are "violently attacking the car."


I would hazard to guess that being the little coward you are, that if a dozen or so people were attacking your car with sticks you'd have stomped on the accelerator as well. Or would you have stopped, gotten out and explained to them that you were a tough sound engineer and having none of this shit?

Except that isn't what happened. He sped into the crowd, not the other way around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU3wqpuSQKg


My early understanding was based on, I believe, a CNN reporter quoting police. That has subsequently been changed by CNN. However, my opinion of edweird has not changed.




Nnanji -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:09:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

President Trump has never said one thing that makes him a "Nazi" or KKK or anything of the sort

I have never posted one single thing that makes me a "Nazi" or KKK or anything of the sort


It took several blunt requests for you to disavow the "violence" in Charlottesville*, despite being asked to disavow the KKK the fascists and the white supremacists. Your pointed refusal to disavow this loathsome collection of far Right looneys and thugs speaks for itself.

Coupling this refusal with your continual attempts to blame shift responsibility onto "leftists" it is abundantly clear where your sympathies lie. In lockstep with your dear leader Thump, you have chosen to align yourself with the fascists, the KKK and the white supremacists. Just as revolting is your implicit sanctioning of terrorism by far Right thugs. Your opposition to terrorism disappears when terrorism is conducted by your bosom white male buddies on the far Right.

Any one in any doubt need only review Bosco's contributions to this thread for confirmation of the above, and for confirmation of his solidarity with the forces of hate bigotry and white supremacy.

Disgusting. Indefensible.

* See for example, my posts #s 182 and 190 asking Bosco to explicitly disavow the terrorist incident in Charlottesville, and his pointed refusal to do so in his responses posts #s 188 and 203.



http://blog.dilbert.com/post/164297628606/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble

Especially see this part:

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4. The Oversized Reaction
It would be hard to overreact to a Nazi murder, or to racists marching in the streets with torches. That stuff demands a strong reaction. But if a Republican agrees with you that Nazis are the worst, and you threaten to punch that Republican for not agreeing with you exactly the right way, that might be an oversized reaction.




WhoreMods -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:25:36 AM)

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Musicmystery -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:38:13 AM)

I mean really. You'd think denouncing neo-nazi cries against Jews and people of color would be one area most partisans could agree on, without justification and spin.

But no. It's disappointing at the very least.




jlf1961 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:46:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I mean really. You'd think denouncing neo-nazi cries against Jews and people of color would be one area most partisans could agree on, without justification and spin.

But no. It's disappointing at the very least.



Yes, I quite agree.

This is a direct result of natural ginger haired soul stealing demons trying to polarize the world population and ignoring the true threat to our existence.




BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:47:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I mean really. You'd think denouncing neo-nazi cries against Jews and people of color would be one area most partisans could agree on, without justification and spin.

But no. It's disappointing at the very least.


Except it doesn't stop at "decrying" them, which I support "decrying" them.

Alt left trash at every level, from those in the media to those in political office all the way down to you evil minions in the street, have decided that you must personally police dissenting speech with mob violence

You are confusing conservative support for free speech and the freedom of assembly with support for the very kind of fascist behavior that alt left trash engages in with your violence and your thought crime stupidity




jlf1961 -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:53:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


Except it doesn't stop at "decrying" them, which I support "decrying" them.

Alt left trash at every level, from those in the media to those in political office all the way down to you evil minions in the street, have decided that you must personally police dissenting speech with mob violence

You are confusing conservative support for free speech and the freedom of assembly with support for the very kind of fascist behavior that alt left trash engages in with your violence and your thought crime stupidity



Okay, while I agree with your point, up to the left being the only ones bitching, simply because I remember various instances in modern American history where White, Christian Americans were all for banning (and burning) various works of Literature the deemed inappropriate.

Would that not constitute an attack on free speech, qualified by your statement?




BoscoX -> RE: White Nationalists turn violent in VA -- state of emergency called (8/20/2017 9:58:44 AM)


FR

Even the modern version of freedom of the press is under attack by the alt left and their corporate overlords. Sure, everyone disagrees with the Nazis, but who will the leftist's corporate overlords come for next. And then after that...

Is Google Working with Liberal Groups to Snuff Out Conservative Websites?

Tech Censorship Draws Criticism From Within Industry...




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