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Nnanji -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 5:33:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HaveRopeWillBind

So what's next? Will people who just happen to be named Lee or Davis be removed because they are reminders of slavery?
This whole thing is ridiculous.

I say since the Democratic Party was the founder of the KKK and Jim Crow, the party has to go.



Danemora -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 6:39:02 PM)

Both parties do in all honesty. Nothing ever gets done anymore because both sides are too busy towing the party line.



Nnanji -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 6:58:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Both parties do in all honesty. Nothing ever gets done anymore because both sides are too busy towing the party line.

I'm not sure that you aren't missing the point that the lefts justification is racism, not dysfunctional government.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 7:36:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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The least government possible, is the best government possible.

Now that is a dangerously socialist idea, almost communist in fact. Best be careful there.



Really? Because i thought you just said on the other thread that communism has nothing much to do with government.

That's because you're really not too fucking bright. Go back and read it again.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 7:38:03 PM)

You know sweet fuck all about communism.



tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 7:56:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick


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ORIGINAL: tamaka


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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The least government possible, is the best government possible.

Now that is a dangerously socialist idea, almost communist in fact. Best be careful there.



Really? Because i thought you just said on the other thread that communism has nothing much to do with government.

That's because you're really not too fucking bright. Go back and read it again.



Here is what you said:

HWhat you are failing to understand is that socialism is not concerned with details like that, it, like communism and capitalism, is a socio-economic theory that concerns itself with the best method of organizing the the creation and distribution of wealth. That is all they are. While they do touch on the role of government, they are not political theories on how to constitute a government...





tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 7:57:46 PM)



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ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 8:17:26 PM)

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Here is what you said:
Please pay very close attention here, I am going to show you where you fucked up.
While they do touch on the role of government, they are not political theories on how to constitute a government

See that, "the role of government" bit? Think about what those words mean, I know it will be difficult for you, but I have faith in your ability to actually comprehend the English language if you really put your mind to it.



tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/20/2017 9:02:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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Here is what you said:
Please pay very close attention here, I am going to show you where you fucked up.
While they do touch on the role of government, they are not political theories on how to constitute a government

See that, "the role of government" bit? Think about what those words mean, I know it will be difficult for you, but I have faith in your ability to actually comprehend the English language if you really put your mind to it.


Ok. I see.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/21/2017 7:53:23 AM)

I knew you could do it if you tried hard enough.



tamaka -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/21/2017 11:52:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

I knew you could do it if you tried hard enough.


Sure. Now why don't you try citing 1 source on the other thread. I'm sure you can do it if you try hard enough.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/21/2017 6:28:52 PM)

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Now why don't you try citing 1 source on the other thread.

I already stated that there was no one source, and I listed off a number of works and authors for you to start with.



Danemora -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/21/2017 9:00:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Both parties do in all honesty. Nothing ever gets done anymore because both sides are too busy towing the party line.

I'm not sure that you aren't missing the point that the lefts justification is racism, not dysfunctional government.


Ill be the first to admit I might have missed your point. Im a leftist...and I believe the two party system here in the US blows. If I misunderstood or my piggybacking yoir point was off the mark, I apologize. Truth be told, Im enjoying the learning



jlf1961 -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/21/2017 9:42:01 PM)



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ORIGINAL: Nnanji



I'm not sure that you aren't missing the point that the lefts justification is racism, not dysfunctional government.


Actually the arguments that are favored by liberals in the US are:

Because of guns
Racism
The Republicans (even when the flat out steal a republican idea and brand it as their own)

There is a cure, however, but it would mean teaching the american people how to think originally instead of some dickheaded hack telling them what to think from some news set on some fucking network, and that applies to both sides of the fucking aisle.



BamaD -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/21/2017 10:05:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961



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ORIGINAL: Nnanji



I'm not sure that you aren't missing the point that the lefts justification is racism, not dysfunctional government.


Actually the arguments that are favored by liberals in the US are:

Because of guns
Racism
The Republicans (even when the flat out steal a republican idea and brand it as their own)

There is a cure, however, but it would mean teaching the american people how to think originally instead of some dickheaded hack telling them what to think from some news set on some fucking network, and that applies to both sides of the fucking aisle.

So you believe in miricals, that would take undoing of 40 years (or more) of public school and college education.



BamaD -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/22/2017 7:22:52 AM)

FR

If you have 2 groups demonstrating.
They hate each other.
You let them demonstrate right by each other.
By doing this you deprive both of freedom of speech because they disrupt each others speeches.
To protect the freedom of speech for both you must do you of 2 things.
A move them far enough from each other that they don't disrupt each other.
B have a large enough police presence to prevent trouble.



Nnanji -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/22/2017 9:05:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961



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ORIGINAL: Nnanji



I'm not sure that you aren't missing the point that the lefts justification is racism, not dysfunctional government.


Actually the arguments that are favored by liberals in the US are:

Because of guns
Racism
The Republicans (even when the flat out steal a republican idea and brand it as their own)

There is a cure, however, but it would mean teaching the american people how to think originally instead of some dickheaded hack telling them what to think from some news set on some fucking network, and that applies to both sides of the fucking aisle.

However, germane to the conversation at the point it was stated, racism was the topic.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/22/2017 9:20:38 AM)

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By doing this you deprive both of freedom of speech because they disrupt each others speeches.

Wrong. The government has no right to prevent private citizens from disrupting or interfering with you exercising your right to free speech. Read the fucking Constitution rather than making up airy-fairy bullshit to excuse the trampling of your rights by all levels of government.



BamaD -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/22/2017 10:52:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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By doing this you deprive both of freedom of speech because they disrupt each others speeches.

Wrong. The government has no right to prevent private citizens from disrupting or interfering with you exercising your right to free speech. Read the fucking Constitution rather than making up airy-fairy bullshit to excuse the trampling of your rights by all levels of government.

So you think that the Constitution guarantees the right to deprive people of their right to free speech, and protects their use of illegal tactics to do so?
That requires a ridiculous reading. Remember, as opposed to your interpretation, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, your reading says that the only people who have a right to be heard are those with the strongest gang.



BamaD -> RE: Okay, if statues of southern gererals are promoting racism... (8/22/2017 10:53:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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By doing this you deprive both of freedom of speech because they disrupt each others speeches.

Wrong. The government has no right to prevent private citizens from disrupting or interfering with you exercising your right to free speech. Read the fucking Constitution rather than making up airy-fairy bullshit to excuse the trampling of your rights by all levels of government.

The government does not guarantee a right if it allows that right to be taken away just because you have more thugs than they do.



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