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Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 5:32:48 PM   
Real0ne


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Status: offline 		Authorities say a Florida police SWAT team shot and killed an armed woman who had been threatening suicide.

The Broward County Sheriff's Office says a Sunrise Police SWAT team went to an apartment Friday where 28-year-old Kristen Ambury was armed and was threatening to kill herself.

Sheriff's spokeswoman Veda Coleman-Wright said in a press release Saturday that Ambury stopped communicating with officers, so the SWAT team entered the apartment. She says the officers encountered Ambury and shots were fired. She died at the scene. No officers were hurt.

The Sunrise police asked the sheriff's office to investigate the shooting. Coleman-Wright declined to release further details. The Sunrise police did not respond to phone and email requests for comment.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/florida-police-fatally-shoot-woman-threatening-suicide-49435522

Fucking Seriously?

How bad does this jack booted government thug shit have to get before people wake up?

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 6:32:47 PM   
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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 6:38:09 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 6:54:06 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 6:54:14 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.


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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 6:57:24 PM   
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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 7:01:18 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.


They should send you into those situations.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 7:18:45 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.

How about she seemed to be giving it up and changed her mind at the last minute deciding to take someone with her.
The story doesn't even tell us how long the stand off was.
I am not saying that happened but you asked for a possible scenario.
Something had to have happened to make the person in charge think they had to go in.
For all we know he was in a hurry to get home, not at all likely but who knows.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 7:22:03 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.

It is likely that they didn't "barge" in, more likely they were trying to keep her in one part of the house and tried to sneak up on her.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 7:26:50 PM   
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How about she seemed to be giving it up and changed her mind at the last minute deciding to take someone with her.
The story doesn't even tell us how long the stand off was.
I am not saying that happened but you asked for a possible scenario.
Something had to have happened to make the person in charge think they had to go in.
For all we know he was in a hurry to get home, not at all likely but who knows.


You forget that cops can do no right, except get shot and/or die to some people.

Waiting for the facts of the case is too boring. More fun to make it up as you go.


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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 7:29:27 PM   
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How about she seemed to be giving it up and changed her mind at the last minute deciding to take someone with her.
The story doesn't even tell us how long the stand off was.
I am not saying that happened but you asked for a possible scenario.
Something had to have happened to make the person in charge think they had to go in.
For all we know he was in a hurry to get home, not at all likely but who knows.


You forget that cops can do no right, except get shot and/or die to some people.

Waiting for the facts of the case is too boring. More fun to make it up as you go.


Yes, I know.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:06:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Suicide by cops" seems to be a growing trend. If she was armed and refused to put down her weapon, then they would of course have just cause to shoot. If she was truly suicidal, that would certainly be a quick, "not really suicide" way to go.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:10:16 PM   
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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:12:36 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.

It is likely that they didn't "barge" in, more likely they were trying to keep her in one part of the house and tried to sneak up on her.

huh?

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:12:50 PM   
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the last thing they would ever think of is to bring in a psychologist to try and talk her down, she was danger to no one but herself.

We don't know that didn't happen. The force almost certainly has someone who does only that.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:15:31 PM   
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How about she seemed to be giving it up and changed her mind at the last minute deciding to take someone with her.
The story doesn't even tell us how long the stand off was.
I am not saying that happened but you asked for a possible scenario.
Something had to have happened to make the person in charge think they had to go in.
For all we know he was in a hurry to get home, not at all likely but who knows.


You forget that cops can do no right, except get shot and/or die to some people.

Waiting for the facts of the case is too boring. More fun to make it up as you go.



Im sure they are diligently working to make sure th4ey have their 'plausible' story straight and or edit their cam records.



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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:19:35 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.

It is likely that they didn't "barge" in, more likely they were trying to keep her in one part of the house and tried to sneak up on her.

huh?

Keep her talking out a front window and snek in the back way for example.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:28:58 PM   
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this is rich:

When communication with Ambury stopped at about 7:30 p.m., authorities tried to enter the apartment to ensure she hadn’t harmed herself.

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:36:25 PM   
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it was an apartment complex

this is rich:

When communication with Ambury stopped at about 7:30 p.m., authorities tried to enter the apartment to ensure she hadn’t harmed herself.

Should they have waited for the smell?

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RE: Police shoot and kill woman threatening suicide. - 8/26/2017 8:44:19 PM   
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How does that make any sense? How is that justified?

We have no idea what happened. Maybe we should find out before passing judgement.

That’s true. You are quite correct. We were not there. But hypothetically, can you imagine any scenario that would justify SWAT team or whatever it was barging into that poor woman’s apartment? Was she a menace to society? If not, how can we justify the action of the police? Hypothetically, of course, until we have gotten the full report on what happened.

Well, since you did ask, suicide by cop comes to mind. I hope a metal health professional was present. As to the SWAT team, that's who makes entries into confined places that hold armed people.

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