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I see you totally avoided the question, before I go any further with you, I want you to answer the question. If you don't, I'm not going to bother going further with you.

The question: If right wingers acted the exact same as antifa except they are on the right, not left, are they still fascists? For example, right wingers being violent against others for simply having a different opinion.

Until you answer that question, we can progress furtherin this discussion.

If its fascism if right wingers do it, its fascism when left wingers do it.

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

An intetesting read.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/08/03/fascist-roots-american-left/amp/

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

The question: If right wingers acted the exact same as antifa except they are on the right, not left, are they still fascists?

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For example, right wingers being violent against others for simply having a different opinion.

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An intetesting read.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/08/03/fascist-roots-american-left/amp/

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

As leftists aren't facists for attacking others with a different opinion, I can only assume that the right isn't neither when they do the same.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

As leftists aren't facists for attacking others with a different opinion, I can only assume that the right isn't neither when they do the same.

Seriously - do you think that if you keep saying that, it'll eventually somehow make sense?

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

As leftists aren't facists for attacking others with a different opinion, I can only assume that the right isn't neither when they do the same.

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1 often capitalized :  a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by adictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2:  a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

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Opposing facists is not "attacking others with a different opinion". Retard. 

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The actions of inflicting violence onto others for having a different point of view.

I want your honest answer, peon, if that's possible. I know you are intellectually dishonest a lot of the time though.

If right wingers acted the same as antifa, what would they be, peon? Are they fascists? If so, why. If not, why?

If right wingers acted the same against their opponents as antifa acts against theirs, there is no doubt in my mind that leftists would be squealing "facsist"!

It's like saying if a leftist kills someone, it isn't murder. It's only murder when a right winger kills someone. That's the type of wacky logic you get from the left.

This is the same species of dribble as your now-famous 'feminism is what feminists do'. 'Intellectual dishonesty', my arse. I've only ever been accused of that by one or two certifiable fruitcakes here. You crack me up!

Where are you going with this 'reasoning' of yours, RM?

If right wingers - actually you mean ultra-right-wingers, of course, because nobody's said all right wingers are Nazis or even close - acted the same as their opponents - by which ... not argue for the subordination of other races, not aim guns at them, not drive cars into them, for instance? What are you getting at?

Tell me, RM: all those Allied soldiers who fought the Germans in WW2 - were they Nazis, because they used most of the same fighting tactics as the Nazis themselves? People of opposing sides will often act the same way, on the basis of the belief that you have to fight fire with fire.

Fascism is an ideology. It makes no sense to define some political ideology or another on the basis of people's actions alone and in a way that's divorced from their ideas. The clue is in the words 'idea' and 'ideology' having the same root.

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So, retard, can you give one single example where antifa are attacking fascists? What I mean by this, the people who they attack, is there any evidence at all that they are fascists?

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

https://medium.com/@Charlie_Wilson/fascism-is-a-left-wing-ideology-867602bf1154

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proudmisogynist
An intetesting read.

http://dailysignal.com/2017/08/03/fascist-roots-american-left/amp/

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ORIGINAL: proudmisogynist

As leftists aren't facists for attacking others with a different opinion, I can only assume that the right isn't neither when they do the same.

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Has Google, the world’s most popular search engine, changed the definition of the word “fascism” to protect liberal mobs using violence to silence those who disagree with them politically? The evidence suggest they have.

You see it on signs at every protest or riot — liberals accuse President Donald Trump of being a fascist. The word’s association with Adolf Hitler and its use now is no accident, it’s meant to strike fear in people’s hearts of tyranny.

Merriam-Webster defines the word “fascism” as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The secondary definition is “a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.”

This definition reflects the fact that Nazis were, in fact, both fascists and of the political left. They were the “National Socialist German Workers Party,” which favored a heavy-handed government in business and the personal lives of its citizens.

The authoritarian government of Nazi Germany not only oppressed opposing political views and used violence to enforce it, they supported a powerful central government which heaped social benefits on its citizens. The second part of Nazism is the “socialist” part, which is very similar to what the modern American political left advocates. For all their bluster to the contrary, Hitler was a man of the extreme left, and so was fellow fascist and Axis Powers member Benito Mussolini.

But if you type the word into Google, the definition they provide is quite different.

The world’s largest search engine pins fascism on the political right, not the left.

Google defines fascism as, “an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” (emphasis added)

The secondary definition is, “(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.”

That’s a striking difference from how the word has been defined for decades.

Political conservatives advocate for small, less intrusive government where power rests with the states and individuals, and the federal government lives within its Constitutional restraints. Progressive liberals advocate for just the opposite: a powerful central government with authority vested in a strong leader who has the ability to impose decrees from Washington on everything from health care to education.

Google curiously adds “right-wing” to its definition and omits the “severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition” part.

By the traditional Merriam-Webster definition of “severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition,” the violent mobs protesting and rioting over President Trump’s actions are the ones engaging in fascistic tactics.

The exact reason Google has changed the definition of fascism to reflect on the political right rather than the left is unknown. However, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, one of the world’s richest men, has been a vocal critic of President Trump, an activist liberal, and has protested the President’s executive order on immigration.

Many members of the mainstream media have unquestioningly adopted the new Google meaning without explaining why, leaving their audience with the impression that speech or advocacy contrary to liberal orthodoxy is fascistic when, by definition, it is not.