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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 3:53:06 PM   
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from a post I had back in February:

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Has Google, the world’s most popular search engine, changed the definition of the word “fascism” to protect liberal mobs using violence to silence those who disagree with them politically? The evidence suggest they have.

You see it on signs at every protest or riot — liberals accuse President Donald Trump of being a fascist. The word’s association with Adolf Hitler and its use now is no accident, it’s meant to strike fear in people’s hearts of tyranny.

Merriam-Webster defines the word “fascism” as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The secondary definition is “a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.”

This definition reflects the fact that Nazis were, in fact, both fascists and of the political left. They were the “National Socialist German Workers Party,” which favored a heavy-handed government in business and the personal lives of its citizens.

The authoritarian government of Nazi Germany not only oppressed opposing political views and used violence to enforce it, they supported a powerful central government which heaped social benefits on its citizens. The second part of Nazism is the “socialist” part, which is very similar to what the modern American political left advocates. For all their bluster to the contrary, Hitler was a man of the extreme left, and so was fellow fascist and Axis Powers member Benito Mussolini.

But if you type the word into Google, the definition they provide is quite different.

The world’s largest search engine pins fascism on the political right, not the left.

Google defines fascism as, “an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” (emphasis added)

The secondary definition is, “(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.”

That’s a striking difference from how the word has been defined for decades.

Political conservatives advocate for small, less intrusive government where power rests with the states and individuals, and the federal government lives within its Constitutional restraints. Progressive liberals advocate for just the opposite: a powerful central government with authority vested in a strong leader who has the ability to impose decrees from Washington on everything from health care to education.

Google curiously adds “right-wing” to its definition and omits the “severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition” part.

By the traditional Merriam-Webster definition of “severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition,” the violent mobs protesting and rioting over President Trump’s actions are the ones engaging in fascistic tactics.

The exact reason Google has changed the definition of fascism to reflect on the political right rather than the left is unknown. However, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, one of the world’s richest men, has been a vocal critic of President Trump, an activist liberal, and has protested the President’s executive order on immigration.

Many members of the mainstream media have unquestioningly adopted the new Google meaning without explaining why, leaving their audience with the impression that speech or advocacy contrary to liberal orthodoxy is fascistic when, by definition, it is not.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/


From a post I make today.



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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 3:53:15 PM   
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That is a glorious lie...
Google didnt change anything.
OED online espouses the same....
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/fascism
And has done since before I went to school.
Stop fucking lying.


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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 3:55:29 PM   
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FR to the OP.

Nicky, your constant whining and absolute refusal to take responsibility for your own actions are giving a bad name to people who post here and ARE conservative.

QUIT BEING A LITTLE BITCH

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 3:59:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

from a post I had back in February:

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Has Google, the world’s most popular search engine, changed the definition of the word “fascism” to protect liberal mobs using violence to silence those who disagree with them politically? The evidence suggest they have.

You see it on signs at every protest or riot — liberals accuse President Donald Trump of being a fascist. The word’s association with Adolf Hitler and its use now is no accident, it’s meant to strike fear in people’s hearts of tyranny.

Merriam-Webster defines the word “fascism” as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The secondary definition is “a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.”

This definition reflects the fact that Nazis were, in fact, both fascists and of the political left. They were the “National Socialist German Workers Party,” which favored a heavy-handed government in business and the personal lives of its citizens.

The authoritarian government of Nazi Germany not only oppressed opposing political views and used violence to enforce it, they supported a powerful central government which heaped social benefits on its citizens. The second part of Nazism is the “socialist” part, which is very similar to what the modern American political left advocates. For all their bluster to the contrary, Hitler was a man of the extreme left, and so was fellow fascist and Axis Powers member Benito Mussolini.

But if you type the word into Google, the definition they provide is quite different.

The world’s largest search engine pins fascism on the political right, not the left.

Google defines fascism as, “an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” (emphasis added)

The secondary definition is, “(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.”

That’s a striking difference from how the word has been defined for decades.

Political conservatives advocate for small, less intrusive government where power rests with the states and individuals, and the federal government lives within its Constitutional restraints. Progressive liberals advocate for just the opposite: a powerful central government with authority vested in a strong leader who has the ability to impose decrees from Washington on everything from health care to education.

Google curiously adds “right-wing” to its definition and omits the “severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition” part.

By the traditional Merriam-Webster definition of “severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition,” the violent mobs protesting and rioting over President Trump’s actions are the ones engaging in fascistic tactics.

The exact reason Google has changed the definition of fascism to reflect on the political right rather than the left is unknown. However, Google co-founder Sergey Brin, one of the world’s richest men, has been a vocal critic of President Trump, an activist liberal, and has protested the President’s executive order on immigration.

Many members of the mainstream media have unquestioningly adopted the new Google meaning without explaining why, leaving their audience with the impression that speech or advocacy contrary to liberal orthodoxy is fascistic when, by definition, it is not.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/




I have no comment regarding the way that the definitions may or may not have changed. But I can point out that associating fascism with the right did not originate with Google, nor is it a new phenomenon.

From Safire's New Political Dictionary (1993), by William Safire (he was for many years the New York Times Magazine "On Language" columnist):
fascist originally, a believer in the corporate state; now a derogation imputing totalitarianism to the far right.
Fascio is the Italian word for "bundle" or "group"; in 1895 a political organization called itself fasci dei lavoratori, and in 1915 the fascio interventista were called the fascisti. The movement grew in the early twenties as an especially brutal alternative to Communism, and under Benito Mussolini, controlled Italy from 1922 to 1943.
In current use [still from the 1993 source], the word is an epithet directed often from the far left toward anyone on the right . . .

The American Heritage Dictionary 1976
Fascism:
A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with a belligerent nationalism.


1970 Webster New Twentieth Century Dictionary :
fascism
1. The doctrines, methods, or movement of the Fascisti.
2. a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of the opposition (unions, other, especially leftist parties, minority groups, etc.) the retention of private ownership of the means of production under centralized government control, belligerent nationalism and racism, glorification of war, etc.: first instituted in Italy in 1922.
3. (a) the political philosophy and movement based n such doctrines and policies; (b) fascist behavior. See also Nazism.


https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/was-the-dictionary-definition-of-fascism-changed-by-usa.3535/





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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 4:50:15 PM   
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oh no lucy, townhall!

"Violence Next Time"

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Does hatred and violence reside only on the far right, as the media seems to be spinning things? Consider this personal anecdote.

Late last year I was attending a board dinner for the American Legislative Exchange Council in Pittsburgh. ALEC represents conservative state legislators around the country. The left hates ALEC because it promotes conservative reforms to state government and challenges the public-sector unions.

In the middle of our meal we were jolted by shouting, shrieking and banging. Shortly thereafter about 25 left-wing activists pushed past a security guard and stormed into the room. I don't know if they were organized by unions or radical antifa groups.

They were mostly young, angry and thuggish. They began throwing things at us and swearing. They surrounded us in a menacing and intimidating way. I confess to having been very frightened. We were outnumbered, and they seemed unhinged.

Thankfully, the security reinforcements finally showed up, but when they tried to escort these protesters from our private dinner, they became indignant and started kicking and shoving while hissing things like: "Get away from me, you (expletive) fascist." Of course they have a right to free speech and assembly, but not a right to trespass on private property.

During the campaign season, I attended many Donald Trump rallies across the country. It wasn't uncommon for fights and brawls to break out when protesters showed up. In most, but not all, cases -- there are nut cases on both sides -- the left instigated the violence. I saw it with my own two eyes.

Now, in the wake of Charlottesville, the media and the left are preposterously accusing not just the nitwit white supremacists but also Trump, conservatives and Trump supporters of being racists and bigots. If you don't renounce any association with Trump, you, too, are morally inferior.

So the left really does believe that Trump voters are "deplorable" people.

Ironically, many of these same media mavens and political commentators spent the last decade bemoaning the degradation of political discourse.

If you can paint all your political adversaries -- who disagree with you on tax cuts, Confederate statues and the minimum wage -- as Nazi-sympathizers or white supremacists, then you can justify shutting them up or shutting them down through intimidation and violence.

Many left-wing publications aren't condemning violent acts by liberal protesters; they're excusing them as a "practical" response to Trumpism.

All of this, I fear, will be manifested in the months ahead in some very unhealthy and dangerous developments. Here are my predictions:

The shameful war on free speech and open debate on college campuses will intensify. Those on the right will be shut down. The closing of the American mind will get worse.

We may see more militancy from antifa groups, who have been emboldened by the media. These groups will become increasingly aggressive in their political tactics. People with a Trump T-shirt or a "Make America Great Again" hat are going to get humiliated or beat up.

Next, the demands from the grievance lobby on the left will grow increasingly ridiculous and outlandish. Will taking every Confederate statue in America satisfy the left? Of course not. The demands will never end.

All of America -- not just college campuses, news rooms and the public square -- will be declared a "safe space," granting liberals a de facto right to never be offended by hearing a viewpoint contrary to their own.

Don't be surprised if we see routine acts of violence and mayhem and shootings that will make the 1960s riots look like a picnic. The country will be ripped apart. The media will then throw up their hands and hypocritically say: "Gee, whoever thought someone would actually shoot a congressman?"

The other day on CNN I noted that Robert E. Lee was revered by many Southerners and that taking down statues of him was a bad idea. I was inundated with hate mail and even threats of physical injury.

It's ugly and dangerous out there. For decades the left has preached the need for tolerance, but now they want to use their own force or the power of the state to silence any voice that disrupts their worldview.

The shame of all this is that if liberals had simply ignored the wacko white supremacists who gathered in Charlottesville, Virginia, and who represent perhaps 0.01 percent of the conservative movement, their flame of hatred would have burned out quickly and quietly. Love would have triumphed.

That's the last thing the left wanted. They gave the wackos on the right a media platform so that militants on the left would have their own soapbox and spotlight.

So just who is spreading a message of hate in America?


the left.

https://townhall.com/columnists/stephenmoore/2017/09/05/violence-next-time-n2377049

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 4:55:56 PM   
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From a biased right wing site, yes, I can believe every word, but you are still lying, and ignoring the TRUTH

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/5/2017 5:40:13 PM   
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here, this is precious:

"Public School Teachers Behind Violent Antifa Group"

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Public school teachers are behind a leading far-left militant group that is part of the Antifa network that federal officials say is committing “domestic terrorist violence.”

By Any Means Necessary, which has played a key role in riots in Berkeley, Sacramento and elsewhere, has dozens of public school teachers among its members, including among its most prominent leaders.

The FBI and Department of Homeland Security began paying closer attention to Antifa groups in general after BAMN and other extremists started a riot and attacked marchers at a white nationalist rally in Sacramento last July, Politico reported on Friday. The Sacramento violence left at least 10 people hospitalized, several of whom had knife wounds.

One of BAMN’s most prominent organizers is Yvette Felarca, a Berkeley middle school teacher and pro-violence militant. Felarca currently faces charges of inciting a riot for her role in the Sacramento violence.

After BAMN and other antifa groups staged violent protests in Berkeley to keep right-wing author Milo Yiannopoulos from speaking, Felarca defended her group’s acts of violence. BAMN was able to cancel another event, this time an April speech by pro-Trump author Ann Coulter, by promising a repeat performance of the Milo riots. (RELATED: ‘INFERNO’ — Milo Speech Cancelled After Rioters Set Campus Ablaze [VIDEO])

The FBI and DHS say Antifa groups like BAMN are engaging in “domestic terrorist violence,” according to the Politico report.

Just last weekend, Felarca helped organize BAMN’s mass demonstrations that “shut down” an anti-Marxism rally in Berkeley. As with BAMN’s other organized actions, left-wing actors at Saturday’s demonstrations violently attacked peaceful protesters. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi condemned the Antifa violence in Berkeley, while Felarca called BAMN’s actions a “resounding success.”

BAMN’s members appear to be mixing their far-left activism with their roles as teachers. (RELATED: Documents Tie Berkeley Riot Organizers To Pro-Pedophilia Group)

BAMN organizer and high school teacher Nicole Conaway organized a “sickout” at her school in 2015, leading other teachers in calling in sick to protest the policies of Republican Gov. Rick Snyder. The sickout forced six Detroit-area schools to cancel classes, affecting nearly 4,000 students.

One month later, Conaway led students in a school walkout protesting poor building conditions. She was one of three BAMN organizers arrested in connection with the protest. Other BAMN members have led similar protests at the schools where they teach.

In Berkeley, Felarca and other BAMN members repeatedly abused their positions of influence over students in service of their own radical goals, Berkeley’s public school district charged in court filings obtained by local news organization Berkeleyside.

Despite repeated warnings, the district said Felarca continued to try to recruit students into her radical organization, including during work hours. The leftist teacher frequently tried to bring students on school-sponsored trips to BAMN-related activities, the district said, describing the trips as attempts to “indoctrinate” the students.

The school district accused Felarca and other BAMN members of weaponizing students to derail disciplinary hearings for Felarca, after student protesters repeatedly swarmed into the disciplinary hearings. The school district claimed that Felarca and other BAMN members “were actively trying to brainwash and manipulate” students to serve her “own selfish interests,” calling her conduct “particularly reprehensible.” Felarca continues teaching today.

Oakland Technical High School teacher and BAMN member Tania Kappner worked with Felarca this past January to organize students and teachers in a walkout in protesting Trump. Kappner was identified in the media as a BAMN member as early as 2011.

BAMN is active within both the National Education Association — the nation’s largest teacher’s union — as well as with local and regional teacher’s unions in Michigan and California.

Last year, 17 different BAMN members ran for elected positions on the Detroit Federation of Teachers, according to a newsletter sent out by the DFT. BAMN also ran five candidates for different national leadership positions with the NEA in 2017.

When the Berkeley school district suspended Felarca for her violent activism in 2016 (for which she was charged with inciting a riot), the local teacher’s union sued the school on Felarca’s behalf.

In January 2015, BAMN organizer Steve Conn was elected president of the Detroit Federation of Teachers. The DFT’s executive board charged Conn with misconduct later that year and removed him from office.

Conn and his wife, former teacher Heather Miller, were fired back in 2007 after leading a student protest that resulted in students being pepper sprayed. The couple sued and got their jobs back, in addition to a $300,000 settlement. Conn continues teaching today at Western High School.

BAMN was founded by the Revolutionary Workers League, an openly Marxist organization, in 1995.

As TheDC first reported in April, internal documents from the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) tie BAMN to NAMBLA., reveal the RWL — BAMN’s parent organization — worked with NAMBLA in the years just before the communist group founded BAMN.

One of BAMN’s founding members is on record identifying as a NAMBLA member, calling the pro-pedophilia group the victim of a “witch-hunt.” (Read TheDC’s full story on the ties between NAMBLA and BAMN here.)


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/public-school-teachers-behind-violent-antifa-group/


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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 5:26:31 AM   
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This thread has become an excellent example of how the looney right uses 'alternative facts' to destroy the truth, to reinforce their ideological biases and promote their own ideologically driven crap.

The long- and universally-accepted wisdom is that fascism is a right wing phenomenon. Just to mention a few of the reasons to support this view, it is supported by the historical record, the ideological contradictions between fascism and any left wing ideology worthy of the title, the universal often violent antagonism between fascist movements and leftist movements, the ruthless suppression of leftists by fascists when in power (and vice versa) and just about every respected and unbiased political scientist and analyst everywhere.

However this isn't enough to persuade our looney right friends, who dislike being correctly associated with fascists because of the ideological overlap between far right ideologies and fascism. So armed with falsehoods and outright lies 'alternative facts' supplied by such previously unheard ofauthoritative, universally despised sources as 'The Daily Caller or the 'townhall' website, they try to advance the utterly deranged claim that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Displaying astonishing levels of chutzpah, abysmally low levels of self consciousness and blatant disregard for the truth, they dismiss the mountains of evidence contradicting their fact-free insane claims as 'biased' and 'ideologically driven'. And despite repeated demonstrations of how factually wrong their claim is, or innumerable invitations to review the mountains of evidence from respected unbiased sources that contradict their claims, they remain doggedly intransigent in their refusal to accept a reality that flatly disproves and completely contradicts their nonsense.

You really have to have a sneaking admiration for the diligence and tenacity they put into ensuring that the looney part of looney right is fully justified and 100% accurate. If only their efforts were spent in a remotely intelligent cause ....


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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 5:30:00 AM   
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This thread has become an excellent example of how the looney right uses 'alternative facts' to destroy the truth, to reinforce their ideological biases and promote their own ideologically driven crap.

The long- and universally-accepted wisdom is that fascism is a right wing phenomenon. Just to mention a few of the reasons to support this view, it is supported by the historical record, the ideological contradictions between fascism and any left wing ideology worthy of the title, the universal often violent antagonism between fascist movements and leftist movements, the ruthless suppression of leftists by fascists when in power (and vice versa) and just about every respected and unbiased political scientist and analyst everywhere.

However this isn't enough to persuade our looney right friends, who dislike being correctly associated with fascists because of the ideological overlap between far right ideologies and fascism. So armed with falsehoods and outright lies 'alternative facts' supplied by such previously unheard ofauthoritative, universally despised sources as 'The Daily Caller or the 'townhall' website, they try to advance the utterly deranged claim that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Displaying astonishing levels of chutzpah, abysmally low levels of self consciousness and blatant disregard for the truth, they dismiss the mountains of evidence contradicting their fact-free insane claims as 'biased' and 'ideologically driven'. And despite repeated demonstrations of how factually wrong their claim is, or innumerable invitations to review the mountains of evidence from respected unbiased sources that contradict their claims, they remain doggedly intransigent in their refusal to accept a reality that flatly disproves and completely contradicts their nonsense.

You really have to have a sneaking admiration for the diligence and tenacity they put into ensuring that the looney part of looney right is fully justified and 100% accurate. If only their efforts were spent in a remotely intelligent cause ....


Just wait until they start insisting that fascism is actually a purely leftist phenomenon because the Nazis used the word 'socialist" in their party title. We get that one a lot in here, don't we?

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 5:36:16 AM   
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...because ONLY the left are in possession of "facts" and get to determine reality (never mind we're talking about interpretations, as opposed to facts).

or is it they self-justify until the cows come home and blithely denigrate anything/anyone whose understanding ultimately is a heavy critique on their own narrative.

im going with the latter.

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 5:41:53 AM   
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NO. Because just about everyone except the looney Right knows that this fallacy is a fallacy and nothing more than ideologically driven nonsense. It's not just the left, it's also the centre and saner voices on the Right that all rubbish the demented gibberish that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Can you find one respected independent political scientist that advances this nonsense? Just one ...???

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 5:51:46 AM   
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NO. Because just about everyone except the looney Right knows that this fallacy is a fallacy and nothing more than ideologically driven nonsense. It's not just the left, it's also the centre and saner voices on the Right that all rubbish the demented gibberish that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Can you find one respected independent political scientist that advances this nonsense? Just one ...???


Amusing how all the while you scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch that you are

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 5:52:55 AM   
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The problem here is that people do not understand what right wing and left wing actually mean in the political context. A right wing ideology is one that holds that social hierarchies are unavoidable and/or desirable. A left wing ideology is one that holds that social hierarchies are both undesirable and preventable.
Therefore, fascism is very much a right wing ideology.

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 6:29:51 AM   
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NO. Because just about everyone except the looney Right knows that this fallacy is a fallacy and nothing more than ideologically driven nonsense. It's not just the left, it's also the centre and saner voices on the Right that all rubbish the demented gibberish that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Can you find one respected independent political scientist that advances this nonsense? Just one ...???


Amusing how all the while you scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch that you are

Wow! This is from the person who obstinately defended the "good people" among the racists, KKK and neo-Nazi thugs at Charlottesville ... the person who endlessly complains about others using ad hom attacks on him ...

Pointing out the truth becomes in Boscospeak: "scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch". Needless to add that Bosco is just as impotent as bounty44 when it comes to finding an independent respected political scientist anywhere who supports the looney Right's demented claim that fascism is a leftist phenomenon. And unable to produce any evidence or argument to support the deranged claim, he resorts to vicious personal abuse ...

I wish I could say that I am surprised and disappointed but that would be a lie. This is Bosco's SOP, so I am anything but surprised. As for disappointed: why would anyone expect anything from a pig except a grunt?

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 6:32:45 AM   
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NO. Because just about everyone except the looney Right knows that this fallacy is a fallacy and nothing more than ideologically driven nonsense. It's not just the left, it's also the centre and saner voices on the Right that all rubbish the demented gibberish that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Can you find one respected independent political scientist that advances this nonsense? Just one ...???


Amusing how all the while you scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch that you are

Wow! This is from the person who obstinately defended the "good people" among the racists, KKK and neo-Nazi thugs at Charlottesville ... the person who endlessly complains about others using ad hom attacks on him ...

Pointing out the truth becomes in Boscospeak: "scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch". Needless to add that Bosco is just as impotent as bounty44 when it comes to finding an independent respected political scientist anywhere who supports the looney Right's demented claim that fascism is a leftist phenomenon. And unable to produce any evidence or argument to support the deranged claim resorts to vicious personal abuse ...

I wish I could say that I am surprised and disappointed but that would be a lie. This is Bosco's SOP, so I am anything but surprised. As for disappointed: why would anyone expect anything from a pig except a grunt?


Pure lies and straw man stupidity

A fascist spewing hateful propaganda, just as fascists so commonly do

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NO. Because just about everyone except the looney Right knows that this fallacy is a fallacy and nothing more than ideologically driven nonsense. It's not just the left, it's also the centre and saner voices on the Right that all rubbish the demented gibberish that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Can you find one respected independent political scientist that advances this nonsense? Just one ...???


Amusing how all the while you scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch that you are

Wow! This is from the person who obstinately defended the "good people" among the racists, KKK and neo-Nazi thugs at Charlottesville ... the person who endlessly complains about others using ad hom attacks on him ...

Pointing out the truth becomes in Boscospeak: "scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch". Needless to add that Bosco is just as impotent as bounty44 when it comes to finding an independent respected political scientist anywhere who supports the looney Right's demented claim that fascism is a leftist phenomenon. And unable to produce any evidence or argument to support the deranged claim, he resorts to vicious personal abuse ...

I wish I could say that I am surprised and disappointed but that would be a lie. This is Bosco's SOP, so I am anything but surprised. As for disappointed: why would anyone expect anything from a pig except a grunt?

Would you agree that there were good people who didn't like the Klan?
Wouldn't you also agree that there were good people who don't want history destroyed?
Would you also agree that those 2 groups also outnumbered the thugs on both sides"
The thugs agree with you that everyone there was with one group of thugs.
Anyone not committing violence against them was (in there minds) in total agreement with them. want them dead.

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/6/2017 10:56:45 AM   
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Would you agree that there were good people who didn't like the Klan?

Then why were they marching with the Klan?
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Wouldn't you also agree that there were good people who don't want history destroyed?

No, see, statues are not history.

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/7/2017 1:37:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

NO. Because just about everyone except the looney Right knows that this fallacy is a fallacy and nothing more than ideologically driven nonsense. It's not just the left, it's also the centre and saner voices on the Right that all rubbish the demented gibberish that fascism is a leftist phenomenon.

Can you find one respected independent political scientist that advances this nonsense? Just one ...???


Amusing how all the while you scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch that you are

Wow! This is from the person who obstinately defended the "good people" among the racists, KKK and neo-Nazi thugs at Charlottesville ... the person who endlessly complains about others using ad hom attacks on him ...

Pointing out the truth becomes in Boscospeak: "scream your vile puke you howl just like the fascist bitch". Needless to add that Bosco is just as impotent as bounty44 when it comes to finding an independent respected political scientist anywhere who supports the looney Right's demented claim that fascism is a leftist phenomenon. And unable to produce any evidence or argument to support the deranged claim, he resorts to vicious personal abuse ...

I wish I could say that I am surprised and disappointed but that would be a lie. This is Bosco's SOP, so I am anything but surprised. As for disappointed: why would anyone expect anything from a pig except a grunt?

Would you agree that there were good people who didn't like the Klan?
Wouldn't you also agree that there were good people who don't want history destroyed?
Would you also agree that those 2 groups also outnumbered the thugs on both sides"
The thugs agree with you that everyone there was with one group of thugs.
Anyone not committing violence against them was (in there minds) in total agreement with them. want them dead.

"Good people" do not attend marches organised by self declared neo-Nazis, fascists and racist thugs.
"Good people" do not attend marches organised by fascists under the slogan "Unite the Right". Note: the aim of the march was to unite the looney Right, not to preserve "history" or heritage.
If people are interested in preserving their heritage, then they support marches with that purpose, not marches whose self proclaimed intention is to unite the looney right.

Good people do not place themselves within a bull's roar of neo-Nazis, KKK and racist thugs. Anyone who publicly supports marches organised by neo-Nazis, KKK and racist thugs automatically loses any right to be considered a 'good person'. Good people have more sense and more self respect than to be seen in public with such lowlife scum.


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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/7/2017 2:03:12 AM   
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Good people are tolerant of those with differing views.
Good people don't go about masking their identity.
Good people don't use improvised flame throwers and crowbars against those they disagree with.
Good people don't stand by and allow others to do so.

Obviously there were no good people at all.

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RE: George Orwell Would Have Supported Antifa' - 9/7/2017 3:21:15 AM   
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Good people are tolerant of those with differing views.


They weren't in 1939 - and thank God for that.

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