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DesideriScuri -> RE: US scraps young undocumented immigrants scheme (9/6/2017 5:29:29 PM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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They are here illegally. Fuck the bullshit about "Christian precepts" unless you are willing to apply that same idea across the board. Be careful how you respond to that one. It doesn't matter how old they were when they got here. They are here illegally. It doesn't matter what our population growth rate is.
Of course, age matters. It is a well-established principle in our jurisprudence. Otherwise, why do we have juvenile detention centers for young offenders rather than sending them to the big boys’ jail? And especially we do not hold a child of six years to have agency under our jurisprudence. If a child at that age were to take a loaded gun from his parents dresser and mortally wound his brother, would you demand the death penalty for that child? Would you even demand a sentence in jail for that child? I doubt that you would. Saying that age does not matter is one of the silliest thing I have seen on these boards (then you need to read more bullshit on these boards).
Then who are we to blame? Do we not deport the kids along with the illegal family members? Are you going to support them being wards of the state and tearing families apart? Of course you're not. You're going to support the idea that "they're here, make 'em legal" which is counter to our immigration laws, isn't it? Send "Dreamers" back along with their illegal parents. Preserve the family!
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We can't just ignore the laws we don't like, can we?
President Obama did not ignore the law. He took action despite it. Blind obedience to a law that you don’t like is cowardly behavior. We are not a nation of robots running on algorithms. That was well demonstrated by the slavery abolitionists, by the women’s protests for franchise, college students who rode buses into the South, and it will be demonstrated by the students who are affected in this latest sham.
We are a nation of laws for a reason. That reason will win out. If Congress changes the laws in this area, then that will change things, no? Congress has the power. They aren't using it. Why? Maybe we need new people in Congress.
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Decency is applying laws objectively, not subjectively.
What a terrible idea! What need do we have of judges if they cannot mitigate the harshness of laws? Jurisprudence without mercy is a bloodless cold dead fish. It inevitably deprives us of fairness, of equal protection. A primary example are the bail bond laws which deprive the poor of freedom without a trial, but that the rich free.
It's also fair and just. You're opening every law in the Country up to subjective application. That isn't a nation of laws. That's a nation of discrimination, and not the USA.
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