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Daca Dreamers: US scraps young undocumented immigrants scheme

An Obama-era scheme to protect young undocumented immigrants is being scrapped, US Attorney General Jeff Sessions has announced.

No first-time applications for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) programme will be acted on after Tuesday, the government confirmed.

However, existing recipients will not be affected for at least six months.

The scheme protected some 800,000 so-called "Dreamers", mostly Latin Americans, from deportation.

America’s President is sick in the head and thoroughly fucking disgusts me.

Is that all he does! Dismantle years of progress, this agreement, that agreement, other peoples work and hard graft and solutions, whilst coughing up not one signature piece of legislation. It’s if he has no soul and is not human.

500 000 "undocumented" home owners in Houston. I wonder what will happen to their abodes and worldly possessions. Did I also read right that only 15% of all residents had flood insurance?

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And have the spent $1 dollar on Houston yet?

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im wondering if its wickedsdesire ON medication.

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im wondering if its wickedsdesire ON medication.

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They are here illegally. Fuck the bullshit about "Christian precepts" unless you are willing to apply that same idea across the board. Be careful how you respond to that one. It doesn't matter how old they were when they got here. They are here illegally. It doesn't matter what our population growth rate is.

Of course, age matters. It is a well-established principle in our jurisprudence. Otherwise, why do we have juvenile detention centers for young offenders rather than sending them to the big boys’ jail? And especially we do not hold a child of six years to have agency under our jurisprudence. If a child at that age were to take a loaded gun from his parents dresser and mortally wound his brother, would you demand the death penalty for that child? Would you even demand a sentence in jail for that child? I doubt that you would. Saying that age does not matter is one of the silliest thing I have seen on these boards (then you need to read more bullshit on these boards).

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We can't just ignore the laws we don't like, can we?

President Obama did not ignore the law. He took action despite it. Blind obedience to a law that you don’t like is cowardly behavior. We are not a nation of robots running on algorithms. That was well demonstrated by the slavery abolitionists, by the women’s protests for franchise, college students who rode buses into the South, and it will be demonstrated by the students who are affected in this latest sham.

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Decency is applying laws objectively, not subjectively.

What a terrible idea! What need do we have of judges if they cannot mitigate the harshness of laws? Jurisprudence without mercy is a bloodless cold dead fish. It inevitably deprives us of fairness, of equal protection. A primary example are the bail bond laws which deprive the poor of freedom without a trial, but that the rich free.

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And have the spent $1 dollar on Houston yet?

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i say "ON medication" because there's been some semblance of sense in a few fleeting places.

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Ergo....EVERY person affected by DACA (and its rescission) has FOUR YEARS to resolve the issue while they wait for CONGRESS to do their job.

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It really doesnt make any sense to kick them out, they are young, they have their whole working lives ahead of them to pay taxes, etc to support aging Americans..

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It really doesnt make any sense to kick them out, they are young, they have their whole working lives ahead of them to pay taxes, etc to support aging Americans..

Bring in meth and heroin, kidnap, rape, do drive-by shootings...

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Then who are we to blame? Do we not deport the kids along with the illegal family members? Are you going to support them being wards of the state and tearing families apart? Of course you're not. You're going to support the idea that "they're here, make 'em legal" which is counter to our immigration laws, isn't it? Send "Dreamers" back along with their illegal parents. Preserve the family!

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It's also fair and just. You're opening every law in the Country up to subjective application. That isn't a nation of laws. That's a nation of discrimination, and not the USA.

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Then who are we to blame? Do we not deport the kids along with the illegal family members? Are you going to support them being wards of the state and tearing families apart? Of course you're not. You're going to support the idea that "they're here, make 'em legal" which is counter to our immigration laws, isn't it? Send "Dreamers" back along with their illegal parents. Preserve the family!

Wards of the state? For the most part the dreamers are in their 20s and 30s. Some have served in the military. Some are at University. Some have families of their own. All that are working are taxpayers. So, considering them wards of the state just doesn’t fit the reality of their status.

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It's also fair and just. You're opening every law in the Country up to subjective application. That isn't a nation of laws. That's a nation of discrimination, and not the USA.

Since you chose to ignore it, I will repeat that it is a bedrock principle of our jurisprudence that children lack agency and they cannot be held responsible in the same way or to the same degree that adults are held responsible.

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speak for yourself.

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Then who are we to blame? Do we not deport the kids along with the illegal family members? Are you going to support them being wards of the state and tearing families apart? Of course you're not. You're going to support the idea that "they're here, make 'em legal" which is counter to our immigration laws, isn't it? Send "Dreamers" back along with their illegal parents. Preserve the family!

Wards of the state? For the most part the dreamers are in their 20s and 30s. Some have served in the military. Some are at University. Some have families of their own. All that are working are taxpayers. So, considering them wards of the state just doesn’t fit the reality of their status.

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It's also fair and just. You're opening every law in the Country up to subjective application. That isn't a nation of laws. That's a nation of discrimination, and not the USA.

A law is not fair and just until it is applied to human life. Then we can make a judgment as to its equity. The law itself is is a dead paragraph in a book. It is the application of the law that determines whether justice is served.
Since you chose to ignore it, I will repeat that it is a bedrock principle of our jurisprudence that children lack agency and they cannot be held responsible in the same way or to the same degree that adults are held responsible. That is the point in which we see whether our immigration laws can be applied with justice.

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Unless of course you're white. Then you are responsible for everything your ancesters did.

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