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Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 5:58:45 AM   
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I have no problem with this. If you were taking your children to a shelter, would you want some perv the next cot over?

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 6:36:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just saw that and was going to start a thread, but you beat me to it.
The sheriff is supposed to arrest fugitives, so this seems a way of doing so efficiently.
Especially if he is concentrating on sexual offenders and pedophiles. I wouldn't want them in shelters either.
And it's not like he isn't offering them alternative shelter, probably even with better food.
I'm just not sure I'd have announced it in advance, just quietly picked them up instead.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 6:56:42 AM   
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I just saw that and was going to start a thread, but you beat me to it.
The sheriff is supposed to arrest fugitives, so this seems a way of doing so efficiently.
Especially if he is concentrating on sexual offenders and pedophiles. I wouldn't want them in shelters either.
And it's not like he isn't offering them alternative shelter, probably even with better food.
I'm just not sure I'd have announced it in advance, just quietly picked them up instead.

Maybe he's up for re-election soon?

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 7:03:21 AM   
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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 7:10:54 AM   
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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 7:25:53 AM   
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It doesn't really matter what he does. He can violate the rights of anyone he wishes, or shoot them (only if they're black of course) harrass them, basically anythin g legal or otherwise. If he gets caught and convicted, Trump will pardon him...


So you disagree with a sheriff lawfully detaining fugitives with records of sex crimes and pedophilia, and preventing them from staying in shelters full of women and children?
You'd prefer that such criminals be given free reign?

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 7:45:38 AM   
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I just saw that and was going to start a thread, but you beat me to it.
The sheriff is supposed to arrest fugitives, so this seems a way of doing so efficiently.
Especially if he is concentrating on sexual offenders and pedophiles. I wouldn't want them in shelters either.
And it's not like he isn't offering them alternative shelter, probably even with better food.
I'm just not sure I'd have announced it in advance, just quietly picked them up instead.


That's not exactly what he said. He did say that sex offenders/predators will not be allowed [into the shelters]. But, he also mentioned people with open warrants which would encompass anyone with an open warrant, not just sex offenders/predators.

Laws have to be followed. If sex offenders/predators are disallowed - by law - from being at the shelters, then there you go. If there are no laws preventing them from being there, then you're talking about discrimination, which isn't allowed. Right?

As far as people with open warrants? Arrest them. Put them in jail. We have laws, and they need to be followed.


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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 7:58:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, if they didn't have open warrants I doubt he could legally arrest them. And I'm sure he will be very equal-opportunity-ish in terms of picking up anyone with an open warrant, but given the situation it seems like extra consideration for sex offenders and predators is just being practical.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 8:06:45 AM   
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Well, if they didn't have open warrants I doubt he could legally arrest them. And I'm sure he will be very equal-opportunity-ish in terms of picking up anyone with an open warrant, but given the situation it seems like extra consideration for sex offenders and predators is just being practical.


The mentioning of sexual offenders/predators was separate from those with open warrants. You could have served your jail sentence years ago and still be on the sex offender registry (even with no further sex crime convictions). People who are on the registry (for whatever reason) will be turned away.

Separately, anyone with an open warrant (regardless of the criminal act) will be arrested. That's what the sheriff said. They can be two separate groups.


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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 8:16:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		With regard to sexual offenders who have previously served time and been released, they commonly have restrictions placed by a judge about how closely they can associate with children. That would preclude them from legally entering a shelter even if there was no open warrant for them.That's one of the few cases where the rights of the general public are allowed to supercede the rights of an individual.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:35:25 AM   
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I have no problem with this.

I sure as fuck do, I would simply refuse to show ID. But then again, not being a slavish Yank, I actually believe in a free people.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:41:40 AM   
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I have no problem with this.

I sure as fuck do, I would simply refuse to show ID. But then again, not being a slavish Yank, I actually believe in a free people.

Noone is forcing you to stay in their shelter.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:43:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Isn't this sheriff underestimating just what it'll take to deal with Irma? From what I can make out he and his staff won't have the time or the energy to piddle around with all the checks and paperwork involved. Would there even be available connections to the computers that store the details of those on whom there are open warrants? Would there even be electricity?

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:46:33 AM   
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Isn't this sheriff underestimating just what it'll take to deal with Irma? From what I can make out he and his staff won't have the time or the energy to piddle around with all the checks and paperwork involved. Would there even be available connections to the computers that store the details of those on whom there are open warrants? Would there even be electricity?

It's an inland county out of the direct path.
That's one reason people will be sheltering there.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:51:24 AM   
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Isn't this sheriff underestimating just what it'll take to deal with Irma? From what I can make out he and his staff won't have the time or the energy to piddle around with all the checks and paperwork involved. Would there even be available connections to the computers that store the details of those on whom there are open warrants? Would there even be electricity?


Not sure what sort of portable equipment they plan to use, but I imagine they could download a PDF type file that had a listing of all the open warrants. Then you could check for names on that list without any kind of WiFi or cell connection needed. Most of us have smart phones that could handle that, at least as long as the batteries held out.

Or they could always go old school and use paper printouts listing all open warrants.

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:55:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think another aspect is that the sheriff is basically announcing that "If you're a criminal or registered sex offender or both, stay the fuck out of my county."

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 10:59:21 AM   
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I just saw that and was going to start a thread, but you beat me to it.
The sheriff is supposed to arrest fugitives, so this seems a way of doing so efficiently.
Especially if he is concentrating on sexual offenders and pedophiles. I wouldn't want them in shelters either.
And it's not like he isn't offering them alternative shelter, probably even with better food.
I'm just not sure I'd have announced it in advance, just quietly picked them up instead.


That's not exactly what he said. He did say that sex offenders/predators will not be allowed [into the shelters]. But, he also mentioned people with open warrants which would encompass anyone with an open warrant, not just sex offenders/predators.

Laws have to be followed. If sex offenders/predators are disallowed - by law - from being at the shelters, then there you go. If there are no laws preventing them from being there, then you're talking about discrimination, which isn't allowed. Right?

As far as people with open warrants? Arrest them. Put them in jail. We have laws, and they need to be followed.


Great moral/immoral dancing, there.

Anybody who questions "the law!" is . . . . what?

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 11:06:47 AM   
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I have no problem with this.

I sure as fuck do, I would simply refuse to show ID. But then again, not being a slavish Yank, I actually believe in a free people.

Noone is forcing you to stay in their shelter.

Ihre Papiere bitte

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 11:22:29 AM   
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I have no problem with this.

I sure as fuck do, I would simply refuse to show ID. But then again, not being a slavish Yank, I actually believe in a free people.

Noone is forcing you to stay in their shelter.

Ihre Papiere bitte

Danke

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RE: Sherriff says he will arrest criminals - 9/7/2017 11:59:00 AM   
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I have no problem with this.

I sure as fuck do, I would simply refuse to show ID. But then again, not being a slavish Yank, I ...



... carry a big chip on your shoulder.

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