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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/28/2006 9:37:27 PM

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hmmm...all women huh? I myself have dated bodybuilders, to one guy that was almost 300 lbs....to tall guys to guys that came just to my nipples (I'm 5'9 by the way)....I could give a crap about how they looked...the ONE thing they all have in common and the ONE thing I look at is their soul and that they actually cared about me. Kind, sweet, gentlemen....

hmmm...guess I'm not the norm...go figure.....lol

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/28/2006 9:45:03 PM

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Lable me pollitically incorrect now. I love the look of a young, thin boy. Tall or short, I like them young and pretty.
Then again I hide nothing about myself, either. You want to know, just ask. Weight is a terrible measure of someone, becasue some of us do not look our weights. Height? Im short. But thats fine with me.

As to being as attracted to a mind as you are looks is fine, if its real. Many people (not just men...people) seem to overlook a lacking personality in favor of good looks.

If someone is really weeding you out becasue of your height, instead of being insulted about that, perhaps you should be thankful that someone so shallow as to not want you simply for that reason has passed you by. In my oh so humble and personal opinion.. anyone who can put someone on a back burner without giving them at least the chance to be impressive becasue of a physical characteristic is not looking for something lasting, but probably something physical. I am sure this will get me flamed a bit, but as I said, its just my opinion. I have been saying this to men and women for years.
If all yu do is look at the physical stats and pictures, then you are not going to be what I am looking for. If you show some indication of having read my information, and thought about a response, then we may have something to talk about.

But thats just me. My 2 cents.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/28/2006 10:04:15 PM

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yes, because clearly every overweight woman HAS to be lazy, disgusting, and unhappy with herself. fuck you and the horse you rode in on :) i wouldn't necessarily say i have a heart of gold (damn, that'd be heavy), but neither am i lazy, weak-willed, unhappy with myself, or any of the things that you put out :) (by the way, i am a 36-nearly-e cup and i have a relatively slim waistline, compared to my bust and hips :) )

He was asking questions, not making statements. Questions provoke thought and discussion, statements are often not intended for discussion, and as such, are often a closed door. The OP was attempting to provoke speculation, while, it seems, some replies prefer to say, "This is my opinion and nothing you say will change it", along with a few choice derisive comments. At that point conversation and discussion on the question is impossible. Dissapointing really, because it could have been more constructive and educational.

If I must voice my opinion, I have a preference for a certain body shape for various reasons, some logical, some psychological. My personal experience has shown me that some body shapes and appearances do not appeal to me, and can cause me distress. I have also experienced that those body shapes are often accompanied by personality traits that also do not appeal to me, and they also cause me distress. The reason why we all choose certain body shapes over others is simply because we want pleasure in our relationships, not distress, and we all associate visually to our experience and emotions in those choices.

Also, please, don't assume that I'm agreeing with the OP, or disagreeing. I'm simply pointing out the facts and what my general observations have been.

Also, I should also point out that he's correct, it seems more important to be politically correct for some respondants, then to delve into potentially sensitive questions. Being PC implies that some would rather be ignorant and accepted, then informed and reviled for it.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/28/2006 11:12:49 PM

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you know the good thing about an early rejection, based on something as trite as looks? you know they ain't for you....with that in mind....bring on the rejections!!!!

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/28/2006 11:28:47 PM

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quote:

He was asking questions, not making statements. Questions provoke thought and discussion, statements are often not intended for discussion, and as such, are often a closed door.

Given his later post, I do have to disagree with you.

quote:

But I think my main point was that women ARE superficial, they're simply hypocritical about it.

By his own admission, this was his main point and it's certainly not a question. It's a gross generalization which lumps all women into the same category.

The point is really moot however, because the OP has already deleted the profile he created less than a day ago. A typical hit and run, rather trite, not very original and I'm marking this thread closed for myself as I see neither entertainment value nor nothing of educational value in a thread designed to do nothing more than bash women just for the sake of bashing women.

YMMV but I'm not wasting any more time on this one.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/28/2006 11:32:14 PM

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Sometimes they even name a height. (by the way, I am 5'10" and male, and could not care less if I am considered "tall" or "short").

These same women seem to leave out details about themselves.....such as height, weight, bust, waist, hips.

Eh this is just another version of all the fat chicks threads.

Hetero submissive females tend to prefer men who can physically and mentally overpower them- and that generally equates to being larger physically.

Obviously, there are plenty of exceptions as well. Just be yourself- anyone not interested in "your type" and will dismiss you so quickly because of it is obviously not a good match for you anyway.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 12:10:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

He was asking questions, not making statements. Questions provoke thought and discussion, statements are often not intended for discussion, and as such, are often a closed door.

Given his later post, I do have to disagree with you.

quote:

But I think my main point was that women ARE superficial, they're simply hypocritical about it.

By his own admission, this was his main point and it's certainly not a question. It's a gross generalization which lumps all women into the same category.

The point is really moot however, because the OP has already deleted the profile he created less than a day ago. A typical hit and run, rather trite, not very original and I'm marking this thread closed for myself as I see neither entertainment value nor nothing of educational value in a thread designed to do nothing more than bash women just for the sake of bashing women.

YMMV but I'm not wasting any more time on this one.

Celeste

Ahh. Well, I didn't see it as all bad. Just a mixed bag. I'm willing to concede that particular point.
I also didn't see it as entirely a 'fat chick' rant either. We all have our hypocrisies. It's like old baggage, we can't get rid of it all.

You know, I've edited this a third time, I'm pretty sure it's the last. I'm sorry I've upset anyone by what I've said, but I've got this thing about flamewars in a forum such as this. Granted. It was a troll posting, but I felt it could have been handled better without the derision. I tried to deflect it into something constructive. (The hopeless altruist in me, I suppose.) At least into something we all could learn from. <shrugs>

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 12:26:36 AM

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I'm 5ft tall. They are all tall to me.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 4:42:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: scottjk

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

He was asking questions, not making statements. Questions provoke thought and discussion, statements are often not intended for discussion, and as such, are often a closed door.

Given his later post, I do have to disagree with you.

quote:

But I think my main point was that women ARE superficial, they're simply hypocritical about it.

By his own admission, this was his main point and it's certainly not a question. It's a gross generalization which lumps all women into the same category.

The point is really moot however, because the OP has already deleted the profile he created less than a day ago. A typical hit and run, rather trite, not very original and I'm marking this thread closed for myself as I see neither entertainment value nor nothing of educational value in a thread designed to do nothing more than bash women just for the sake of bashing women.

YMMV but I'm not wasting any more time on this one.

Celeste

Ahh. Well, I didn't see it as all bad. Just a mixed bag. I'm willing to concede that particular point.
I also didn't see it as entirely a 'fat chick' rant either. We all have our hypocrisies. It's like old baggage, we can't get rid of it all.

You know, I've edited this a third time, I'm pretty sure it's the last. I'm sorry I've upset anyone by what I've said, but I've got this thing about flamewars in a forum such as this. Granted. It was a troll posting, but I felt it could have been handled better without the derision. I tried to deflect it into something constructive. (The hopeless altruist in me, I suppose.) At least into something we all could learn from. <shrugs>

Trying to turn it into something constructive was/is a good thing.

You find the good mixed in with the bad often, why not pursue it? Some good points were made, such as Dr. Farrell being a good guy, and many feminists just wishing they were lol, and how some prefer their minds closed rather than doing the work to expand them.

More to the OP; follow your likes. Beauty is a good thing, whether inner or outer. If someone derides you for pursuing a pretty woman, fuck them. Ohhh.... there goes my mind closing......

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 6:15:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: lockerinform

In don't believe that all these "strong women" who define themselves as feminists are at all interested in "equality". They are interested in grabbing whatever they can coerce society and politics into giving them. They have no interest whatsoever in the male experience of being made a victim by culture.

But I think my main point was that women ARE superficial, they're simply hypocritical about it. And not very logically, at that. Suppose I wanted a woman with big breasts, so her breasts would be bigger than my hands.....and I then went around wearing big, bulky, uncomfortable gloves to make my hands look bigger? A bit absurd, no? Yet women climb up on high heels, then bitch that the useless things hurt their feet.

Men have been making women victims since the beginning of time almost. I happen to be a feminist and all I want is equality no more no less. I want control of my own body without some government/male telling me what I can and cannot do.

I think your statement that all women are superficial is bullshit, you don't know every woman on the planet so your statement is a bit broad. I know alot of superficial males so am I to think ALL men are superficial? I think not.

The reason most women wear(and I don't I hate heels)high heels is because of fashion and the fact most men like the way their legs look in them. I wear whats comfortable to ME.

What I hear in your post is how you don't like the way that women are starting to treat men; the same way we've been treated for generations. If we whistle at your ass as you walk by we are being sexists, if we throw dollars bills at you while your stripping and try to grab a feel we are animals, if we get together. drink and watch porn with our female friends we must be sluts. When you sum it all up it doesn't feel very good does it? Feel our pain

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 6:50:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

quote:

He was asking questions, not making statements. Questions provoke thought and discussion, statements are often not intended for discussion, and as such, are often a closed door.

Given his later post, I do have to disagree with you.

quote:

But I think my main point was that women ARE superficial, they're simply hypocritical about it.

By his own admission, this was his main point and it's certainly not a question. It's a gross generalization which lumps all women into the same category.

The point is really moot however, because the OP has already deleted the profile he created less than a day ago. A typical hit and run, rather trite, not very original and I'm marking this thread closed for myself as I see neither entertainment value nor nothing of educational value in a thread designed to do nothing more than bash women just for the sake of bashing women.

YMMV but I'm not wasting any more time on this one.

Celeste

Actually, if you are going to put his words under a microscope he did not say ALL women are superficial. He said, simply, "women".
It is no more accurate to say he intended to mean ALL women than it would be to say he intended to mean MOST women. But, why ask for clarification, when you can attack someone?

Looking carefully at the entire body of what he had to say, you are merely repeating your mistake of assuming that he was making statements more than asking questions.

And, as he predicted, instead of open debate, there was a great deal of fallacious Ad Hominem attack. (Speaking of which, we notice that you also don't bother to post your weight)

Interesting to note that some of the most vicious attacks came from women who do indeed refuse to list their weights.....and look a trifle plump in their photos.

I suspect you'd have complete sympathy and approval for a short fat girl rejecting a short man because she says "I need him to be tall, so I can feel submissive and overwhelmed", but you would have nothing but vicious hate if a man said "I need her waist to be slim, so I can wrap my arm around it, and pull her down, so I can feel Dominant".

The truth can be stated by anyone. Their personal traits, or their motives in stating the truth, matter a great deal less than facing that truth calmly and honestly.

But, there will always be many cowards who heap contempt upon the little boy who cries out, "The Emperor has no clothes!"

Please educate me....how does a point become moot by someone
deleting their profile? It is the point that matters, not the person.
But you can't actually argue the point, so you insist on attacking the person. You call the OP "rather trite, not very original"----- isn't that redundant? If I were unkind, I'd not only call you stupid, but pretentious in your manner of speaking. But that would be redundant.......

Oh....and it is considered standard practice to insert a notation when you alter a quote. When you bold something in someone else's words, it is considered dishonest not to insert: "(empasis added)".

YMMV but I'm not wasting any more time on this one.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 7:20:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: SexyRed

To the OP: I guess people having PREFERENCES disturbs you. Too bad for you. I find it fascinating that most often, when you are rejected by someone, that is when you take aim at them. In your case, I suppose you are upset that ALL women have rejected you, therefore you are trying to to be provocative, but you are only succeeding in being BORING.

Seems to me you guess incorrectly. He doesn't mind people having preferences. He simply asks about the apparent disparity between what is "allowed" under the vicious fascism of Political Correctness.

Women can demand tall, but men can't demand that the women not be fat, sloppy, flabby, floppy disgusting pigs who actually get SNOTTY about being that way....

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 7:37:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

<sigh>

I'm not one much to do this, but here goes nothing.

By my reckoning, at the time of this writing you've made 4 posts, 3 of them in this thread, and all of the ones in this thread insulting in some form or another.

God, I hate being a man sometimes.

Best of luck to you. You'll fit in well here ...... for about 3 days.

Jeff

ROFL...I wish I had said that!

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 7:46:01 AM

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Ok, I haven't been posting alot lately but here goes. It has been my experience that the guys will post;" height, wt., looks unimportant, it's what's on the inside that counts." Sounds pretty good right? So you write being totally honest about your looks, even sending a picture, being totally open about experience and all things that they ask about and you never hear back from them again. I have tried contact first, without the pictures and than have tried the send picture with first post routine and still get the same rude response, no replies back. I have slowly learned that yes it is a good thing this happens in the first few contacts, because I don't want to waste my time. About the time I was discouraged and about to stop visiting CM I met my Master online, we are still together after a year and a half. He is a tall straight board type of body guy, at least a foot taller than me. And I am a 5'4" overweight shrimp, we have gotten past the body types and have fallen in love with the inner person. I feel if all you want is the wrapping you are going to be lonely in the long run, but if you care enough to look beyound the wrappings you may find the most valuable treasure on the inside. I once told a male friend(who liked my personality, but couldn't get past the short, pudgy me) that he is going to be one lonely man and to this day that is exactly what he is, I also recommend you look at it this way. Sometimes you can get a beautiful wrapped package and open it and find the most ugliest present on the inside, but you can get a package wrapped in a plain brown wrapping open it and find the most beautiful treasure on the inside. NOTICE: I said SOMETIMES. I have met what I think are beautiful people and they are beautiful all the way thru, I have met what I think are plain/ugly people and they are that way all the way thru. So I guess I see it as a matter of adventure and maturity to give all a try and truely see what fits, Sometimes we THINK we want something in particular, only because that is all we know, but if we try something new we might find we really can enjoy that new also.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 8:01:17 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Norsemyth

quote:

ORIGINAL: SexyRed

To the OP: I guess people having PREFERENCES disturbs you. Too bad for you. I find it fascinating that most often, when you are rejected by someone, that is when you take aim at them. In your case, I suppose you are upset that ALL women have rejected you, therefore you are trying to to be provocative, but you are only succeeding in being BORING.

Seems to me you guess incorrectly. He doesn't mind people having preferences. He simply asks about the apparent disparity between what is "allowed" under the vicious fascism of Political Correctness.

Women can demand tall, but men can't demand that the women not be fat, sloppy, flabby, floppy disgusting pigs who actually get SNOTTY about being that way....

It appears that since you have just joined this community and started posting, you are displaying your lack of comprehension and reading skills. No one attacked the OP but he was attacking women in general and in specific (feminists, overweight, etc.)

Everyone here replied about preferences and the way women have been treated forever. If you ever start understanding what you read here, you will note that many pose a question that is simply a troll or insult. That is not tolerated by intelligent people.

You, however, have shown your preferences by attacking everyone who replied. Your comments are truly disgusting and I am sure we are all just dying to hear more vitriol from you.

Oh, and since you criticized BitaTruble for her concise and direct writing as being pretentious, at least she writes intelligently instead of making derogatory comments about fat chicks.

What an ass you are. Go post on Craigslist where your kind is rampant.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 9:51:28 AM

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ORIGINAL: Norsemyth

Interesting to note that some of the most vicious attacks came from women who do indeed refuse to list their weights.....and look a trifle plump in their photos.

:) my height and weight is listed (while i don't show pictures, in which i pretty much look proportional and less than my weight) and i probably wrote one of the most vicious attacks.

also, "women," to me, implies "all women." if you are going to generalize and you wish to not piss everybody off, it's probably best to say "most women." for future reference. i know i take "women," like "black people," or "men," or "christians," or "doms," as a reference to all of that category, unless it's quantified with "most." :)

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 9:58:19 AM

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Maybe I am a weirdo. Although I do appreciate tall men very much, I have been very attracted to shorter (5'7", 5'8") men in my lifetime. My husband was only 5'9", and one of my favorite boyfriends before I married was 5'7-1/2". I am attracted to someone's personality first and foremost. Tall is sexy, but someone's mind (to me) is a whole lot sexier.

- Susan

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 10:37:07 AM

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SusanO, you have no idea of how much I appreciate you. In all the posts I've seen from, yours seem to avoid that 'default hostility' that I've often seen in the forums. You seem clear headed and rational, while at the same time, you're not afraid to express your emotions. Kudos to you. A lot of people could learn from you.

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 10:45:35 AM

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Thank you, Scott! That makes me feel good. I like your posts a lot also. Hope your Saturday is a good one!

- Susan

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RE: The silence is deafening - 7/29/2006 11:07:12 AM

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In reply to OP:

I dont think its healthy to start generalizing and assuming that every women you are attracted to is going to be turned off with your average height. Some females, like males, can be shallow, but not all.

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