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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 6:33:19 AM   
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though im reluctant to support a thread started by someone with a mental illness who is supposed to be banned, that dam it seems has already been breached and this is an important point:


Why don't you just assume that if anyone wanted to read the latest townhall article, they would be visiting that site on their own volition?
I am well aware that you post nothing BUT links to townhall articles, so if you stopped it's possible you wouldn't be posting here at all... but I'm actually fine with that.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 6:58:43 AM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 7:01:45 AM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

Outrage or not, getting fired from her job does not take away her freedom of speech.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 7:11:51 AM   
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Trump definitely is a predator at the top of the food-chain.

Besides: being president of the USA, all other USA citizens are inferior to him.

He will be deified after his death...

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 11:23:56 AM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.
I agree with you that she has the freedom to call Trump pretty much anything she wants. My comment was directed more towards whether she was right or correct in calling Trump a White Supremacist and I don't think she was correct in doing so.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 2:06:06 PM   
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He is a racist not suprematist - but he does cater for that core debauched base.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 2:38:29 PM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

Which doesn't excuse her from the repercussions. Had she been white and said something similar about Obama you'd be up in arms.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 2:40:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44
though im reluctant to support a thread started by someone with a mental illness who is supposed to be banned, that dam it seems has already been breached and this is an important point:


Why don't you just assume that if anyone wanted to read the latest townhall article, they would be visiting that site on their own volition?
I am well aware that you post nothing BUT links to townhall articles, so if you stopped it's possible you wouldn't be posting here at all... but I'm actually fine with that.

I know, why don't you just leave and you'd never have to see a Townhall article again. Just think how closed you could keep your mind.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 2:43:44 PM   
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(troll king sock three) have you really not worked that out yet heavyblinker?

And how is your mums basement these days ninja?

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 5:10:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
though im reluctant to support a thread started by someone with a mental illness who is supposed to be banned, that dam it seems has already been breached and this is an important point:


Why don't you just assume that if anyone wanted to read the latest townhall article, they would be visiting that site on their own volition?
I am well aware that you post nothing BUT links to townhall articles, so if you stopped it's possible you wouldn't be posting here at all... but I'm actually fine with that.

I know, why don't you just leave and you'd never have to see a Townhall article again. Just think how closed you could keep your mind.


oh no comrades, TOWNHALL!

here's what I assume blinker---that most people would appreciate having the relevant information RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM and not have to go look for it.

also, gee, I didn't know ive posted ~5300 townhall articles! that is a lot isn't it??

wait, this post doesn't have one! maybe I am turning over a new leaf!

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 5:28:49 PM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

Which doesn't excuse her from the repercussions. Had she been white and said something similar about Obama you'd be up in arms.

Not at all. Obama didn't need my help. He could take care of himself, unlike the manchild, Donny Trump.

Why should she suffer any repercussion anyway? She is a free citizen of this nation. How can you condone the president striking out at something a free and independent person has to say about him? Apparently you don’t give a shit about freedom of speech. But then your behavior doesn’t surprise me either. I see you time and time again chastising women on this site for saying things you don’t approve of. Mocking on women seems to be your game.



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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/17/2017 5:42:02 PM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

Which doesn't excuse her from the repercussions. Had she been white and said something similar about Obama you'd be up in arms.

Not at all. Obama didn't need my help. He could take care of himself, unlike the manchild, Donny Trump.

Why should she suffer any repercussion anyway? She is a free citizen of this nation. How can you condone the president striking out at something a free and independent person has to say about him? Apparently you don’t give a shit about freedom of speech. But then your behavior doesn’t surprise me either. I see you time and time again chastising women on this site for saying things you don’t approve of. Mocking on women seems to be your game.



No...I pretty much bag on all idiots. You're just seeing the women because you gotta believe that victimology. I'd bag on you too but usually you're on topic and have a point.

How is what I said against free speech or pro Trump. The woman woks for an international corporation and whether or not she'll be fired is up to them. But, having worked for the government and sat through my share of "Sensitivity Training" sessions, any trainer on that topic would call it a disciplinary situation. It's what the government teaches its employees so I guess they believe what it teaches.

I guess the president striking out at the cop who was following procedure....oh wait, different president different situation.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 12:03:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: heavyblinker


quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44
though im reluctant to support a thread started by someone with a mental illness who is supposed to be banned, that dam it seems has already been breached and this is an important point:


Why don't you just assume that if anyone wanted to read the latest townhall article, they would be visiting that site on their own volition?
I am well aware that you post nothing BUT links to townhall articles, so if you stopped it's possible you wouldn't be posting here at all... but I'm actually fine with that.

I know, why don't you just leave and you'd never have to see a Townhall article again. Just think how closed you could keep your mind.


oh no comrades, TOWNHALL!

here's what I assume blinker---that most people would appreciate having the relevant information RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM and not have to go look for it.

also, gee, I didn't know ive posted ~5300 townhall articles! that is a lot isn't it??

wait, this post doesn't have one! maybe I am turning over a new leaf!



People would probably appreciate having the relevant information in front of them if only it wasn't so predictably skewed and ridiculous.
I honestly can't imagine anyone who isn't already in line with your bullshit actually reading it.

Also, you didn't post a townhall link in this post because you're just attacking me, not trying to make a point.
It's only when you try to make a point that you need to depend on others.

But really, with the way you use sarcasm, you could probably benefit from getting help with your attacks as well.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 12:04:50 AM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

Which doesn't excuse her from the repercussions. Had she been white and said something similar about Obama you'd be up in arms.


Maybe because 'hope and change' isn't quite the same thing as 'rapists and murderers/build the wall/blame Mexico, China, Islam, etc.'.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 6:42:37 AM   
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How is what I said against free speech or pro Trump. The woman woks for an international corporation and whether or not she'll be fired is up to them.


One would think that the president of the United States would have more important agenda than to respond to comments made about him on social media.

The action of the presidents spokesperson calling out a citizen for expressing her opinion is itself a chilling effect on free speech, not only on other celebrities but on political actors as well.

Yes she does work for an international Corporation and apparently a fairly successful one. Which places her all the more in jeopardy from comments made by the presidents spokesperson, because underlying the public chastisement is the possibility that the power of the president’s office could lean against the corporation and push it to fire its employee. I’m not making any accusation that such a thing is taking place but it is a possibility isn’t it?

Whenever the government slaps person down for saying something that is an assault on the most vital institution of our democracy which is free-speech.


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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 7:02:58 AM   
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I guess the president striking out at the cop who was following procedure....oh wait, different president different situation.


Pres. Obama later acknowledged that his words may have inflamed the situation and maybe he could have rephrased what he said. I guess saying that the cop acted stupidly was not the president at his best form. However, the issue at hand was racial profiling and the arrest of a citizen for being a loudmouth. The police were called to Prof. Gates home by third-party who thought she saw somebody trying to break in. But when the police got there they were confronted by the homeowner, Prof. Gates. The verbal interchange between Prof. Gates and Ofc. Crowley became heated and Crowley arrested Gates basically for being obnoxious. So I don’t see how Crowley was following procedure and just doing his job. Gates was a loudmouth and Crowley was a bully. And the president acknowledged that he should not have made the remark he made. When have we ever seen the current president acknowledged wrongdoing? Ha!

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 8:21:44 AM   
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How is what I said against free speech or pro Trump. The woman woks for an international corporation and whether or not she'll be fired is up to them.


One would think that the president of the United States would have more important agenda than to respond to comments made about him on social media.

The action of the presidents spokesperson calling out a citizen for expressing her opinion is itself a chilling effect on free speech, not only on other celebrities but on political actors as well.

Yes she does work for an international Corporation and apparently a fairly successful one. Which places her all the more in jeopardy from comments made by the presidents spokesperson, because underlying the public chastisement is the possibility that the power of the president’s office could lean against the corporation and push it to fire its employee. I’m not making any accusation that such a thing is taking place but it is a possibility isn’t it?

Whenever the government slaps person down for saying something that is an assault on the most vital institution of our democracy which is free-speech.


I'd have to agree.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 8:23:45 AM   
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Jemele was exercising her freedom of speech, the rock solid foundation of our democracy. The government’s call for her to be fired from her job is an outrage. They take away her free-speech first and then they come for yours.

Which doesn't excuse her from the repercussions. Had she been white and said something similar about Obama you'd be up in arms.


Maybe because 'hope and change' isn't quite the same thing as 'rapists and murderers/build the wall/blame Mexico, China, Islam, etc.'.


Ya...how'd that hopey changie thing work out?

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 8:38:29 AM   
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Maybe because 'hope and change' isn't quite the same thing as 'rapists and murderers/build the wall/blame Mexico, China, Islam, etc.'.


Ya...how'd that hopey changie thing work out?


I was saying that Obama, unlike Trump, didn't actually campaign as a racist.
That is why calling Obama a black supremacist sounds stupid, while calling Trump a white supremacist kinda fits.

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RE: Was Jemele Hill right in calling Trump a White Supr... - 9/18/2017 9:56:06 AM   
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I guess the president striking out at the cop who was following procedure....oh wait, different president different situation.


Pres. Obama later acknowledged that his words may have inflamed the situation and maybe he could have rephrased what he said. I guess saying that the cop acted stupidly was not the president at his best form. However, the issue at hand was racial profiling and the arrest of a citizen for being a loudmouth. The police were called to Prof. Gates home by third-party who thought she saw somebody trying to break in. But when the police got there they were confronted by the homeowner, Prof. Gates. The verbal interchange between Prof. Gates and Ofc. Crowley became heated and Crowley arrested Gates basically for being obnoxious. So I don’t see how Crowley was following procedure and just doing his job. Gates was a loudmouth and Crowley was a bully. And the president acknowledged that he should not have made the remark he made. When have we ever seen the current president acknowledged wrongdoing? Ha!

No VML, the police detained Gates for not following instructions. The cop was trying to determine if anyone was under duress as he'd been called in for a B&E. Ali Gates had to do was say, officer, I live here, here is my DL, I broke in because I lost my key. Zip zam boom the cop I out of his life. I think you're making up the whole he was a bully thing. That certainly didn't come out in the press reports.

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