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Remember... there was never a dispute that this punk was selling poison... when caught in a transaction he raced through the city streets at up to 87 miles an hour refusing to stop... he could have killed your child or mine with either drugs or irresponsible fleeing at high speed. He deserved every damn thing he got.
What is it with people when they want to defend drug dealers with a gun and at the same time they are killing each other ... not only men and women... but CHILDREN... and they get mad because a drug dealer with a gun is killed and don't protest when a 4 year old is shot dead... Bullshit... I have no sympathy for them and hope they catch the rioters damaging property ...throw them in jail and throw the damn key away.
Butch
Nobody argued that Smith was not a drug dealer. But there is no room in a court case for your histrionics about his possibly killing little children. We are going to deal with the evidence or we are not.
Why the residents in St. Louis, particularly the black residents, are protesting this verdict, it is not because they wanted to defend a drug dealer. It is because they have in their minds, now after Ferguson, that another black man without a gun was shot down by a police man. In his opinion the judge was very careful in trying to push aside those outside forces and attitudes.
The State did not prove their case. But it was a hard case to prove. No one would testify that they saw Stockley with 38 revolver in his hand. That doesn’t mean that he never carried it and that doesn’t mean that nobody saw it. It only means that nobody testified on it.
The defendant, Stockley, testified that he took his gloves off to retrieve a blood clot device from his personal bag. That he could not have found the blood clot device if he had his gloves on. That explains why he took off one glove but not the other.
The state contends that Stockley took his gloves off because his DNA was all over the gun he was going to plant. The judge says oh no the gun was too big; he could not have carried it without anybody noticing. Of course, never mind that there are about six police officers hanging out around the drivers door of the dead man’s vehicle, a rather convenient blue screen.
The judge points out that there were two DNA experts, who testified for the state that the absence of James DNA could be due to the possibility that he never touched the gun. To my mind if James owned that gun and had it in his possession he would’ve done more than just touch it one time or another. I think the judge's assumption here was very weak.
Then the judge says that the wound to James left hip was consistent with his reaching over to his right to grab the gun. The judge doesn’t consider the possibility that after James was shot several times in the torso he would’ve slumped over to his right as well. It is unlikely that he is going to slump over toward the force of the bullets.
I read the whole opinion and I can see where the state did not prove its case. But to me the case boils down to the gun. No DNA from the dead man on the gun. DNA from the cop on the gun. I think it’s a reasonable assumption that the cop planted the gun. I think it was a reasonable assumption from his behavior that he was out to get this drug dealer who had rammed into his car twice and allegedly hit him in the shoulder. Both offices claim they saw James drive away with a gun in his hand. We don’t drive the streets at 78 miles an hour with one hand on the steering wheel and the other holding a gun. That’s crap. And where was the gun found allegedly? Between the drivers seat and the center console. I’d be interested to know the distance between those two objects. In my car it is pretty slim.
So another get out of jail free card for a cop who shot a black man. The deceased probably deserved it but that's not what justice ls about in our system.
Like you they think that it is a white cop so since they don't have a dozen black witnesses that Smith had a gun the cop must have planted it.
How can you miss the main point of my argument? The lack of Smith's DNA on the gun is the major indicator that he did not have a gun.
According to the judge that was alleged, but not proven.
And you still have to throw out every other piece of evidence.
The cop had his own gun, it was in the back seat of the police car.
They never had a case which is why it took 6 years to come to trial.
This was nothing but a political lynching attempt.
Dr. Karen Preiter, a DNA analyst at the St. Louis Metropolitan Crime Lab testified that DNA results from the gun were consistent with Jason Stockley.
Of course the cops DNA was on the gun, it would be there from his securing the gun.
But the DNA of the alleged owner was NOT on the gun. The DNA analyst says that if Smith's DNA was not on the gun all she can say is he did not touch it. In other words, the evidence limited her comments. She could not say that the alternate and reasonable conclusion would be that Smith did not touch the gun because he never had possession of it.
Which means we would have to believe that a drug dealer who owned a gun never touched it, when in fact, he probably showed it to his buddies, hugged it, kissed it, etc. He would want everyone to know he had a gun. He would be proud to show his gun. But this wasn't his gun. He NEVER touched it. It was planted.
Get put of jail free card for the cop.
So the cop carries a bunch of guns to plant.
His personal gun was in the police car, it wasn't the one associated with the dealer.
The judge didn't see it the same way you do and he got a better look a the evidence than both of us put together.
The judge said the opposite of what you say.
If the gun was so clearly planted why did it take SIX YEARS to take it to court.
You want to throw out every piece of information except your interpretation.
Come on now, the cop is white, the drug dealer was black, that was all you needed to know.
You are by your own words a big supporter, as long as they only shoot white people.
You have proven that trying to talk to your partner after a loud noise is just fine as long as the cop is black
and the dead person is white. All that matters to you is race.
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