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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 3:24:49 PM   
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First, the OP makes it a racial issue, clearly.

Then you make it to be a trans-gender issue in subsequent posts. So, which is it?

You have already defended the notion that if cops are inept and clueless, and are really scared and don't belong in the position in the first place, just fire away. So no one is quite seeing your point, here.

Are you saying the untrained cop was justified in the murder, or not? Justified because he supposedly 'came at him,' or justified because because he was trans-sexual? Or not justified because he was white, as per your OP?

No, I was right the first time. You claim than nobody cared until you brought it to our attention, from which we can only assume that you care more about white trans-sexuals wielding plastic than you do about completely unarmed black guys.

"Justified" police killings happen on a weekly basis in this big country. That's why this one wasn't national news.

Killing of unarmed people is what's been making way too much headline news for a supposedly 'civilized country' these past few years.





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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 3:37:14 PM   
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Yep, if the person is a threat they can be shot

A fucking tadpole is a 'threat' to you.

You are the biggest chickenshit I've ever come across in my whole life.

Why aren't you a policeman?

Age, I am past retirement age. And I was in the military till I was to old.
As far as what is a threat to me you haven't got a clue.


Right, So participating in destroying lives and families around the world is what you consider as 'brave,' with 50,000-300,000 guys and gals in front of you to keep your fat chickenshit ass safe.

You already said in this thread that you commiserate with the police guy with gun and no brain (just like you, not surprisingly) being justified in shooting a trans-sexual waving plastic or a pocket knife. I've dealt with worse, if not by much. But we both came out of it intact.

You present your abject fear in every post. You repetitively respond; "what if he looked angry at the police/" "what if he poked them with his big toe?" "sometimes the tazer doesn't work, so why use it? just shoot" "even though he is 50' from the truck, the police are as fat and stupid as I am, so we can't beat him to it, just shoot" " I'm really scared of black people, so if he doesn't respond to police order, shoot,"etc.

You take the side of innate chickenshits in all cases, and fully commiserate with them in every instance.

So yes, you are the biggest chickenshit I've ever come across.


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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 4:36:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: Edwird
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Yep, if the person is a threat they can be shot

A fucking tadpole is a 'threat' to you.

You are the biggest chickenshit I've ever come across in my whole life.

Why aren't you a policeman?

Age, I am past retirement age. And I was in the military till I was to old.
As far as what is a threat to me you haven't got a clue.


Right, So participating in destroying lives and families around the world is what you consider as 'brave,' with 50,000-300,000 guys and gals in front of you to keep your fat chickenshit ass safe.

You already said in this thread that you commiserate with the police guy with gun and no brain (just like you, not surprisingly) being justified in shooting a trans-sexual waving plastic or a pocket knife. I've dealt with worse, if not by much. But we both came out of it intact.

You present your abject fear in every post. You repetitively respond; "what if he looked angry at the police/" "what if he poked them with his big toe?" "sometimes the tazer doesn't work, so why use it? just shoot" "even though he is 50' from the truck, the police are as fat and stupid as I am, so we can't beat him to it, just shoot" " I'm really scared of black people, so if he doesn't respond to police order, shoot,"etc.

You take the side of innate chickenshits in all cases, and fully commiserate with them in every instance.

So yes, you are the biggest chickenshit I've ever come across.


Interesting that you misquoted me every time there.
You also missed me criticizing the school for not providing
the cops with thins like tasers.
You are so consistent , you are never right.
Why did you pull a knife on a cop?
Why did you advance on the cop when he told you to stop and drop the knife.
Or were you lying when you said you had been in the same situation?

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 4:47:35 PM   
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Why did you pull a knife on a cop?


More proof that simple dirt is 50 points above whatever your IQ is.
It was the other way round, and no cop was involved.

You are an even bigger dumbshit than you are a chickenshit. That's saying something.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 4:59:17 PM   
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Though it's clear that the two go hand in hand.

So there you are, holding hands with yourself in abject fear and stupidity.


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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 5:09:49 PM   
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Why did you pull a knife on a cop?


More proof that simple dirt is 50 points above whatever your IQ is.
It was the other way round, and no cop was involved.

You are an even bigger dumbshit than you are a chickenshit. That's saying something.


So you lied about the same thing happening to you.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 5:17:44 PM   
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Though it's clear that the two go hand in hand.

So there you are, holding hands with yourself in abject fear and stupidity.



Prove it you lying POS.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 5:33:50 PM   
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Clean kill what is your problem hysterical snowflake? Or are you going to weep because they danced on the three and missed two radical trouble makers I hope they hang.

I criticize the school for not providing non lethal weapons and you come up with this?
Did you even read my post?


I suspect its wickedsdesire in about iteration #8.

and bama, edwird is not the least bit worth talking to.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 5:38:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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Clean kill what is your problem hysterical snowflake? Or are you going to weep because they danced on the three and missed two radical trouble makers I hope they hang.

I criticize the school for not providing non lethal weapons and you come up with this?
Did you even read my post?


I suspect its wickedsdesire in about iteration #8.

and bama, edwird is not the least bit worth talking to.


I know, he threatened to shoot me just before I got him a lifetime ban.
The he came back with a different name but I have gotten to much
information about his life for it to be a different person.

As for wicked desire who else can it be, he has the same disconnect from reality.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 5:55:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

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Clean kill what is your problem hysterical snowflake? Or are you going to weep because they danced on the three and missed two radical trouble makers I hope they hang.

I criticize the school for not providing non lethal weapons and you come up with this?
Did you even read my post?


I suspect its wickedsdesire in about iteration #8.

and bama, edwird is not the least bit worth talking to.


Edwird has serious mental problems.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:11:54 PM   
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I don't think ive ever read of an instance of police using them in a situation like this. or for that matter, apart from tasers, we hardly ever hear stories of cops using unique and specially designed non-lethal methods to subdue mortal threats. I don't doubt they happen but itd be good to hear how.

I wonder about net guns, tranquilizers, or in this instance, why not tasers?

It's not very often that we think along the same lines but I find myself asking these questions too. After looking at the footage of the incident, it seems to me quite inaccurate to describe the poor fool who died as "threatening" or "menacing" or presenting a clear and present danger to anyone but himself. While the deceased wasn't backing down he most certainly didn't appear to be threatening or aggressive to me.

There seemed to be a number of police present. If two or more police are incapable of subduing a single person without resorting to lethal firepower, what does this tell us about their competence, or their (lack of appropriate) training? Were the police armed with tasers or other non-lethal weapons? If so, why didn't they use tasers to subdue the person? If not why not? Are they trained in non-lethal methods of subduing people? And if not, why not?

I get the impression that in situations like this, the police use lethal firepower as the first rather than the last option. Do others find it odd that police depts are equipped with armoured personnel carriers and other military equipment but don't appear to be equipped with non-lethal means of keeping the peace and enforcing the law in situations like this?

Looking at the footage I have to credit the cop at the top of the frame for backing away, but I agree there should be other hardware options available to the police as you and others have suggested. The kid was clearly told to drop the knife but for some psychologically unexplained reason he did not and he kept advancing. And most unfortunately, the cops only had guns. No non-lethal weapons of choice. I can't fault them for failing to charge him, even with night sticks, but this scene calls for a nationwide attempt to develop protocol for dealing with mentally off course people. I am very confident that President Trump will call for a conference on this topic soon.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:12:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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Clean kill what is your problem hysterical snowflake? Or are you going to weep because they danced on the three and missed two radical trouble makers I hope they hang.

I criticize the school for not providing non lethal weapons and you come up with this?
Did you even read my post?


I suspect its wickedsdesire in about iteration #8.

and bama, edwird is not the least bit worth talking to.


Edwird has serious mental problems.


Yes, I think he has a serious inferiority complex, that is why he constantly tries to tear other people down.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:24:52 PM   
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So you lied about the same thing happening to you.


Your complete lack of even the most basic comprehension ability does not equate to another's 'lying.'

Like I said, you're an even bigger dumbshit than a chickenshit.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:26:59 PM   
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Prove it you lying POS.


Every one of your posts proves it.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:27:25 PM   
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So you lied about the same thing happening to you.


Your complete lack of even the most basic comprehension ability does not equate to another's 'lying.'

Like I said, you're an even bigger dumbshit than a chickenshit.


You have said nothing reasonable yet. You insults are meaningless.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:31:34 PM   
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I know, he threatened to shoot me just before I got him a lifetime ban.


Well, this is interesting.

Not that you could prove any of it, not that anyone expects you to.

Not your style.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 6:36:45 PM   
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Never had a gun in my life, never fired one . . .

But I'm supposed to go to all the trouble to get a gun just to shoot your silly fat ass? When any of my nieces could easily slap your stupid face back to the couch?

You are too funny, silly bitch.



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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 7:09:57 PM   
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PS

Don't wrestle with the nieces or nephews until you've had your Wheaties.

Strong and faster-than-you-expected donkey kicks to the face as they are giggling are a common occurrence.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 7:31:15 PM   
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I know, he threatened to shoot me just before I got him a lifetime ban.


Well, this is interesting.

Not that you could prove any of it, not that anyone expects you to.

Not your style.


You and I both know it is true, that is all I need.

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RE: Geogia Tech Student. - 9/21/2017 7:32:48 PM   
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Never had a gun in my life, never fired one . . .

But I'm supposed to go to all the trouble to get a gun just to shoot your silly fat ass? When any of my nieces could easily slap your stupid face back to the couch?

You are too funny, silly bitch.



As I thought at the time it was just another stupid rant on your part.

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