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DesideriScuri -> RE: Are cakes art? (9/23/2017 4:41:55 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
This thread is getting dumber and dumber with every post.
The onus is not on the consumer to ensure that no conditions could exist that the coffee couldn't possibly spill. It's not about why didn't the woman use a cup holder. It's about did the business serve a liquid for consumption that was at a temperature that was dangerously hot enough to cause third degree burns. That puts the liability on the business serving the coffee.
What should really be looked at in the 'are cakes art' debate should be does a person have freedom OF religion, or in business, do they get to IMPOSE that religion on other people? Is a person's "art" more important than the concept of discrimination?
They are not imposing their religion on the gay couple. The gay couple can get married and continue on with their lives. Their lives, beliefs and morals do not hinge on this bakery making a cake for their homosexual wedding. Do you get to demand a Kosher or Halal butcher shop provide you pork? How about a pizza shop owned by a Muslim not using pork pepperoni
[Aside] The beef pepperoni was damn good. I was trying a new pizza joint with my boys and they didn't have Italian sausage as a topping. When I asked about it, the guy at the counter said the owner was Muslim and they had no pork products. The pizza wasn't anything special, so my search for the perfect pizza in my area (found an amazing mom and pop shop 5 hours away with amazing 'za) continues. [/Aside]
Regarding the coffee incident: I feel bad that lady had to go through what she went through. At the same time, putting a to-go coffee cup between your legs is inviting injury, regardless of whether or not your trying to open it. I wonder how hot Starbucks coffee is.....thank you Yahoo!
https://www.eater.com/2017/5/19/15662790/starbucks-hot-coffee-lawsuit-florida-100k quote:
A jury in Florida has found Starbucks at fault for serving hot coffee in cups with faulty lids, according to a release from the plaintiff’s legal firm, Morgan & Morgan.
The suit centered around a Florida resident who ordered coffee at a Starbucks drive-thru in Jacksonville in 2014. When she received the order — a 20-ounce Venti Pike Place roast — through her drivers’ side window, the coffee cup lid popped off. The 190-degree liquid spilled all over her lap, giving her first- and second-degree burns.
[Bold Mine]
Apparently, 190° isn't necessarily hotter than to be expected.
Back to the bakery: Does the baker have any choice in what business to accept or decline? Can a baker decline to bake a cake for someone who wants to celebrate white supremacy, for instance?
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