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Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 2:56:20 AM   
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manafort-wiretap_us_59c05148e4b0f22c4a8c0527

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Federal investigators allegedly secretly wiretapped former Donald Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort before and after the 2016 election, according to a CNN report Monday. 
Manafort first came under surveillance after a secret court order authorized it for investigators who were looking into work he did on behalf of a pro-Russia Ukrainian political party, CNN reported. He came under surveillance again as part of the FBI’s investigation into whether Trump’s campaign actively colluded with Russian officials to sway the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.
As CNN reported:
Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.


And:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/mueller-russia-investigation.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=https://t.co/QS9N8ir6Ps

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The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, then followed the house search with a warning: His prosecutors told Mr. Manafort they planned to indict him, said two people close to the investigation.


Also:

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Donald Trump Jr., the president’s son, set up the Trump Tower meeting to receive what he was told would be damaging information about Hillary Clinton from the Russian government.
Soon after his name surfaced, one of the Russian-born participants at the meeting, Rinat Akhmetshin, was ordered to testify before the grand jury, according to one of Mr. Akhmetshin’s associates.
“They seem to be pursuing this more aggressively, taking a much harder line, than you’d expect to see in a typical white-collar case,” said Jimmy Gurulé, a Notre Dame law professor and former federal prosecutor. “This is more consistent with how you’d go after an organized crime syndicate.


Sounds about right.
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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 5:30:21 AM   
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Hillary's boy Mueller is just leaking all over the place

Too bad they couldn't find a real professional to do that job

(You realize that President Trump fired Manafort after only three months, right? He's a nobody.)

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 5:45:42 AM   
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He was under surveillance since 2014... and he was Trump's first pick for his campaign manager.
What do you think the odds are he will flip on Trump?

Also, the second article said they're going after TRUMP JR. like they would go after an organized crime syndicate.
I wonder if it's related to this:

http://www.salon.com/2017/04/18/trumps-deep-links-to-organized-crime-federal-investigators-know-and-the-public-is-catching-on_partner/

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In the 1990s, the FBI considered Bogatin one of the key members of a major Russian organized crime family run by a legendary boss named Semion Mogilevich. According to the late investigative reporter Wayne Barrett, Bogatin owned five separate condos in Trump Tower that Trump had reportedly personally sold to him.

Vyacheslav Ivankov, another Mogilevich lieutenant in the United States during the 1990s, also resided for a time at Trump Tower and reportedly had in his personal phone book the private telephone and fax numbers for the Trump Organization’s office in that building.


Hey remember 'He will die in jail'?:

https://sputniknews.com/us/201702151050723578-intelligence-community-war-trump/

I really hope I see it happen.
But first they go after his friends and family, I guess.

I keep thinking of that 'oh fuck' look Trump had on his face when he won.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 6:00:21 AM   
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Mueller Picks Another Clinton/Obama Donor For Russia Probe Team

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 6:04:06 AM   
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Mueller Picks Another Clinton


Therefore Trump didn't actually sell 5 condos in Trump Tower to a Russian gangster, didn't sell a ridiculously overpriced mansion to a Russian oligarch for an inexplicably massive profit when the real estate market was seriously struggling (only to have him demolish it), has no ties to Bayrock, didn't pick the former chairman of a Russian money laundering bank for commerce secretary, didn't inexplicably defend Flynn with a vengeance, didn't pick Manafort to run his campaign, his son didn't have a meeting with Russians during the campaign, he isn't the criminal that he obviously fucking is, there was never a lot of money coming in from Russia, and there is no reason whatsoever to be investigating him.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 6:08:15 AM   
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Anyways, I hope this means they can pin this debacle on the mob and avoid war with Russia.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 6:30:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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Mueller Picks Another Clinton


Therefore Trump didn't actually sell 5 condos in Trump Tower to a Russian gangster, didn't sell a ridiculously overpriced mansion to a Russian oligarch for an inexplicably massive profit when the real estate market was seriously struggling (only to have him demolish it), has no ties to Bayrock, didn't pick the former chairman of a Russian money laundering bank for commerce secretary, didn't inexplicably defend Flynn with a vengeance, didn't pick Manafort to run his campaign, his son didn't have a meeting with Russians during the campaign, he isn't the criminal that he obviously fucking is, there was never a lot of money coming in from Russia, and there is no reason whatsoever to be investigating him.


OMFG, a real estate developer sold properties

OMFG OMFG OMFG, EVERYBODY KEEP PANICKING

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 7:05:39 AM   
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Anyways, I hope this means they can pin this debacle on the mob and avoid war with Russia.

The boundaries between the mob and the government are rather porous in Russia, are they not?

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 7:20:57 AM   
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OMFG, a real estate developer sold properties

OMFG OMFG OMFG, EVERYBODY KEEP PANICKING


Yes, ignore who he sold them to, ignore that they were in Trump Tower, and ignore that the FBI is currently treating Don Jr.'s case like they treat organized crime cases.
I honestly can't wait to see how you react when Trump goes down.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 7:22:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Mueller Picks Another Clinton


Therefore Trump didn't actually sell 5 condos in Trump Tower to a Russian gangster, didn't sell a ridiculously overpriced mansion to a Russian oligarch for an inexplicably massive profit when the real estate market was seriously struggling (only to have him demolish it), has no ties to Bayrock, didn't pick the former chairman of a Russian money laundering bank for commerce secretary, didn't inexplicably defend Flynn with a vengeance, didn't pick Manafort to run his campaign, his son didn't have a meeting with Russians during the campaign, he isn't the criminal that he obviously fucking is, there was never a lot of money coming in from Russia, and there is no reason whatsoever to be investigating him.


OMFG, a real estate developer sold properties

OMFG OMFG OMFG, EVERYBODY KEEP PANICKING

Selling or buying real estate at unrealistic prices for cash is a terrible way to launder money..................said no one ever.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 9:56:09 AM   
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Hillary's boy Mueller is just leaking all over the place

Too bad they couldn't find a real professional to do that job

(You realize that President Trump fired Manafort after only three months, right? He's a nobody.)

Funny how Mueller was really W's boy, and as professional as they come then, a life long repub.

Now all of a sudden, he's Hillary's boy. Not even a nice try.



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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 9:59:23 AM   
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Mueller Picks Another Clinton/Obama Donor For Russia Probe Team

Well you all on the right of today think money donors are just keen, when throwing money at the right. Oh but no, you can't throw money at the dems and be impartial. [sic]

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 10:03:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Mueller Picks Another Clinton


Therefore Trump didn't actually sell 5 condos in Trump Tower to a Russian gangster, didn't sell a ridiculously overpriced mansion to a Russian oligarch for an inexplicably massive profit when the real estate market was seriously struggling (only to have him demolish it), has no ties to Bayrock, didn't pick the former chairman of a Russian money laundering bank for commerce secretary, didn't inexplicably defend Flynn with a vengeance, didn't pick Manafort to run his campaign, his son didn't have a meeting with Russians during the campaign, he isn't the criminal that he obviously fucking is, there was never a lot of money coming in from Russia, and there is no reason whatsoever to be investigating him.


OMFG, a real estate developer sold properties

OMFG OMFG OMFG, EVERYBODY KEEP PANICKING

Trump's property sales and golf course loans is flat out laundering many million$ of Russian's oligarch money and Trump new it as did his son.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 10:04:09 AM   
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Anyways, I hope this means they can pin this debacle on the mob and avoid war with Russia.

The boundaries between the mob and the government are rather porous in Russia, are they not?

One boundary...don't fuck with Putin.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 10:06:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Mueller Picks Another Clinton


Therefore Trump didn't actually sell 5 condos in Trump Tower to a Russian gangster, didn't sell a ridiculously overpriced mansion to a Russian oligarch for an inexplicably massive profit when the real estate market was seriously struggling (only to have him demolish it), has no ties to Bayrock, didn't pick the former chairman of a Russian money laundering bank for commerce secretary, didn't inexplicably defend Flynn with a vengeance, didn't pick Manafort to run his campaign, his son didn't have a meeting with Russians during the campaign, he isn't the criminal that he obviously fucking is, there was never a lot of money coming in from Russia, and there is no reason whatsoever to be investigating him.


OMFG, a real estate developer sold properties

OMFG OMFG OMFG, EVERYBODY KEEP PANICKING

Selling or buying real estate at unrealistic prices for cash is a terrible way to launder money..................said no one ever.

Well if Hillary had done it, you know it's corruption but when repubs have done it, it's just smart business.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 11:15:59 AM   
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Anyways, I hope this means they can pin this debacle on the mob and avoid war with Russia.

The boundaries between the mob and the government are rather porous in Russia, are they not?

One boundary...don't fuck with Putin.

True that: just look what happened to Litvenko and his solicitor.
One of the few smart things that Dubya did was refusing to let the oligarchs who'd failed to hand over to Putin the profits they'd made asset stripping former public services owned by the State into your country.

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 11:38:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Anyways, I hope this means they can pin this debacle on the mob and avoid war with Russia.

The boundaries between the mob and the government are rather porous in Russia, are they not?

One boundary...don't fuck with Putin.

True that: just look what happened to Litvenko and his solicitor.
One of the few smart things that Dubya did was refusing to let the oligarchs who'd failed to hand over to Putin the profits they'd made asset stripping former public services owned by the State into your country.

Ah but things have changed. have they not ? Trump fires federal prosecutor Preet Bharara despite an agreement in Nov. '16 after the election that he could remain on. Would not resign, so had to be fired. Why ?

He put away Russians and was the terror of wall street. Obviously, under the righties, he had to go. Imagine a man going after Russian oligarchs dirty money and taking on wall street traders and financiers. Who did he think he was...some 'hot shot' enforcing the laws that America is supposed to be all about ? [sic]

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 1:28:07 PM   
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They should offer him immunity. I would like that to happen, you too methinks. The mob connections are often overlooked or quickly forgotten, even by me.
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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 4:30:49 PM   
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Obozo denied wirewtapping Trump, Comey denied wiretapping Trump, Clapper denied wiretapping Trump... This spying on campaign business makes Watergate look like an unlicensed lemonade stand

One article pointing this out (mainstream media refuses to cover this kind of thing):


Remember When James Clapper Categorically Denied Any Wiretap Against Trump Campaign?

Why in the world would the mainstream media continue to take James Clapper seriously?

In March the former Director of National Intelligence under President Barack Obama appeared on Meet the Press to respond to President Donald Trump‘s now-infamous tweets regarding a “wiretap” related to his campaign during the Obama Administration. Host Chuck Todd asked Clapper point-blank whether any wiretap had occurred:

But I will say that, for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against– the president elect at the time, or as a candidate, or against his campaign. I can’t speak for other Title Three authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.

Clapper’s answer appeared unequivocal, but there was still a little wiggle room. So Todd, to his credit, drilled down and asked a very specific question about a very specific scenario:

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TODD: Yeah, I was just going to say, if the F.B.I., for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?

CLAPPER: Yes.

TODD: You would be told this?

CLAPPER: I would know that.

TODD: If there was a FISA court order–

CLAPPER: Yes.

TODD: –on something like this.

CLAPPER: Something like this, absolutely.

TODD: And at this point, you can’t confirm or deny whether that exists?

CLAPPER: I can deny it.


Now we learn that there was, in fact, a FISA court order and it came from the FBI and Clapper, in his own words, claimed he would have known about that. And he denied it, unequivocally. Maybe he forgot all about the FISA order wiretapping Paul Manafort while he was in direct contact with Trump in his campaign and after the election.

Clapper also “forgot” that the NSA had a data collection program of every single American citizen when he testified before the Senate Intelligence committee and denied its existence.

James Clapper, former DNI chief and now, favorite guest of media outlets looking to attack President Trump, either has a terrible, terrible memory, or he was kept in the dark about a FISA order that occurred on his watch, or he’s just a liar. Can’t think of any other options here, can you?

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RE: Manafort was wiretapped by Feds, will be indicted - 9/19/2017 5:42:31 PM   
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"That Time Susan Rice Said No Wiretapping Of Trump Tower Occurred Under Obama"

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President Trump said that Trump Tower was being wiretapped. The media thought he was just peddling nutty conspiracy theories, but CNN reported last night that Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chief, was wiretapped by the FBI through a FISA warrant that began in 2014 (via CNN)

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US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.

Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.

Special counsel Robert Mueller's team, which is leading the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election, has been provided details of these communications.

A secret order authorized by the court that handles the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) began after Manafort became the subject of an FBI investigation that began in 2014. It centered on work done by a group of Washington consulting firms for Ukraine's former ruling party, the sources told CNN.

The surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, according to one of the sources.


Manafort has a residence in Trump Tower, though the news network could not confirm whether surveillance occurred inside that domicile. Still, for Trump supporters, it’s another instance in which the president is vindicated, despite the lack of clarity on whether Manafort’s residence at Trump Tower was targeted. Regardless, it was another trip up for the media, who scoffed at any wiretapping claim. For the Obama administration, we once again have Susan Rice denying that any sort of activity occurred under Barack’s tenure in office. Wrong again, Susan. Let’s go back to your interview with PBS’ Judy Woodruff in March:

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PBS’ JUDY WOODRUFF: We have been following a disclosure by the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes (R-CA), that in essence during the final days of the Obama administration, during the transition, after President Trump had been elected—that he and the people around him may have been caught up in surveillance of foreign individuals, and that their identities may have been disclosed. Do you know anything about this?

SUSAN RICE, Former U.S. National Security Adviser: “I know nothing about this. I was surprised to see reports from Chairman Nunes on that count today. And let`s back up and recall where we have been. The president of the United States accused his predecessor, President Obama, of wiretapping Trump Tower during the campaign. Nothing of the sort occurred, and we have heard that confirmed by the director of the FBI, who also pointed out that no president, no White House can order the surveillance of another American citizen. That can only come from the Justice Department, with the approval of a FISA court.


Recently, the former national security adviser admitted that she did unmask the identities of Trump officials, despite initially saying that she knew nothing about the unmasking. Then, she admitted that it was part of her job. In March, she also penned an op-ed, where she said:

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On Monday, FBI Director James B. Comey testified plainly that “I have no information that supports” President Trump’s accusations that his predecessor ordered the “wires tapped” at Trump Tower. These false statements from the White House are part of a disturbing pattern of behavior that poses real and potentially profound dangers to U.S. national security.


Well, it looks like calling it a totally false claim wasn't entirely accurate, huh?


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