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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 1:20:27 PM   
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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 4:26:29 PM   
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Please see...I believe...post 136, your item 8 where you mention in quotations the US as a colonial landlord which is your commie sneaking out on you. Having read a great deal of Chairman Mao's personal diaries he wrote during the time he was struggling to form a communist government, I noted just how similar you sound.

You don't just quote history. You cherry pick which history you become histrionic about. I usually ignore it because I can respect you being a commie if that is what you really believe. But, if you're going to deny it now, I have to diminish my respect.


Oh, you poor demented fuck! Are you then going to deny the well documented history of Teddy Roosevelt leading his band of Rough Riders up the wrong Hill and claiming it for the United States overthrowing the "ownership" of Puerto Rico? Are you going to deny that the Spanish American War was a colonial war brought on by a New York City newspaper battle for readership? And was the beginning of the decline of the Spanish Empire in the Western World? Tis said the cover-up is worse than the crime but in this case the follow-up lie is greater than the original. Oh tell me you are not going to stand there with your stupid face hanging out and try to claim that my calling Teddy Roosevelt an imperialist was a mistake. Christ, have you become pathetic since hanging out with the RWNJs! Grow up,son, and admit your mistake. BY all means diminish your respect. I believe I will get along without it somehow.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 4:35:43 PM   
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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 4:43:08 PM   
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I will say it one more time for emphasis and to get it into your limp brain:

I never ever anywhere said government is always good and white people are always bad;I only recounted history, which I would have expected you to know. In this particular case, in fact, I have taken the position that government fucked up, and I made no observation at all about race.

Dumb shit.



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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 6:01:44 PM   
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dont.

FU. You're idiocy is beyond belief sometimes.

Q.E.D eh Lucy?

As if Lucy would know what QED meant without google. I guess since you or Lucy never mistype anything it is a dumb/dumbest thing ever. But, that still doesn't mean Lucy had a clue what you wrote meant, without google.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 6:04:13 PM   
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Nnanji


I will say it one more time for emphasis and to get it into your limp brain:

I never ever anywhere said government is always good and white people are always bad;I only recounted history, which I would have expected you to know. In this particular case, in fact, I have taken the position that government fucked up, and I made no observation at all about race.

Dumb shit.



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VML, I'm beginning to get worried about you. Some days you're okay. Some days you display signs of senility. I'm serious dude, are you okay?

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/6/2017 6:21:28 PM   
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I thought he hurled bog roll at the cheeky scrounging animals whilst howling they should pay of their debt, unlike the skint fuker himself, bankrupt many times over

Or did you see this go down another way hysterical snowflake Russian bint?

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 3:05:39 AM   
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Nnanji


I will say it one more time for emphasis and to get it into your limp brain:

I never ever anywhere said government is always good and white people are always bad;I only recounted history, which I would have expected you to know. In this particular case, in fact, I have taken the position that government fucked up, and I made no observation at all about race.

Dumb shit.



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VML, I'm beginning to get worried about you. Some days you're okay. Some days you display signs of senility. I'm serious dude, are you okay?

pathetic

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 3:09:37 AM   
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I thought he hurled bog roll at the cheeky scrounging animals whilst howling they should pay of their debt, unlike the skint fuker himself, bankrupt many times over

Or did you see this go down another way hysterical snowflake Russian bint?


Get your attention while you can, Wicked, Collarchat is dying.

Death by trolls.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 3:52:33 AM   
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I never ever anywhere said government is always good and white people are always bad;I only recounted history, which I would have expected you to know.


you don't have to explicitly say it Vincent, no one would actually say something like that, but its the general default position of the left, and in your case in particular, that position undergirds an overwhelming majority of your posts.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 7:24:13 AM   
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I never ever anywhere said government is always good and white people are always bad;I only recounted history, which I would have expected you to know.


you don't have to explicitly say it Vincent, no one would actually say something like that, but its the general default position of the left, and in your case in particular, that position undergirds an overwhelming majority of your posts.

I've seen him on days when he'd understand that. A lot of the time he's a reasonable guy. Something is wrong with him. But, then again, he does this sort of thing from time to time.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 7:54:42 AM   
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Ironic that vincent is the most rabidly racist person here, by far

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 7:57:05 AM   
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Ironic that vincent is the most rabidly racist person here, by far

Yes he is, but he's honest about it. Gotta give him that. Which points to his selective cherry picking of history I've mentioned and he doesn't understand.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 9:34:40 AM   
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Ironic that vincent is the most rabidly racist person here, by far

Yes he is, but he's honest about it. Gotta give him that. Which points to his selective cherry picking of history I've mentioned and he doesn't understand.

Returning I see to the level of 'debate' at which you are most comfortable, guys, the sewers of name calling. Evidently, that's what you need to make your immature wienies grow.

So, where is FEMA? Three weeks in?

Increased military presence leading up to his visit aimed to rewrite the script of widely reported failures in distributing aid, just in time for a choreographed media-op by the Kim Kardashian of politicians. Some local analysts had worried it would be more branding than substance, more TV than reality. It turned out to be worse–downright insulting.

For Saturday Night Live it might be difficult to top, as Trump has become a parody of himself, recently dedicating a golf tournament trophy to victims of hurricanes Harvey, Irma and María.

With amnesia of “you’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie,” Trump tweeted that all buildings in Puerto Rico have been inspected. Pro-statehood governor Ricky Rosselló, alternating calls for aid with praise of federal efforts, didn’t quite know what to make of the claim.

The indelible image from his visit to the island: Trump lobbing rolls of paper towels into a crowd as if at seals. He also told officials that the worst catastrophe to beset the island in a century had strained the federal budget. Moody’s has set Puerto Rico’s losses at $45 to $95 billion.

In a country of 3.4 million, 95 percent are without power, and about 50 percent without water. Interminable gas lines still snarl traffic. Cash-strapped customers still wait hours at finally opened supermarkets, often to find nearly empty shelves.

Fewer than 20 of 69 hospitals have regular electricity, about half of dialysis centers were closed midweek, and for the many diabetics, insulin requires refrigeration or ice. Indeed some of the 5 million Puerto Ricans living stateside now struggle to get relatives with medical needs out.

There is something abhorrent in the spinning of news when so many lives are at stake. Trump touted that only 16 had died, then after he left the official count rose to 34. But news estimates are much higher and the current death toll is impossible to determine. Some rural areas still remain completely isolated. Local food sovereignty activists on the ground see risk of starvation. There have been calls for a massive airlift.

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz now calls for a 10-year moratorium, while others pitch debt forgiveness. Even Trump called for canceling the debt, though presidents don’t have the constitutional power to do so–likely just more spin. The National Hispanic Leadership Agenda is promoting a Marshall Plan that requires $70 billion.

What Puerto Rico needs is a Marshall plan and debt forgiveness–not loans. If post-hurricane policies do not veer radically, expect more Exodus. The destination of displaced Puerto Rican U.S. citizens will be the soon-to-be Blue State of Florida. And then María will most definitely be Trump’s Katrina.


-trump-vs-puerto-rico_us_

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 9:40:09 AM   
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Ironic that vincent is the most rabidly racist person here, by far

Yes he is, but he's honest about it. Gotta give him that. Which points to his selective cherry picking of history I've mentioned and he doesn't understand.

Returning I see to the level of 'debate' at which you are most comfortable, guys, the sewers of name calling. Evidently, that's what you need to make your immature wienies grow.

So, where is FEMA? Three weeks in?

Increased military presence leading up to his visit aimed to rewrite the script of widely reported failures in distributing aid, just in time for a choreographed media-op by the Kim Kardashian of politicians. Some local analysts had worried it would be more branding than substance, more TV than reality. It turned out to be worse–downright insulting.

For Saturday Night Live it might be difficult to top, as Trump has become a parody of himself, recently dedicating a golf tournament trophy to victims of hurricanes Harvey, Irma and María.

With amnesia of “you’re doing a heck of a job, Brownie,” Trump tweeted that all buildings in Puerto Rico have been inspected. Pro-statehood governor Ricky Rosselló, alternating calls for aid with praise of federal efforts, didn’t quite know what to make of the claim.

The indelible image from his visit to the island: Trump lobbing rolls of paper towels into a crowd as if at seals. He also told officials that the worst catastrophe to beset the island in a century had strained the federal budget. Moody’s has set Puerto Rico’s losses at $45 to $95 billion.

In a country of 3.4 million, 95 percent are without power, and about 50 percent without water. Interminable gas lines still snarl traffic. Cash-strapped customers still wait hours at finally opened supermarkets, often to find nearly empty shelves.

Fewer than 20 of 69 hospitals have regular electricity, about half of dialysis centers were closed midweek, and for the many diabetics, insulin requires refrigeration or ice. Indeed some of the 5 million Puerto Ricans living stateside now struggle to get relatives with medical needs out.

There is something abhorrent in the spinning of news when so many lives are at stake. Trump touted that only 16 had died, then after he left the official count rose to 34. But news estimates are much higher and the current death toll is impossible to determine. Some rural areas still remain completely isolated. Local food sovereignty activists on the ground see risk of starvation. There have been calls for a massive airlift.

San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz now calls for a 10-year moratorium, while others pitch debt forgiveness. Even Trump called for canceling the debt, though presidents don’t have the constitutional power to do so–likely just more spin. The National Hispanic Leadership Agenda is promoting a Marshall Plan that requires $70 billion.

What Puerto Rico needs is a Marshall plan and debt forgiveness–not loans. If post-hurricane policies do not veer radically, expect more Exodus. The destination of displaced Puerto Rican U.S. citizens will be the soon-to-be Blue State of Florida. And then María will most definitely be Trump’s Katrina.


-trump-vs-puerto-rico_us_

Well, I always have said I'll debate at your, or anyone's, level. So what do you expect?

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 9:50:08 AM   
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It went over your head, no wonder you cant actually debate.




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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/7/2017 2:58:08 PM   
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It went over your head, no wonder you cant actually debate.


Nnanji needs Bosco to hold his hand to help him debate, Lucy.

I have offered him several opportunities. He has ignored them all.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/12/2017 5:22:37 PM   
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Today, Trump tweeted "We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!”

Except, you know, we have a fucking Army base in PR. Kinda dumb, considering that it's an island, surrounded by water. You'd think a Navy base more appropriate.

Not sure what he means by 'first responders'. Kinda sounds like he plans on taking the island's police & paramedics when they pull FEMA. And FEMA has barely started on what's needed to help the island to recover.

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/12/2017 5:34:21 PM   
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you should watch maddows piece on it from last night.
its long, almost 20 minutes
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/maddow-bad-leadership-turned-puerto-rico-crisis-into-catastrophe-1070939715852

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RE: Trump's Response to Devastation in Puerto Rico: Wai... - 10/12/2017 5:45:58 PM   
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I don't like her enough to watch for 20 minutes. Sorry.

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