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JVoV -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 4:40:00 AM)
Greta, I would love to have a reason for this senseless loss of life. I would love nothing more than to have someone to blame, and to punish in the way only a Toby Keith song could describe. Even better if there's enough of them to carpetbomb off the face of the planet. But it was a single shooter. And he took his own life. There won't be a trial, and there will never be justice. The FBI and local police will investigate every possible angle, to try to come up with a reason. Phone records and computers will be combed through. But we won't just take ISIS at their word for a damn thing anymore. We Americans are dangerous enough on our own. We don't need no stinkin ISIS.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 4:48:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV But it was a single shooter. And he took his own life. There won't be a trial, and there will never be justice. I agree that his dead and there will never be justice. Even if his alive, there couldn't be enough justice for what he did. Whether they jail him for life or electrocute him to death. He wanted to kill alot of people and take them down with him as he already decided to die. Maybe it was his final bucket list and he has always fantasized about doing this. quote: The FBI and local police will investigate every possible angle, to try to come up with a reason. Phone records and computers will be combed through. But we won't just take ISIS at their word for a damn thing anymore. I am awaiting for their conclusion. But they have deem the GF not of a concern. Very fast they eliminated her. And I feel the GF is the one closest to him past few years. He cared enough for her to send make tens of thousands of dollars money transfer into Philippines, which I assume is for her family or her. She might have clues. And as for prevention. Complicated situation for the US with easy access to guns. But Hotels should have metal detectors at entrances so that someone couldn't possibly load up 10 luggage worth of serious fire power.

bounty44 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 4:50:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 greta---for the most part, accents are accents and you cannot necessarily differentiate skin color based on them. But in the US, Black people accent is totally different from White People accent, EVEN if they grew up in the same state. This part is very prominent to me in the US. Which is strange to me since Black People has no second language. In my country, Indian/Malay/and different dialect chinese all have different English Accent, but that's because of our mother tongue, so our mother tongue influence the way we speak English. quote: and country music as a genre is incredibly eclectic and in many cases, at least to the average music listener, fairly indistinguishable from pop and rock. I guess you are referring to Taylor Swift who claims to be country. no, im referring to all of country music. much of it is indistinguishable from pop and rock. again, differences in accents for any southern region are not necessarily tied to race, that is, they are not genetic. if differences are discernible, they are tied to other factors, like socio-economic status, education, etc. if all those things are controlled for, and perhaps in instances even when they are not, accent wise, a black man from Tennessee will sound like a white man from Tennessee. as an aside while im here, generically speaking there is a "southern accent" but people from all the southern states sound different from each other. much like people in England can identify their countrymen from their accents, people with good ears hear can discern a difference between someone from texas and someone from Virginia for instance. while im here: "What Authorities Found in the Vegas Shooter's Home" oh no comrades, townhall? quote: Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo offered new information at a press conference Monday afternoon following the deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas. The motive is still unknown, but authorities have raided the shooter's home in Mesquite, Nevada and made some startling discoveries. NEW: Las Vegas Sheriff says 18 firearms, explosives, and several thousand rounds of ammo recovered from Vegas shooter's home. — Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) October 2, 2017 He also had ammonium nitrate in his car, and over a dozen more guns in his hotel room. Clark County, Nevada Fire Department Chief Greg Cassell added that he has "never" seen so much ammo in one individual's possession before… https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/10/02/more-information-on-vegas-shooter-n2389754

bounty44 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 5:51:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Don't bother, greta knows more than the FBI [8\|] shes not saying, or for that matter, even HINTING that she knows more than the fbi. the fbi hasn't found evidence of a connection yet, and since they cannot totally discount one, she's justified in holding to her belief. given that, and how simple it is to understand that, what you said doesn't follow. all it is, is an attempt to belittle greta. didn't I just read in the librarian thread your use of the phrase "ignorant fuckwit?"

JVoV -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 6:19:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 greta---for the most part, accents are accents and you cannot necessarily differentiate skin color based on them. But in the US, Black people accent is totally different from White People accent, EVEN if they grew up in the same state. This part is very prominent to me in the US. Which is strange to me since Black People has no second language. In my country, Indian/Malay/and different dialect chinese all have different English Accent, but that's because of our mother tongue, so our mother tongue influence the way we speak English. quote: and country music as a genre is incredibly eclectic and in many cases, at least to the average music listener, fairly indistinguishable from pop and rock. I guess you are referring to Taylor Swift who claims to be country. no, im referring to all of country music. much of it is indistinguishable from pop and rock. again, differences in accents for any southern region are not necessarily tied to race, that is, they are not genetic. if differences are discernible, they are tied to other factors, like socio-economic status, education, etc. if all those things are controlled for, and perhaps in instances even when they are not, accent wise, a black man from Tennessee will sound like a white man from Tennessee. as an aside while im here, generically speaking there is a "southern accent" but people from all the southern states sound different from each other. much like people in England can identify their countrymen from their accents, people with good ears hear can discern a difference between someone from texas and someone from Virginia for instance. while im here: "What Authorities Found in the Vegas Shooter's Home" oh no comrades, townhall? quote: Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo offered new information at a press conference Monday afternoon following the deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas. The motive is still unknown, but authorities have raided the shooter's home in Mesquite, Nevada and made some startling discoveries. NEW: Las Vegas Sheriff says 18 firearms, explosives, and several thousand rounds of ammo recovered from Vegas shooter's home. — Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) October 2, 2017 He also had ammonium nitrate in his car, and over a dozen more guns in his hotel room. Clark County, Nevada Fire Department Chief Greg Cassell added that he has "never" seen so much ammo in one individual's possession before… https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/10/02/more-information-on-vegas-shooter-n2389754 Accents are mostly regional, not racial. I tend to speak with a Southern twang. I probably come into contact with more black people that talk like me on a regular basis than I do that talk like the black folks on TV, that are more urbanized.

JVoV -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 6:22:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV But it was a single shooter. And he took his own life. There won't be a trial, and there will never be justice. I agree that his dead and there will never be justice. Even if his alive, there couldn't be enough justice for what he did. Whether they jail him for life or electrocute him to death. He wanted to kill alot of people and take them down with him as he already decided to die. Maybe it was his final bucket list and he has always fantasized about doing this. quote: The FBI and local police will investigate every possible angle, to try to come up with a reason. Phone records and computers will be combed through. But we won't just take ISIS at their word for a damn thing anymore. I am awaiting for their conclusion. But they have deem the GF not of a concern. Very fast they eliminated her. And I feel the GF is the one closest to him past few years. He cared enough for her to send make tens of thousands of dollars money transfer into Philippines, which I assume is for her family or her. She might have clues. And as for prevention. Complicated situation for the US with easy access to guns. But Hotels should have metal detectors at entrances so that someone couldn't possibly load up 10 luggage worth of serious fire power. OK, so why do you feel the girlfriend is a concern? She has an alibi. I'm sure she'll be questioned in time, like the nearest & dearest always are, when all you can do is try to make sense out of these things. But she had no active part in the tragic events of the night.

heavyblinker -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 6:43:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 the fbi hasn't found evidence of a connection yet, and since they cannot totally discount one, she's justified in holding to her belief. given that, and how simple it is to understand that, what you said doesn't follow. all it is, is an attempt to belittle greta. [8\|] Yeah, that's some solid logic right there. Oh hey, I say it was YOU who made him do it. Because the fbi hasn't found evidence of a connection yet, and since they cannot totally discount one, I am justified in holding to my belief. How could you do that, you piece of shit? You should burn in hell. As I said in the other thread, it's better if you just post townhall... when you go it on your own, you just humiliate yourself.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 7:19:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JVoV OK, so why do you feel the girlfriend is a concern? She has an alibi. I'm sure she'll be questioned in time, like the nearest & dearest always are, when all you can do is try to make sense out of these things. But she had no active part in the tragic events of the night. I have already explained that in many previous posts. And I don't feel like explaining again. We will see if she even will ever enter America again.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 7:23:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/10/02/more-information-on-vegas-shooter-n2389754 This Town Hall Thingy mentions one interesting thing. Brother Eric says his brother is not an avid gun owner. YET he has freaking ALOT of guns at home. Yes, something is fishy and somebody is lying. Or either Brother Eric is not close to his brother at all and never been to his home. GF should know better whether how he is with guns. Soooo many questions that they need to ask the woman LIVING with him!

Real0ne -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 7:51:57 AM)
when there is no motive for going postal, the next place to look is did he have any connections to the cia, fbi, mi6, mossad, interpol etc etc etc. or someone that was involved with one of these agencies.

bounty44 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 7:53:13 AM)
I read an account earlier on townhall (oh no comrades!) that the brother was dumbfounded by the whole thing and in that, your latter explanation is the more likely---that is, they weren't really close, talked regularly although somewhat occasionally, and there was no hint that anything like this was in the works.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 8:21:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne when there is no motive for going postal, the next place to look is did he have any connections to the cia, fbi, mi6, mossad, interpol etc etc etc. or someone that was involved with one of these agencies. If he does, then it's all screwed, everything will be covered up, and nobody will ever know.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 8:24:57 AM)
I think a good gun control is compromise is limiting the number of guns a person can own. And there should be a National registry so all gun shops would have access to it to know if this man reached his gun buying limit and can't get anymore! The amount of guns he had is abit insane! On top of that, I was reading articles that the gun shops who sold him guns denied that anything they sold him was capable of the damage that shooting did. They all claim he got it modified elsewhere. And if he did, who does these modifications? Are these modifications legal? I mean seriously, how many different type of guns does one person need for day to day protection?

Nnanji -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:00:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji It seems your grandpa McCoy act has been discredited down to insulting a person from a foreign culture whose primary language isn't English. Good for you. You've found your niche. No, she is insisting on facts that have already been discredited, and as for her language comprehension, the official languages of her country are English, Tamil, Malay and Standard Mandarin. So, yes she understands English quite well, since it is taught her the school system she grew up with. However, she is insisting the shooter was Muslim based on a claim by ISIS which has discredited, and even gone so far as to state that the man's girlfriend is the one radicalized if he isnt. Every time there is a shooting incident in the US, her first claim is that the shooter was Islamic, followed by we are all in denial even when it was proven the shooter wasnt. As far as insulting Greta, it is not an insult to state facts already in evidence, placed in evidence by her own posts, and her arguments when she has been proven wrong repeatedly by more than one user of these boards. IF I wanted to insult her, I would have repeated what has already been said, she would be closed minded, if she had a mind. However, my opinion is that if the truth does not fit whatever parameters she has already established as real, then she refuses to accept the truth, even if her premise was false to begin with. In that respect she is no different than those in the Catholic church who condemned Nicolaus Copernicus as a heretic for proposing that the earth orbited the sun. What was it? 200 years before that changed? In that respect, she is no different that conservatives who point to Islam and its followers as the reason the world is going to hell. She is intolerant, prejudiced, and closed minded. The only two people I have seen worse are Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh. The difference is that both of those men have been successfully sued for pushing the same type of conspiracy theories, or to avoid a lawsuit, publicly admit they were wrong and the stuff they were saying was not based in truth but bullshit. Lol, you defend yourself as not being insulting...by insulting. It's your niche.

Nnanji -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:06:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker No, Greta... they want to do everything they can to divide Non-Muslims and Muslims. They want people to be more like you-- to want to send the Muslims into the arms of ISIS by convincing them that they will never be accepted by Non-Muslims. Islam is by nature a divisive religion. A vegetarian can still sit on the same table as a meat eater. And the meat eater can eat their meat and the vegetarian will eat their vegetables. But a Muslim cannot sit at the same table as a non-Muslim. IF pork is serve. Even if they ate their different respective food. THIS itself is already divisive. That's just blatantly fucking wrong. I had Muslim friends in college-- they sat with us, they socialized with us, one guy even helped me move and then refused any payback whatsoever. Obviously they had their thing like we had our thing, but it didn't stop anyone from getting along. If anything, they were even more willing to put up with other people's bullshit. YOU are the one who is dividing people with your ignorance and fear. Ah, good, you are the expert. A Muslim helped you move back home to mumsey after college. Makes you much more knowledgeable than Greta who grew up with them.

heavyblinker -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:21:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Ah, good, you are the expert. A Muslim helped you move back home to mumsey after college. Makes you much more knowledgeable than Greta who grew up with them. I didn't say that I was an expert, Nancy. I said that I knew Muslims who sat and ate at the same table as I did, which is something that Greta claimed was against their religion. You weren't following the conversation, as always. All you ever really do is look for places to slip in some of your trademark stupidity and insults.

Nnanji -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:25:04 AM)
[sm=LMAO.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji Ah, good, you are the expert. A Muslim helped you move back home to mumsey after college. Makes you much more knowledgeable than Greta who grew up with them. I didn't say that I was an expert, Nancy. I said that I knew Muslims who sat and ate at the same table as I did, which is something that Greta claimed was against their religion. You weren't following the conversation, as always. All you ever really do is look for places to slip in some of your trademark stupidity and insults. [sm=LMAO.gif]

Rule -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:38:21 AM)
He does not appear to have been descended from a population that circumcizes their male offspring; though in the USA one can not know such a thing for certain. In any case his father Benjamin Hoskins Paddock Jr may have been a psychopath. (I see no indications for him having been a sociopath.) So my best guess is that Stephen Craig Paddock was a psychopath. (Though his meticulous planning does suggest that he was a sociopath.)

WhoreMods -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:41:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker I said that I knew Muslims who sat and ate at the same table as I did, which is something that Greta claimed was against their religion. They've also sold me booze and pork, which I'm told the prophet frowns upon as well. (Not pron, though if they'd had any on sale in any of the supermarkets or ~~Paki cornershops~~micromarts where I've been served by a moslem till operator I'd've bought the other stuff from them in the name of completion.) Nancy (I shall have to remember that one) and Greta are arguing that all moslems are fundamentalists. Greta, at least has the excuse that she lives in Singapore, where a fair chunk of the moslem population are nostalgic for the fourteenth century, while Nancy lives in a western democracy where a lot of the moslem immigrants are people who are rather more integration minded, and actually came over here to get away from that shit.

JVoV -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/3/2017 9:42:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 I think a good gun control is compromise is limiting the number of guns a person can own. And there should be a National registry so all gun shops would have access to it to know if this man reached his gun buying limit and can't get anymore! The amount of guns he had is abit insane! On top of that, I was reading articles that the gun shops who sold him guns denied that anything they sold him was capable of the damage that shooting did. They all claim he got it modified elsewhere. And if he did, who does these modifications? Are these modifications legal? I mean seriously, how many different type of guns does one person need for day to day protection? I own a total of 73 guns, and I'm a freakin liberal. All legal, and registered to me. My father was an avid collector, so I got his toys when he passed. And every time some damn foreigner says 'Americans have too many guns', I feel like buying a new one.

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