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Huh? I have not read anything about his bad treatment of his GF. He gave her 100k to make sure she will be financially okay before he did this massacre. Sent her to Philippines for her safety. And according to the GF Family and the Killer's brother. They all say the same thing that he dotes on his GF ALOT. And really loves her and treats her well.

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I only wish we could ban stupidity.
Then you wouldn't be able to post anymore.

Yes, and you could pick and choose who to ban. Then you could show everyone just how smart you are by having all the people left allowed to post agree with you and tell you how smart and pretty you are. Mumsey would be pleased with you then wouldn't she?

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he has trouble with big smart words.
so he has to put words in your mouth.

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he has trouble with big smart words.
so he has to put words in your mouth.

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Isn't it interesting that Crocodile Dundee rants ad infinitum about "leftist fuckwits" until we have a gun thread.


then he BECOMES ONE.

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I think a good gun control is compromise is limiting the number of guns a person can own. And there should be a National registry so all gun shops would have access to it to know if this man reached his gun buying limit and can't get anymore! The amount of guns he had is abit insane! On top of that, I was reading articles that the gun shops who sold him guns denied that anything they sold him was capable of the damage that shooting did. They all claim he got it modified elsewhere. And if he did, who does these modifications? Are these modifications legal?

I mean seriously, how many different type of guns does one person need for day to day protection?

I own a total of 73 guns, and I'm a freakin liberal. All legal, and registered to me. My father was an avid collector, so I got his toys when he passed.

And every time some damn foreigner says 'Americans have too many guns', I feel like buying a new one.

But do you have to collect guns that can actually "shoot"? Couldn't they just look exactly like guns but cannot work practically? I mean, why do you need soooo many guns that work?

If it's just for display and collection and appreciation of it's beauty?

It's not like you actually play with all 73 of them regularly!

And anyway right. I come from a country with zero gun ownership and zero mass gun shooting incidents. It actually works to prevent such things from happening. That's the practical reality of it!

So if you are really feeling sorry for the country music festival folks, can't you sacrifice your guns a little to prevent another such a mass massacre again?

I am just suggesting a compromise. This gun registry limits each person to 3 guns maybe. And the rest of the guns, they gotta buy dummy guns, if they want more for beauty and collection.

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FR
This dude just camp at the top of a building and sniped. And managed to kill 50?

That's alot! It would need super accurate shooting from that distance and like, he had alot of time to keep shooting before he was found. Ex-Military?

But the big question. What was his beef against country music? Why specifically target country music lovers?

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I actually am a hater of country music. And have no idea who Jason Aldean is.

The only country musician I notice is Blake Shelton from the voice because he is just my type of guy in size and physique and I only know him from The Voice.

But I can't stand anything he sings. It's country!

It isn't all dreck like Garth Brooks or Miley's dad, Greta.
(I don't know any of Jason Aldean's stuff myself, but it's hard not to feel sorry for the guy over this. It's the very last way you'd want to get on the news as a working musician, isn't it?)

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My condolences to the families of the dead and injured.

I have trouble even thinking of a motivation. I agree that jumping to conclusions on that aren't helpful at this time. Better to wait for information.

Motivations aside, the guy might have been crazy for wanting to kill all of those people, but he wasn't stupid. I see this as a well executed plan. Huge outdoor music festival like that, positioned himself in a place that gave him an advantage to do a lot of damage while not being on the concert grounds, himself, etc. It's horrific.

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Why? The ACLU is an organization the protects 1st Amendment Rights. The NRA is an organization that protects 2nd Amendment rights. Do you think the ACLU should police what people are going to say?

Because the second amendment that they are protecting is the cause of this massacre. So they should take some responsibility on making some recommendations on how such things can be prevented since their job is to make sure everyone coexist with guns happily.

And also, how is US suppose to protect themselves from Islamic Lone Wolves who is gonna stock pile weapons and plot to kill alot of people when more and more Lone Wolves like this dude is gonna have clean records and be very good at covering their tracks?

"The Right to Bear Arms" doesn't specifically say "The Right to Bear any kind or any amount of Arms" right? There could be more control.

Maybe even semi-automatic should be ban.

PS: You know the situation with Terrorist using Trucks? You know what our country is doing in response? Despite not having our first terrorist car or truck ramming yet. We are putting bollards everywhere now on any potential vehicle ramming area.

The point is, something has to be done to prevent the next one!

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No, he had a room in the Mandalay hotel/casino, on the 32nd floor. So he was a spree killer with some idea of style since those rooms run $100 a night for a king room.

Why are all you guys saying 32nd floor AS IF that is very near to the crowd? If the crowd was on the ground and he is at 32nd storey, that's freaking far away! That's why I thought he sniped.

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It really isn't even so inconceivable that he got really drunk and it just seemed like a good idea at the time.

Actually, I find that quite plausible. Perhaps: Booze, plus some gripe that had put him in a bad mood that night particularly ... on top of many years of growing misanthropic anger.

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last point---there ARE black country singers.

If you don't like Charlie Pride, there's something wrong.

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greta---for the most part, accents are accents and you cannot necessarily differentiate skin color based on them.

But in the US, Black people accent is totally different from White People accent, EVEN if they grew up in the same state. This part is very prominent to me in the US. Which is strange to me since Black People has no second language. In my country, Indian/Malay/and different dialect chinese all have different English Accent, but that's because of our mother tongue, so our mother tongue influence the way we speak English.

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and country music as a genre is incredibly eclectic and in many cases, at least to the average music listener, fairly indistinguishable from pop and rock.

I guess you are referring to Taylor Swift who claims to be country.

no, im referring to all of country music. much of it is indistinguishable from pop and rock.

again, differences in accents for any southern region are not necessarily tied to race, that is, they are not genetic.

if differences are discernible, they are tied to other factors, like socio-economic status, education, etc. if all those things are controlled for, and perhaps in instances even when they are not, accent wise, a black man from Tennessee will sound like a white man from Tennessee.

as an aside while im here, generically speaking there is a "southern accent" but people from all the southern states sound different from each other. much like people in England can identify their countrymen from their accents, people with good ears hear can discern a difference between someone from texas and someone from Virginia for instance.

while im here:

"What Authorities Found in the Vegas Shooter's Home"

oh no comrades, townhall?

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Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo offered new information at a press conference Monday afternoon following the deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas. The motive is still unknown, but authorities have raided the shooter's home in Mesquite, Nevada and made some startling discoveries.


NEW: Las Vegas Sheriff says 18 firearms, explosives, and several thousand rounds of ammo recovered from Vegas shooter's home.
— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) October 2, 2017

He also had ammonium nitrate in his car, and over a dozen more guns in his hotel room.

Clark County, Nevada Fire Department Chief Greg Cassell added that he has "never" seen so much ammo in one individual's possession before…

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/10/02/more-information-on-vegas-shooter-n2389754

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Al queda is taking responsibility saying he recently converted to islam but the fbi isn't confirming it.

ISIS too. Propaganda. He acted alone and without any jihadist overtones. Plus converting to Islam for their kind of terrorist...is not enough. This is not a terrorist thing, this is a gun control thing.

Now don't worry, this is not all going to happen soon, this is a slow step-by-step process where you won't have to but your kids and almost certainly their kids, will quietly and willingly give up their guns. (to join the rest of the invalidated BoR)

Oh and carrying a cross...wrapped in a flag.

It doesn't make sense that someone who supports gun control would do this. It may turn into a gun control discussion, but it doesn't really make sense that that was the gunman's motive.

Well the one thing we do know, is that we...will never know for sure. But I am not convinced this guy wasn't clinically ill which if so, means he...could do anything and unpredictably so. And now the whole gun control debate keeps raging.

It appears that the killer/shooter "snapped" and was mentally ill or at the very least seriously depressed.
In either case, the fact that he was able to obtain all these high powered rifles AND get them into a 5 star hotel is troubling.

ANYONE can get depressed, become mentally ill or snap.

True enough. Maybe we need better 'people control' in maybe, every way concerning guns.

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It really isn't even so inconceivable that he got really drunk and it just seemed like a good idea at the time.

Actually, I find that quite plausible. Perhaps: Booze, plus some gripe that had put him in a bad mood that night particularly ... on top of many years of growing misanthropic anger.

Went drinking with 20 guns, get real.