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Nnanji -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/8/2017 10:02:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant Lady P, you have to realize that you're dealing with someone who thinks everybody on here who is on the right...from Bosco to Bounty to me to anybody from the right...is a RWNJ . His main mode of posting seems to run to offensive hostility. You ARE an RWNJ. And of course, everyone on the forum would be so polite and respectful if it weren't for me. There's only two reasons you consider me one: 1. I'm on the right...hence nut job 2. I don't agree with you I never said you were the only impolite one. I just...correctly...noted that your usual modus operandi is offensive hostility. And right now you're definitely taking the high ground and contributing so much to the argument. Let's face it, you and Nancy are full of glee because LP is apparently popular here and she laughed in my face when I said something. Then to make it even sweeter for you, I was ganged up on by some of my fellow libruls and called a victim-blamer (which doesn't even make sense). I can only imagine how elated you were when finally you sensed weakness and could move in for the kill. Oh what a great guy you are... how totally noble. The idea that anyone would be upset about personal attacks on a forum this bad is absurd. So, you come here because you actually enjoy the totally logical debates everyone has? Please. Oh dear Google boy, of course it doesn't make sense to you.

BlackSinMaster -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/8/2017 11:28:42 AM)
He already knows you to be lying fuk Tehee and fuking mutt monster with a well worn track record of talking pish and being wanted by no one like me or HBYou are lying fuker are you not and mentally ill- well you belittle them often enough with yourt twisted sickness, where only fuking messes come to you defense, whilst lying through you fuking teeth Fist bump? Ladygarbagepact Heh peon screamed he will back up here plethora of lies – what a jolly decent fellow

JVoV -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/8/2017 4:55:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 hey blinker, a "must see" post for you over on the "original arguments" thread, page 6, wouldn't want you to miss it. enjoy... while im here, I saw greg gutfeld last night suggest the potential of drones as security for large open air events. I imagine they can be fitted with sensors to detect certain activity and weapons to be able to respond more quickly than physical bodies. I see many issues with weaponized drones, especially in the private and corporate sectors. The issue is supposed to be in front of Congress this session, to define what a 'drone' actually is, and what it can legally do, as well as whether the FAA would have jurisdiction on them or not. Good luck with Congress taking it on. If police budgets were adequate, using drones for video, including night vision and/or infrared, could target an active shooter faster than police on foot, in a similar situation. But not all police matters or security issues require lethal solutions. And it would be difficult to identify any hostages that may have been taken, instead of including them as a suspect. Now, how many police drone pilots would be trained? Would they be subject for a suspension pending review every time they fire the drone's gun? That would be the equivalant of taking an entire SWAT team out of commission, if the police come to depend on the drones, yet is there another option?

bounty44 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/8/2017 5:13:06 PM)
I suspects its like most things with technology. the tech itself outpaces the ethical and pragmatic questions associated with its use but I see great potential. and I suspect they can be fitted with "defensive" weapons also---blinding light, tear gas, smoke, etc.

JVoV -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/8/2017 6:13:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 I suspects its like most things with technology. the tech itself outpaces the ethical and pragmatic questions associated with its use but I see great potential. and I suspect they can be fitted with "defensive" weapons also---blinding light, tear gas, smoke, etc. But can any of that de-escalate the situation enough to prevent more shooting before SWAT arrives?

tj444 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/8/2017 7:31:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 I believe the gf that she didnt know, given that according to some articles he was rude to her and she seemed to know to let him have his way on things, & be on the submissive side... he had money and seems to have had an (overbearing) attitude to go with that.. I believe her when she said that she thought the reason for the money he sent her, the trip, etc was cuz she thought he planned to dump her.. many women in that same position would think that too.. In a weird way, he did dump her... (Assuming he has one) I wonder what his will says, who he leaves his money etc to.. (of course that money will likely be tied up in court for some time).. You are the second person who said THIS! Where is this article that claim that he didn't treat her well? Her own family said he adored the hell out of her. A man who bothered sending her away to safety and telling her to buy herself a house with 100k in Philippines. By the way, 100k in Philippines, you can really live in luxury. Is clearly not a man who was mean to her. Didnt you go on and on and on about how you were sure she was a Muslim & with ISIS and in on this with him???? If she wanted to live in the Philippines she would never have lived in Australia for 20 or so years and then for years here in the US (where she has a daughter & grandkids).. so while 100k might go far in that shithole, it doesnt go very far here.. so really, he was a pretty cheap bastard trying to throw only 100k (out of his millions) at her (to get rid of her).. Yeah, he sounds like a real peach.. throw a few bucks at a problem and it will go away.. and at her age & now with this notoriety, it might take her a bit to find another multi-millionaire to shack up with to get her that high-rolling lifestyle again..

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 12:25:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 Didnt you go on and on and on about how you were sure she was a Muslim & with ISIS and in on this with him???? .................he was a pretty cheap bastard trying to throw only 100k (out of his millions) at her (to get rid of her).. Precisely because he has a loving relationship with her. That's why he converted to Islam. My theory all has logical conclusion. But where is your proof that he ill treats her? Dude you call 100k cheap? He was only worth 2 million dollars okay? I think 100k is rather generous. Especially in Philippines, enough for her to have a big house and several maids to serve her hand and foot for life. Men who call this dude cheap won't even give their girlfriend a single cent IF they dump her! I mean how much of your net worth did you donate to the last girlfriend you left? On top of that, are you saying ALL decent boyfriends should give their girlfriends a large sum of his money just because he dumps her? She has benefited being with him too, and had a lifestyle upgrade. But she was not owed that lifestyle.

BamaD -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:08:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 Didnt you go on and on and on about how you were sure she was a Muslim & with ISIS and in on this with him???? .................he was a pretty cheap bastard trying to throw only 100k (out of his millions) at her (to get rid of her).. Precisely because he has a loving relationship with her. That's why he converted to Islam. My theory all has logical conclusion. But where is your proof that he ill treats her? Dude you call 100k cheap? He was only worth 2 million dollars okay? I think 100k is rather generous. Especially in Philippines, enough for her to have a big house and several maids to serve her hand and foot for life. Men who call this dude cheap won't even give their girlfriend a single cent IF they dump her! I mean how much of your net worth did you donate to the last girlfriend you left? On top of that, are you saying ALL decent boyfriends should give their girlfriends a large sum of his money just because he dumps her? She has benefited being with him too, and had a lifestyle upgrade. But she was not owed that lifestyle. Where did you get that he converted to Islam?

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:11:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Where did you get that he converted to Islam? I was responding to TJ saying that I am accusing this dude of his GF being the Muslim and converting him. Plus ANYWAY, ISIS claim he convert to Islam 6 months ago. For his GF not to blow her cover, she has to look like she looks right now too. Seemingly innocent. My whole theory is. He loves his GF. And his GF may be an ISIS agent. TJ claims he was mean to his GF but has no proof of article that said so. He considers donating 100k to her "abusive". On top of that. IF the GF main home is Australia. Why not send the money to an Australian Bank? Why Philippines? Where is ISIS base? Philippines. They got a strong base there.

heavyblinker -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:18:58 AM)
From her mind. The Islam connection makes absolutely no sense at all at this point. If he were an extremist, he would have openly, happily, eagerly shared that fact with the public somehow. We still have nothing.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:20:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker From her mind. The Islam connection makes absolutely no sense at all at this point. If he were an extremist, he would have openly, happily, eagerly shared that fact with the public somehow. We still have nothing. I disagree. It is not inline with his personality. He is a very private man who doesn't talk much. I mean his brother doesn't even know he owns guns! Whatever he does, it is just for himself, and his faith. Not to brag to the world why or what he did for.

heavyblinker -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:32:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker From her mind. The Islam connection makes absolutely no sense at all at this point. If he were an extremist, he would have openly, happily, eagerly shared that fact with the public somehow. We still have nothing. I disagree. It is not inline with his personality. He is a very private man who doesn't talk much. I mean his brother doesn't even know he owns guns! Whatever he does, it is just for himself, and his faith. Not to brag to the world why or what he did for. Greta, when have Islamic extremists willing to die for their cause NOT let everyone know that that is what they are doing? Plus, the girlfriend was Catholic, like a lot of people in the Philippines. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-sent-girlfriend-marilou-danley-away-spare-her-n807341 quote: A former boyfriend of one of the sisters, Adam Le Fevre, told NBC News that Danley had two previous marriages — one to a boxer in Australia, and the other to an American — before meeting Paddock in a casino. Le Fevre said that Danley, a Catholic devoted to her family, was "very different" than Paddock, a methodical casino gambler who used algorithms and spreadsheets. "She's not very confident," Le Fevre said. "She had a little Subaru Forester and she would go three blocks out of her way so she didn't have to turn left or cross a big intersection." "I wouldn't say [their relationship] was lovey dovey," he speculated. "It always seemed to me to be one of convenience." So was she a radical Catholic extremist? Or are she and this Adam LeFevre guy lying about her being a Catholic? She's 'not very confident', and yet completely transformed the way this very successful, calculating man sees the world?

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:40:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker Greta, when have Islamic extremists willing to die for their cause NOT let everyone know that that is what they are doing? Plus, the girlfriend was Catholic, like a lot of people in the Philippines. How often do you see a white muslim that is not middle eastern white committing terrorist act? This guy will not be a usual Muslim, so I don't expect him to be as bragging. That's why ISIS is bragging on his behalf. His character is not like that. If he believed in anything, it would be between him and himself. And all Filipinos are born by default Catholic. Doesn't mean they can't change later quietly. This was obviously a sophisticated planning compared to other sloppy terrorist plannings. We are dealing with people of higher intelligence and Stephan was a very smart man who knew what he was doing and very measured, and did his homework on how to execute this whole thing carefully. I think he was meticulous to details. And a man like him would also probably wouldn't just date any simple minded woman. She would have to stimulate his mind. I find it very interesting that this woman who was brought up in Australia and had 2 past marriages, worked in the type of a job in the casino where you gotta entertain high rollers, which means, you can't be some simple minded Filipino, is now pretending to be some simple minded uneducated Filipino. That is alarm bells to me. And the way she spoke to her brother, saying that, "Don't worry, I will fix this!" Is not this timid mousy woman they are describing her as, AS IF She's some third world submissive woman who had no education. This woman is calm as hell. And was not even hysterical over what happened. Her reaction is seriously, not of a woman with "no confidence", but a rather worldly woman who knows what she is doing.

heavyblinker -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:51:33 AM)
Greta, you need to give up on this. Everyone who knew her described her as a caring, gentle, loving person who was interested in her family, going on trips, exercise, etc. She wasn't a genius, she wasn't full of rage, she wasn't edgy or dark or political. As far as everyone knows, she's still a Catholic. I really don't think there are any laws in the Philippines that make everyone Catholic at birth. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever that suggests either she or Paddock had any ties to Islam, let alone extremists. There wasn't even anything that suggested even a passing interest in Islam. The articles say that everyone interviewed thinks Danley would have tried to stop the shooting if she had been there. Paddock's biggest interest seemed to be gambling... and apparently also guns. I get that you've invested a lot of time in this and Muslim-hating in general, but it really shouldn't be this difficult to accept that mass shootings happen for reasons other than Islamic extremism.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 1:56:13 AM)
You forgot that nobody even knows Stephan is interested in guns. Yet he has been attending gun shows, shopping at gun shops with his girlfriend and been collecting guns for 10 whole years, and all his family and his "in laws" all claim there is no way he is into guns. So reality is. People don't know their family or their friends as well as they think they do. Many terrorists never had signs, and were normal nice people. For them to be successful. They need to live a double life. I believe 100% his girlfriend is in on it. She lived with him for more than 10 years. He started gun collection for 10 years. Come on! Why were both them so intent on making sure, her family and his family never finds out they are into guns?

Lucylastic -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 2:17:16 AM)
is this like you telling us that charlie gard had been taken off life support and lived? How many terrorists have you met or know, that you can say they have to live double lives? Yanno that goes for crooks of all mentalities? its called "not getting caught". You can convince yourself of anything greta,(and it shows) others need facts to make statements like yours. It isnt the story of bonnie n clyde

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 2:22:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic is this like you telling us that charlie gard had been taken off life support and lived? How many terrorists have you met or know, that you can say they have to live double lives? Yanno that goes for crooks of all mentalities? its called "not getting caught". You can convince yourself of anything greta,(and it shows) others need facts to make statements like yours. It isnt the story of bonnie n clyde There is logical conclusion to this scenario. Literally here is a man who is totally into guns and have been showing interest in them for 10 years and is open with his GF about it because he takes her with him gun shopping. That both their families are shock about, that they would even care about guns. How is this not a double life? How is a Filipino woman pretending to be timid and no confidence, be able to tell her own brother confidently and assuredly, "Don't worry, I got this under control!" Especially right after her brother heard the news and phone her up worried about her. She was so calm and confident in her response to him. Like no big deal.

Lucylastic -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 2:40:53 AM)
greta, no, logic isnt your strong suit... you are getting desperate. and its showing.

Greta75 -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 3:15:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic greta, no, logic isnt your strong suit... you are getting desperate. and its showing. When I explain through all my logical conclusion why Trump will win the election. You called me desperate too. Think about that. Besides, with Charlie Gard case, they held a baby with a fast deteriorating brain hostage from treatment for like 9 whole months denying the baby treatment! By the time the alternative doctor flew in and check on the baby, it's too late to fix it! Most people in critical condition won't even last 9 months if they were denied treatment.

Lucylastic -> RE: Las Vegas shooting unfolding now (10/9/2017 3:37:28 AM)
you do talk a bunch of shit.

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