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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Lol, tin foil hats for everyone.

As leftists make thought crime laws reality I wonder where all of the bills are in congress to jail flag burners.

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Lol, tin foil hats for everyone.

As leftists make thought crime laws reality I wonder where all of the bills are in congress to jail flag burners.

If we're talking about thought crimes, let's discuss the crap about the Satanist conspiracy running the media that was going around for the whole of the '80s once Saint Ronnie handed the Republican party over to the religious right.
We could mention how criticism of Dubya was a good way to get blacklisted by the "liberal" media conspiracy for the first eight years of this century as well.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Lol, tin foil hats for everyone.

As leftists make thought crime laws reality I wonder where all of the bills are in congress to jail flag burners.

If we're talking about thought crimes, let's discuss the crap about the Satanist conspiracy running the media that was going around for the whole of the '80s once Saint Ronnie handed the Republican party over to the religious right.
We could mention how criticism of Dubya was a good way to get blacklisted by the "liberal" media conspiracy for the first eight years of this century as well.

If you'll try and recall, Reagan and W haven't been president in years. Get over it.

And while you're trying to get over it, while you won't like this source, take a gander at this:

https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes1.html

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Lol, tin foil hats for everyone.

As leftists make thought crime laws reality I wonder where all of the bills are in congress to jail flag burners.

If we're talking about thought crimes, let's discuss the crap about the Satanist conspiracy running the media that was going around for the whole of the '80s once Saint Ronnie handed the Republican party over to the religious right.
We could mention how criticism of Dubya was a good way to get blacklisted by the "liberal" media conspiracy for the first eight years of this century as well.

If you'll try and recall, Reagan and W haven't been president in years. Get over it.

And while you're trying to get over it, while you won't like this source, take a gander at this:

https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes1.html

Shut up about Obama Carter and Clinton, then.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Lol, tin foil hats for everyone.

As leftists make thought crime laws reality I wonder where all of the bills are in congress to jail flag burners.

If we're talking about thought crimes, let's discuss the crap about the Satanist conspiracy running the media that was going around for the whole of the '80s once Saint Ronnie handed the Republican party over to the religious right.
We could mention how criticism of Dubya was a good way to get blacklisted by the "liberal" media conspiracy for the first eight years of this century as well.

If you'll try and recall, Reagan and W haven't been president in years. Get over it.

And while you're trying to get over it, while you won't like this source, take a gander at this:

https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes1.html

Shut up about Obama Carter and Clinton, then.

Oh, witty retort.

Let me recall who says that a lot and then is butt hurt when it's used against her....trying to remember....trying to remember....maybe you can help me with this one?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Drakvampire

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

Did not Trump desecrate those who fought bravely in the war, all wars. by dodging the draft on 3-4 occasions? Did he not mock an actual war hero named John McCain whilst running for the Republican nomination several times and then tried to defend what he said by mocking him further. And then during the Health Care debacle he openly attacked Senator John McCain further?
72% of Republican's favor that?

67% favor the 1st being applied to them alone and no-one else?

Perhaps you could explain the Right to us?
1. the Establishment.
2. Bannon's vision.
3. Hitler's vision.
4. Trump's vision

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Lol, tin foil hats for everyone.

As leftists make thought crime laws reality I wonder where all of the bills are in congress to jail flag burners.

If we're talking about thought crimes, let's discuss the crap about the Satanist conspiracy running the media that was going around for the whole of the '80s once Saint Ronnie handed the Republican party over to the religious right.
We could mention how criticism of Dubya was a good way to get blacklisted by the "liberal" media conspiracy for the first eight years of this century as well.

If you'll try and recall, Reagan and W haven't been president in years. Get over it.

And while you're trying to get over it, while you won't like this source, take a gander at this:

https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes1.html

Shut up about Obama Carter and Clinton, then.

Oh, witty retort.

Let me recall who says that a lot and then is butt hurt when it's used against her....trying to remember....trying to remember....maybe you can help me with this one?

You're so smart.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

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Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Ya, checked your source. No access to the poll or poll data and it appears you've edited some of what your source says.

Tin foil hat time once again.

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Seems it's now the new American fascism is in its second trimester...soon (give it maybe 10-20 years) we will see it even more in the street where policies begin to change lives even more.

Republicans aren't so supportive of the BoR when it suits them and much more so than society as a whole.

.....Many conservatives admit to favoring policies that would proscribe the rights of Muslims, journalists, and those who "disrespect" the United States.

.....72 percent of Republicans would support making it illegal for an American to burn or desecrate the flag. A little more than half of Republicans would punish the desecrators by stripping them of their U.S. citizenship, something Donald Trump suggested (to great and deserved indignation) a few weeks after he won the election last November.

....."people should be allowed to express unpopular opinions in public, even those that are deeply offensive to other people," compared to less than five in 10 Democrats. Nonetheless, 36 percent of Republicans would support prohibiting offensive public statements aimed at the police, and the same number would ban such comments aimed at the military. By comparison, just 24 percent would outlaw offensive speech aimed at gays, lesbians, and transgender people.

.....Despite constant declamations from the right on the importance of religious freedom, 67 percent of Republicans favor a law to "prohibit face coverings in public spaces." Nearly half would ban the construction of mosques in their community. That is much higher than among all Americans (28 percent) and among Democrats only (14 percent).

.....It's also directly contrary to constitutional protections agaainst laws that discriminate against certain faith groups.

.....colleges should handle students who disrupt invited speakers in the manner of last week's rightly maligned protest at the College of William and Mary, 65 percent of poll respondents thought that hecklers should be disciplined in some way. But about one-third (32 percent) of GOPers thought schools should actually have the police arrest disorderly students. Among all participants in the survey, that number was closer to one-fifth (19 percent).

.....50 percent of Republicans say the press in America has too much freedom to do what it wants. Just 31 percent of all respondents felt the same way. Republicans also appear to be following the president's lead on a related question: By 63–35 percent, they say journalists are "an enemy of the American people." Among everyone who took the survey, those numbers were flipped.

(The Left: Two in three (66%) believe offensive speech constitutes an act of violence, and the same number feel that college administrators "have an obligation to protect students from speech and ideas that could create a difficult learning environment." These answers represent a frightening departure on the American left from a longstanding consensus reflected in the famous aphorism that you need not agree with what somebody says in order to support her right to say it.)

However, the right:

Yet the departures on the right may be even more noteworthy, particularly given how much pleasure conservatives (the right) take in decrying the behavior of their political adversaries. In fact, 72 percent of Republicans in the poll said that colleges and universities are not doing enough "to teach young Americans about the value of free speech," and 90 percent think political correctness is "a big problem this country has."

But it's hard (for the right) to claim a position of moral authority on the First Amendment when, at the same time, [they] approve of government force to punish those who speak, dress, protest, or worship in a manner you don't like.

A brief methodological aside: The Cato study I'm dissecting here was conducted in partnership with YouGov, a highly respected British web-based polling firm.

HERE

As we all know or should know, this is your right today and has been developing since Reagan.

Ya, checked your source. No access to the poll or poll data and it appears you've edited some of what your source says.

Tin foil hat time once again.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Not to mention this from Politico
Trump calls for jailing, revoking citizenship of flag-burners
Laws prohibiting the burning or desecration of the American flag have been struck down by the Supreme Court.
By LOUIS NELSON 11/29/2016 07:42 AM EST Updated 11/29/2016 03:38 PM EST
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Burning an American flag should be a crime, President-elect Donald Trump wrote Tuesday morning on Twitter, perhaps punishable by a forfeiture of U.S. citizenship or a year in jail.

“Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag - if they do, there must be consequences - perhaps loss of citizenship or year in jail!” Trump wrote in a post to his social media account.


Laws prohibiting the burning or desecration of the flag have been struck down by the Supreme Court, most recently in 1990, because they were found to have violated the First Amendment of the Constitution, which protects freedom of speech. A 1958 Supreme Court decision rejected the practice of stripping U.S. citizenship as a form of criminal punishment, on the grounds that it violates Eighth Amendment protections against "cruel and unusual punishment."

In a 5-4 decision in 1989, the Supreme Court upheld the right of protesters to burn the flag, with the late Justice Antonin Scalia siding with the protesters. He later said he based his ruling on a “textual” reading of the Constitution.

“If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag,” Scalia said in 2015 in Philadelphia. “But I am not king.”

A 2005 bill that would have reinstituted a ban on flag burning was co-sponsored by Hillary Clinton, then a senator from New York. That legislation was unsuccessful.

A constitutional amendment that would allow the government to ban flag desecration has been proposed multiple times but has never passed. It was last voted down in 2006 in the Senate, where current Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and former Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee, then a Republican, were among three GOP lawmakers to vote against it. Then-Sen. Clinton also voted against it.

McConnell disagreed sharply with Trump's tweet when asked about it during a press availability on Tuesday.

"The Supreme Court has held that that activity is a protected First Amendment right, a form of unpleasant speech, and in this country we have a long tradition of respecting unpleasant speech. I happen to support the Supreme Court's decision on that matter," McConnell said.

Some protesters upset with Trump's Election Day victory have set fire to American flags at demonstrations throughout the country. At Hampshire College, a small school in western Massachusetts, administrators removed the American flag from campus after protesters there burned one, according to WWLP-TV. That decision prompted a protest of more than 1,000 people, many of them veterans, upset with the school's decision.

Jason Miller, Trump's senior communications adviser, struggled to defend the president-elect's post in an interview on CNN's "New Day" just minutes after the tweet appeared online. He refused to concede that flag burning is constitutionally protected speech, insisting that it should be illegal even as he tried in vain to pivot to the announcement of Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) as Trump's pick to be secretary of health and human services.

"Chris, flag burning is completely ridiculous. And I think you know that and I think the vast majority of Americans would agree," Miller told CNN anchor Chris Cuomo.

"But legal," Cuomo interjected.

"But Chris, it's completely ridiculous. And I don't think there's a big universe of people out there who support flag burning. It's terrible and it’s despicable," Miller replied.

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Trump’s early backers seize power in Congress
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The two continued in circles for several more rounds of back-and-forth as Cuomo tried to pin down Trump’s spokesman on the issue of flag-burning before Miller finally succeeded in turning the interview to Price’s selection, telling his interviewer that “flag burning should be illegal. End of story. Let’s get in and talk about how we’re going to repeal and replace Obamacare and these fantastic picks that the president-elect announced this morning.”

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) readily acknowledged during an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that flag burning is constitutionally protected free speech, telling panelist Willie Geist that “we’ll protect our First Amendment” even though he does not agree with the practice.

Rep. Sean Duffy (R-Wis.), asked about Trump’s tweet in a separate “New Day” interview, said, “I love my flag, and I love what it stands for, and I hate those who want to go out and burn it.” Still, Duffy added: “The court is probably right that we want to protect those people who want to protest and their right to actually demonstrate with disgracing our flag even though so many of us who love our country and love our flag object to it.”

Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), a libertarian-leaning member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, also took issue with Trump’s flag-desecration stance, writing on his own Twitter account that “Nobody should burn the American flag, but our Constitution secures our right to do so. No president is allowed to burn the First Amendment.”

Trump received a modicum of support from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the Armed Services Committee chairman with whom he clashed throughout his presidential run. As he made his way through a Capitol Hill office building, McCain told CNN that “I do not approve of burning the flag. I think there should be some punishment, but right now, the Supreme Court decision is that people are free to express themselves that way.”

McCain declined to offer any further comment on Trump’s social media post, telling a CNN reporter that the president-elect’s bombast is a distraction from the work he faces on Capitol Hill.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/trump-flag-burning-231920

PS the flag is a distraction.