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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 9:54:04 AM   
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So if someone wants to act like a fool or an asshole, I insist on their right to act like a fool or an asshole but I also insist on my right to call them a fool or an asshole if I feel like it even if they say they don't want to be called a fool or an asshole.

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Does that mean we won't hear any more screeching or whining from the trumptooners in here if el presidente gets called a pedophile or a sex pest, then?


1. Are you calling me a trumptooner?
2. Do you really think I speak for anyone other than myself?



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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 9:57:08 AM   
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So if someone wants to act like a fool or an asshole, I insist on their right to act like a fool or an asshole but I also insist on my right to call them a fool or an asshole if I feel like it even if they say they don't want to be called a fool or an asshole.

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Does that mean we won't hear any more screeching or whining from the trumptooners in here if el presidente gets called a pedophile or a sex pest, then?


1. Are you calling me a trumptooner?
2. Do you really think I speak for anyone other than myself?



No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:06:37 AM   
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No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican democratic nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.


Fixed it for ya.


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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:18:44 AM   
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No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican democratic nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.


Fixed it for ya.


That's more a blindness to nuance than a fix: the twat got the republican nomination. Clinton, on the other hand, is merely a waste of space.


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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:24:14 AM   
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No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican democratic nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.

Fixed it for ya.

That's more a blindness to nuance than a fix: the twat got the republican nomination. Clinton, on the other hand, is merely a waste of space.


Nah. I still think the twat got the democratic nomination. I'd even go one further and say both are wastes of space. But, that's just being petty.


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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:27:26 AM   
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This conspiracy theory emerged near the end of the 2016 United States presidential election cycle. On October 30, 2016, a reputed white supremacist Twitter account claimed the New York City Police Department, which was searching emails found on Anthony Weiner's laptop as part of an investigation into his sexting scandals, had discovered the existence of a pedophilia ring linked to members of the Democratic Party.[8][3] Internet users reading John Podesta's emails released by Wikileaks in early November 2016 speculated that some words in Podesta's emails were code words for pedophilia and human trafficking.[2][9] The theory also proposed that the ring was a meeting ground for satanic ritual abuse.[10]

The theory was then posted on the message board Godlike Productions. The following day, the story was repeated on YourNewsWire citing a 4chan post from earlier that year.[8] Adl-Tabatabai's story was then spread by and elaborated on by other fake news websites, including SubjectPolitics, which falsely claimed the New York Police Department had raided Hillary Clinton's property.[8] The website Conservative Daily Post ran a headline falsely stating that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had confirmed that story.[11]

Spread on social media (common theme that)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory

Anyway it’s not like Trump would parade some of Randy Bill’s alleged victims out in a news conference. Or parade a raft of other women to state that he, Trump, is an utter gentleman and has the utmost respect for women. Or that the Russians, or was it wikibedleak, would release some emails 30 minutes after his pussy grabbing tape made national headlines. Or that trump would go on national tele the next day, after his sons meeting (with the Russians) about the “Russian Orphans” to boast he had the real dirt on Hilary.

Forgot about that too I suppose.

i cannot help but wonder how many sins they will forgive him for, or simply forget about, or pretend they never happened..as they chanted lock her up.

If the abomination’s supporters would chant lock her up for that, then Imagine what they would chant for the monsters tip of the orange iceberg that they enabled every step of the way?
1. More of the same we forgive you by pretending none of that happened and blanking it from their zombie like minds and memories.
2. Tyburn Tree.

Personally I was always fascinated at what he could get away with – he has not disappointed. Infact he has even surprised me - shocked is a better word.

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The Fake News Is going all out in order to demean and denigrate! Such hatred!
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The only reason Him and his lies and hatred have not been banned from twitter is a small get out clause called “newsworthy”. I wonder what the “fucking morons” opinion is on MSNBC from the last 1-2 days




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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:27:32 AM   
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No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican democratic nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.

Fixed it for ya.

That's more a blindness to nuance than a fix: the twat got the republican nomination. Clinton, on the other hand, is merely a waste of space.


Nah. I still think the twat got the democratic nomination. I'd even go one further and say both are wastes of space. But, that's just being petty.


Hang on, you're claiming not to be a trumptooner while insisting that Clinton would have been worse than the orange blob of shite currently stinking up your republic's highest office? Even conspiracy boy's dad has given up on that line now, FFS.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:29:39 AM   
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No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican democratic nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.

Fixed it for ya.

That's more a blindness to nuance than a fix: the twat got the republican nomination. Clinton, on the other hand, is merely a waste of space.


Nah. I still think the twat got the democratic nomination. I'd even go one further and say both are wastes of space. But, that's just being petty.


Hang on, you're claiming not to be a trumptooner while insisting that Clinton would have been worse than the orange blob of shite currently stinking up your republic's highest office? Even conspiracy boy's dad has given up on that line now, FFS.

Being anti Clinton does not equal pro Trump, any more than being anti Trump means being pro Clinton.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 10:39:55 AM   
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No, but it'd be nice if you did: the appalling double standard over anybody else talking about el presidente the way the trumptooners talk about Clinton that's been on display in here since the sorry little twat got the republican democratic nomination last year would be hilarious if it wasn't so fucking pathetic.

Fixed it for ya.

That's more a blindness to nuance than a fix: the twat got the republican nomination. Clinton, on the other hand, is merely a waste of space.


Nah. I still think the twat got the democratic nomination. I'd even go one further and say both are wastes of space. But, that's just being petty.


Hang on, you're claiming not to be a trumptooner while insisting that Clinton would have been worse than the orange blob of shite currently stinking up your republic's highest office? Even conspiracy boy's dad has given up on that line now, FFS.

Being anti Clinton does not equal pro Trump, any more than being anti Trump means being pro Clinton.

In real terms they don't (I'm anti both meself, in fact), but there seems to be a sort of general assumption among the trumptooners on here and in the wider media* that anybody who criticises el presidente is doing so because they're a lefty who'd rather see a (right leaning) democrat in power than the curry turd. Hence the (hilarious) dismissal of Jeff Bezos, Gary Johnson, John McCain, etc as lefty democrat Marxists. If the republicans want to insist that everybody who isn't on el presidente's team is a stooge of the other side, they should extend the same courtesy to the other side to exile undesirables to team trump, shouldn't they? If they insist on the democrats having Bezos, then they can have Saunders, right?

*(Fox, Townhall, Breitbart, The Daily Stormer, Schlomo,and Conservapedia)

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 2:46:55 PM   
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Hang on, you're claiming not to be a trumptooner while insisting that Clinton would have been worse than the orange blob of shite currently stinking up your republic's highest office? Even conspiracy boy's dad has given up on that line now, FFS.


I said long before the election that Clinton and Trump were the two worst Presidential candidates I've ever seen offered by the two main parties. Hillary, imo, was worst then Trump.

I voted Johnson. After 2012, I decided that I could no longer vote 'against' someone, but would only vote 'for' the candidate that best represented my beliefs. That wasn't Trump, and most-assuredly wasn't Clinton. If my choices were only Trump or Clinton, and there was no way out of having to vote for one or the other, Trump would have gotten my vote.





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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 5:50:32 PM   
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Who else but RO could turn a simple insistence on politeness and courtesy into a "gubmint" conspiracy?

I don't know about you but "up to a year in county jail and face a $1000 fine" doesn't sound like "simple insistence" to me.
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Why do so many people insist upon their 'right' to gratuitously insult people who are different? Especially when many of these very same people declare that they belong to a religion that posits "love thy neighbour as thyself" as one of its most important religious obligations?
Why, because we live in the US and supposedly have not only the right but the freedom to do pretty much anything we want.

So if someone wants to act like a fool or an asshole, I insist on their right to act like a fool or an asshole but I also insist on my right to call them a fool or an asshole if I feel like it even if they say they don't want to be called a fool or an asshole. I insist because if you diminish even just one person's rights and freedoms you diminish everybody's rights and freedoms even those of the fools and assholes.



That gives no regard for protecting seniors, which is what the law is trying to do, especially in assisted living facilities.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/12/2017 6:29:08 PM   
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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/13/2017 4:43:46 AM   
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Hang on, you're claiming not to be a trumptooner while insisting that Clinton would have been worse than the orange blob of shite currently stinking up your republic's highest office? Even conspiracy boy's dad has given up on that line now, FFS.


I said long before the election that Clinton and Trump were the two worst Presidential candidates I've ever seen offered by the two main parties. Hillary, imo, was worst then Trump.

I voted Johnson. After 2012, I decided that I could no longer vote 'against' someone, but would only vote 'for' the candidate that best represented my beliefs. That wasn't Trump, and most-assuredly wasn't Clinton. If my choices were only Trump or Clinton, and there was no way out of having to vote for one or the other, Trump would have gotten my vote.





At least you're man enough to admit that and own it. One of the other "even the circus peanut would be better than Hilary" sorts has vanished from this forum since el presidente started demonstrating that he probably isn't proving to be a safer pair of hands than Clinton would have been...

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/14/2017 12:58:45 PM   
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Hang on, you're claiming not to be a trumptooner while insisting that Clinton would have been worse than the orange blob of shite currently stinking up your republic's highest office? Even conspiracy boy's dad has given up on that line now, FFS.


I said long before the election that Clinton and Trump were the two worst Presidential candidates I've ever seen offered by the two main parties. Hillary, imo, was worst then Trump.

I voted Johnson. After 2012, I decided that I could no longer vote 'against' someone, but would only vote 'for' the candidate that best represented my beliefs. That wasn't Trump, and most-assuredly wasn't Clinton. If my choices were only Trump or Clinton, and there was no way out of having to vote for one or the other, Trump would have gotten my vote.







which is precisely the problem of treating elections like an NFL playoff game. Everyone who throws their hat in the ring should be on the ballot in the end game and let the chips fall whereever. My guess is done that way bernie would have won.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/14/2017 7:18:10 PM   
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When the hell were pronouns voted on by actual transgenders? Xi? Hir? That seems more like someone that's nonbinary or gender fluid.
Any MtF transgenders I've known have wanted traditionally feminine pronouns (she, her), while FtM have wanted masculine pronouns used (him, his). I understand these, I've known quite a few of both.

I don't understand newer classifications, like nonbinary and gender fluid, as I mentioned earlier. I've had no real experience with anyone that's ever told me that they identified as either.

Yep. This is nothing more than expecting people to refer to others as "he" or "she", not too difficult. Simple courtesy.

I (almost) find this kind of funny.

This might be different than the pronoun gig but I'll put it out there, anyway. I've heard several posters get on their high horse about how they will not condescend themselves to use a person's pronoun of preference, even when they know what that pronoun happens to be. Won't use the person's 'new' name that corresponds to their gender preference, and all of that bunk.

Yet...

These are the same people who, even though they know my first given/Christian name, will be courteous enough to call me Lady Pact, LP. just Pact, or even just 'that gal who writes in purple'. Even *if* they only consider it a nick name, scene name, screen name, or whatever. Yeah, it's not my "real" name, but people call me by my preference, anyway.

Funny, isn't it?



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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/15/2017 12:59:52 AM   
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I (almost) find this kind of funny.

This might be different than the pronoun gig but I'll put it out there, anyway. I've heard several posters get on their high horse about how they will not condescend themselves to use a person's pronoun of preference, even when they know what that pronoun happens to be. Won't use the person's 'new' name that corresponds to their gender preference, and all of that bunk.

Yet...

These are the same people who, even though they know my first given/Christian name, will be courteous enough to call me Lady Pact, LP. just Pact, or even just 'that gal who writes in purple'. Even *if* they only consider it a nick name, scene name, screen name, or whatever. Yeah, it's not my "real" name, but people call me by my preference, anyway.

Funny, isn't it?



Yes. That's the case for you and me. But for transgenders there's a lot more at stake than mere pronouns.

When someone repeatedly and gratuitously refers to a TG by an inappropriate pronoun, they are deliberately negating the TG's identity, they are attacking the very core of a TG's person's identity. For many TGs, obtaining acceptance in their chosen gender is a struggle a long difficult and often very painful struggle. When a person deliberately uses inappropriate pronouns they are telling the TG and the world, that in their view, the TG's identity is invalid and arrogantly imposing another unwanted, often hated identity on the TG.

If someone were to repeatedly and deliberately call a straight man gay, it's easy to imagine the reaction of many of the more belligerently straight gay hating types. The deliberate challenge to their identity would taken as a provocative attack on their very core. Many would resort to violence to restore their 'honour'. The very same dynamic applies to interactions with TGs.

It's difficult to understand why some people are so belligerent about their supposed right to deny, invalidate and attack a complete stranger's identity without resorting to bigotry and hatred as the most likely explanation.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/15/2017 1:48:17 AM   
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I will call any person by any name they like (we do it, here, all the time), but to ask me to indulge in someone's fantasy about what gender they are?

That's like me saying that from now on, you people are to treat me as the "Master Of the Universe" and obey my every command. Why? Because that's how I feel, inside.

I'll let y'all in on a little secret: Facts don't give a fat rat's ass about your feelings.

Do you know what they call people who believe they're something they're not? Delusional.

Gender is not fluid. There are two. Is it possible for someone with man bits to behave in a "feminine manner"? Of course, but that person is still one of two genders: "male".

What ever happened to the left's love of science?



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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/15/2017 2:47:15 AM   
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I will call any person by any name they like (we do it, here, all the time), but to ask me to indulge in someone's fantasy about what gender they are?


The 'fantasy' here is all yours. For TGs their lived gender is their reality. Your refusal to accept the validity of TG is delusional. Unless you want to claim that you have the ability and the right to determine others' realities you might want to consider leaving it up to others to determine how they live.


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Gender is not fluid. There are two. Is it possible for someone with man bits to behave in a "feminine manner"? Of course, but that person is still one of two genders: "male".

Clearly you believe in the fallacy that gender is determined by genitalia or some form of biological inheritance. It isn't. There is no biological standard which will predict or determine gender as masculine or feminine in all cases. Not genes, not chromosome, not genitalia, or any of the other biological markers commonly (but falsely) believed to determine gender. Nor can there be. Ever. Gender is a social phenomenon not a biological one. Gender is a different phenomenon to sex.

It's interesting that you claim that 'science' supports the collection of common but utterly false cultural assumptions/fallacies in your post. I am unaware of any science that proves your claims but am aware of plenty of science that contradicts it. The actual science is very different to what you imagine it to be. Professor of Biology Anne Fausto-Sterling's book: 'Myths of gender: biological theories about women and men' is one place where you will find the actual science on this question.

I suggest you acquaint yourself with the scientific data before you claim scientific justification for the collection of delusions and myths that permeate your post. Then, and only then, you might be in the happy position of actually knowing what you are talking about.


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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/15/2017 9:06:24 AM   
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I will call any person by any name they like (we do it, here, all the time), but to ask me to indulge in someone's fantasy about what gender they are?

Why not, we indulge your fantasy that you are a man.

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RE: NYC to Fine Businesses That Don’t Use Correct Gen... - 10/15/2017 9:34:50 AM   
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