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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

President Donald Trump linked a 13% increase in crime in parts of the United Kingdom last year to "radical Islamic terror" on Friday morning, but the full picture is considerably more nuanced.
The report, published by the government's Office for National Statistics (ONS) on Oct. 19, shows that police recorded 5.2 million offences in England and Wales in the year to June 2017, up from 4.6 million the previous year, with violent offenses experiencing a 19% rise.
One day after the report was published, the President tweeted: "Just out report: 'United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror.' Not good, we must keep America safe!", a tweet that at the time of writing had already received thousands of retweets and tens of thousands of likes.

However, Trump's tweet presents an incomplete and somewhat distorted picture (and the numbers in fact cover only England and Wales, as opposed to the entire U.K). While the data does show a 13% increase in police recorded crime from the previous year, the report is clear to state that the rise "reflects a range of factors including continuing improvements to crime recording." Knife crime and sexual assault offenses increased sharply, the report notes.

The only area of the report that specifically mentions terrorist attacks is on homicide rates. And although the number of attempted murder offenses substantially increased, largely due to the terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists in London and Manchester in 2017, the report is clear to state that the total number of homicides recorded in the year to June 2017 actually fell by 2% compared with the previous year.

By way of comparison, while the current homicide rate in England and Wales is 11 homicides per one million of the population, the U.S. has an intentional homicide rate of five homicides per 100,000 people, according to the World Bank. Of the 664 recorded homicides in England and Wales, 35 related to the aforementioned terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists.

According to the ONS report, offences involving knives or sharp instruments increased by 26% compared with the previous year and sexual assault increased by 38%. Fraud offenses recorded by police in England and Wales also increased by 4%, although the report stated the rise was largely owing to greater reporting of such crimes.The report was released two days after the government published statistics on hate crimes and racist incidents recorded by the police, which showed a 29% spike in recorded hate crimes (including any crime motivated by religion, race, sexuality, disability or transgender identity) in the 12 months before March 2017 compared to the same period between 2015-16. This period did not include the terrorist attacks in Manchester, or at London Bridge.

http://time.com/4990815/trump-crime-uk-radical-islamic-terror/

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Especially when he already knows what he utters on Twitter is scrutinized as it is.

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ORIGINAL: LTE

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

President Donald Trump linked a 13% increase in crime in parts of the United Kingdom last year to "radical Islamic terror" on Friday morning, but the full picture is considerably more nuanced.
The report, published by the government's Office for National Statistics (ONS) on Oct. 19, shows that police recorded 5.2 million offences in England and Wales in the year to June 2017, up from 4.6 million the previous year, with violent offenses experiencing a 19% rise.
One day after the report was published, the President tweeted: "Just out report: 'United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror.' Not good, we must keep America safe!", a tweet that at the time of writing had already received thousands of retweets and tens of thousands of likes.

However, Trump's tweet presents an incomplete and somewhat distorted picture (and the numbers in fact cover only England and Wales, as opposed to the entire U.K). While the data does show a 13% increase in police recorded crime from the previous year, the report is clear to state that the rise "reflects a range of factors including continuing improvements to crime recording." Knife crime and sexual assault offenses increased sharply, the report notes.

The only area of the report that specifically mentions terrorist attacks is on homicide rates. And although the number of attempted murder offenses substantially increased, largely due to the terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists in London and Manchester in 2017, the report is clear to state that the total number of homicides recorded in the year to June 2017 actually fell by 2% compared with the previous year.

By way of comparison, while the current homicide rate in England and Wales is 11 homicides per one million of the population, the U.S. has an intentional homicide rate of five homicides per 100,000 people, according to the World Bank. Of the 664 recorded homicides in England and Wales, 35 related to the aforementioned terrorist attacks by Islamic extremists.

According to the ONS report, offences involving knives or sharp instruments increased by 26% compared with the previous year and sexual assault increased by 38%. Fraud offenses recorded by police in England and Wales also increased by 4%, although the report stated the rise was largely owing to greater reporting of such crimes.The report was released two days after the government published statistics on hate crimes and racist incidents recorded by the police, which showed a 29% spike in recorded hate crimes (including any crime motivated by religion, race, sexuality, disability or transgender identity) in the 12 months before March 2017 compared to the same period between 2015-16. This period did not include the terrorist attacks in Manchester, or at London Bridge.

http://time.com/4990815/trump-crime-uk-radical-islamic-terror/

It's good that the Islamic population is responsible only for an increase in attempted murders rather than actual murders. Thanks for clearing this up.
Trump won.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

Yep, a tweet that is factual but incomplete due to bevity, not nuanced at all, is lambasted for being incomplete on TWITTER!!!

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Personally, I've considered Twitter to be a worthless platform for doing anything more that screaming "Mommy, Look at MEEEEEE!" to a plethora of followers from the very beginnings. (That was the 90s for me when I had the misfortune to be talked into beta testing the original Twitter desktop application.)

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Especially when he already knows what he utters on Twitter is scrutinized as it is.

He also won when he was not supposed to. There's a pattern here.

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

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Especially when he already knows what he utters on Twitter is scrutinized as it is.

He also won when he was not supposed to. There's a pattern here.

Bitch, please. A corpse rotting in the sun could have won over HRC. This wasnt sone huge victory. It was merely a "choice" between the lesser of two evils. Which isnt choice...and it sure as shit wasnt the will of all of America.

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He also won when he was not supposed to. There's a pattern here.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

The fuckwit is at it again, this time linking Islam to crime with another disingenuous and scaremongering claim.

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
3:31 am - 20 Oct 2017

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Bitch, please! A corpse rotting in the sun could have won over HRC. Hell, Artie...even you could have won over her. Which isnt saying much, love. Just keeping it real.

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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We won the Supreme Court.

Tell us just what you won with that, and what you propose to do with it.

You and your ilk have been shitting your pants forever, and now you are glad that, at last, Trump emptied your collective britches and flushed the whole mess on society. Congrats.

Aside from that (and I'm sure it was a great relief) . . .

What are you going to actually DO with it- you yourself, the "we" you speak of?

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ORIGINAL: LTE
Win.

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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He also won when he was not supposed to. There's a pattern here.

Hitler's highest vote total was ~ 30-33%.

Trump's total was, more accurately, 26%.

So, tell us more about this 'pattern' you are seeing, here.

You started, so you first.

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: LTE
We won the Supreme Court.

Tell us just what you won with that, and what you propose to do with it.

You and your ilk have been shitting your pants forever, and now you are glad that, at last, Trump emptied your collective britches and flushed the whole mess on society. Congrats.

Aside from that (and I'm sure it was a great relief) . . .

What are you going to actually DO with it- you yourself, the "we" you speak of?

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ORIGINAL: LTE
Win.

Win what, exactly?

This is why losers are losers, because they can't even explain what somebody else won for them.

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FR.

There is something very interesting as far as another pattern freshly emerged from this thread. I call it (on the fly) dynamic or on-demand redefinition. In one instance, the Dems did not like how Obama was looking since he was deporting less illegal immigrants than any other contemporary president and so they just redefined what deportation was and also some in this form have redefined "murder" to exclude attempted murders, that is, exclude crimes in which the Islamic terrorist failed to kill their target and the victim survived, and if you do so then Trump's tweet was indeed wrong.Yeah. Well, fuck that shit.

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Bitch, please! A corpse rotting in the sun could have won over HRC. Hell, Artie...even you could have won over her. Which isnt saying much, love. Just keeping it real.

There's a couple of things wrong with this point of view.

1) The Dems lost the Presidency even though she beat Bernie and he is not even dead.

2) The Dems lost the Congress even though she had nothing to do with that.

So, basically the Dems lost.

Like you just now.

P.S. You should blame the Russians if it makes you feel better.

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

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ORIGINAL: LTE

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Bitch, please! A corpse rotting in the sun could have won over HRC. Hell, Artie...even you could have won over her. Which isnt saying much, love. Just keeping it real.

There's a couple of things wrong with this point of view.

1) The Dems lost the Presidency even though she beat Bernie and he is not even dead.

2) The Dems lost the Congress even though she had nothing to do with that.

So, basically the Dems lost.

Like you just now.

P.S. You should blame the Russians if it makes you feel better.

Only thing wrong is deep down in the place you dont like to talk about, you know its true. This was no major victory. It was just America trying to decide between being fucked up thd tailpipe by a barbed wire wrapped cock versus one made of...well...you. Either way, no one leaves happy or even remotely satisfied. Trump "winning" wasnt a "win" since it wasnt really a choice.