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ORIGINAL: Danemora

I agree with you as well on this. I voted for my cat as a write-in since my actual vote didnt mean anything anyway. My state's electoral votes went to HRC and Id have rather stabbed myself in the eye with my pen than blacken in the Chump bubble

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ORIGINAL: LTE

1) The Dems lost the Presidency even though she beat Bernie and he is not even dead.

2) The Dems lost the Congress even though she had nothing to do with that.

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: LTE

He also won when he was not supposed to. There's a pattern here.

Hitler's highest vote total was ~ 30-33%.

Trump's total was, more accurately, 26%.

So, tell us more about this 'pattern' you are seeing, here.

You started, so you first.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

and danemora, you keep sounding all gloom and doom concerning trump---what has he done that has actually affected YOUR life in a harmful way?

additionally, what has he done to ACTUALLY harm the country? by that I mean, don't quote a nebulous "he abolished some regulation" but rather, "he did X, and Y occurred as a direct result of it" and not only that, but also that "X and Y" cannot be interpreted as acceptable given some other set of values or premises.

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

and danemora, you keep sounding all gloom and doom concerning trump---what has he done that has actually affected YOUR life in a harmful way?

additionally, what has he done to ACTUALLY harm the country? by that I mean, don't quote a nebulous "he abolished some regulation" but rather, "he did X, and Y occurred as a direct result of it" and not only that, but also that "X and Y" cannot be interpreted as acceptable given some other set of values or premises.

Im one of the folks who face losing ACA insurance due to Trump's changes. If that wont affect my life in a harmful way...Im not sure what would qualify

Next...Im not one of the upper 1%, so those big tax cuts at the top are going to come at my expense since Im further down the socioeconomic ladder.

Lastly, I just think Trump is an embarrassing, highly unstable, unmitigated asshole.

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Hush, Bosco. Grown folks are talking. If we need the "howler" town crier, I'll call on you. Until then, your lips are so far up Trump's ass that I cant tell where his ass ends and your face begins, love. No one expects you to look at the situation from another's perspective...unless that perspective tows the party line.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

the sort of binary you and marini are engaging in is just plain false.

there are indeed a lot of people who see elections as the choice between the lesser of two evils and for sure there were plenty of people in the "anyone but Hillary" camp but at the same time, each candidate did, and still does, have ardent followers who preferred them from the very beginning.

There have ALWAYS been people that support any candidate that runs.
People supported Hitler, and I could list 30 other horrific leaders, that "people" supported.
The point is, many people did not like HRC and did not Trump, that has not changed.
Those of us, that DISLIKED BOTH candidates in the last Presidential election, have a right to speak our opinions, like everyone else.

You offer up 2 people who many find UNSATISFACTORY, and ask/us to choose, and what do you get?

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Hush, Bosco. Grown folks are talking. If we need the "howler" town crier, I'll call on you. Until then, your lips are so far up Trump's ass that I cant tell where his ass ends and your face begins, love. No one expects you to look at the situation from another's perspective...unless that perspective tows the party line.

How to spot leftist trash... They rarely argue against the substance of the post. Due to mental deficiencies they are forced to rely almost exclusively on cartoonish memes that reflect the cartoonish alternate reality they exist in, or childish insults that are totally lacking in real substance

Debate fallacies etc, with very rare exceptions

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ORIGINAL: LTE

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

The fuckwit is at it again, this time linking Islam to crime with another disingenuous and scaremongering claim.

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Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Just out report: "United Kingdom crime rises 13% annually amid spread of Radical Islamic terror." Not good, we must keep America safe!
3:31 am - 20 Oct 2017

There's no point in being charitable any more, is there? He's a cretin, or he knows his supporters are cretins and won't know any better ... or maybe a combination. Whatever. This is just brainless bollocks.

We won.

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How to spot leftist trash... They rarely argue against the substance of the post. Due to mental deficiencies they are forced to rely almost exclusively on cartoonish memes that reflect the cartoonish alternate reality they exist in, or childish insults that are totally lacking in real substance

Debate fallacies etc, with very rare exceptions

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

no, its not merely "my opinion." i gave you logical evidence for the reasoning. what you said may be true for you and marini, its not true for many millions of others.

and no, im not a trump supporter. he was last on my list in the republican primary, i didn't vote for him and i don't think ive ever said anything here that can be legitimately construed as me being a "trump supporter."
what i am is a supporter of making sound arguments no matter who is being talked about.

your "brass tacks" ultimately don't deliver danemora. both things you said are nebulous in general and in how they will affect you personally, and in actuality, have to do with congress, not trump.