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Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military widow - 10/23/2017 5:42:50 PM   
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Why can't they just step back, take a deep breath, and show the nation a moment of grace?

Johnson’s death has been front and center in a controversy Trump himself created when he drew attention to the fact that he hadn’t phoned the immediate families of all service members who had been killed during his presidency and made the erroneous claim that his predecessors didn’t make such calls.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 5:49:00 PM   
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Why can't they just step back, take a deep breath, and show the nation a moment of grace?

Johnson’s death has been front and center in a controversy Trump himself created when he drew attention to the fact that he hadn’t phoned the immediate families of all service members who had been killed during his presidency and made the erroneous claim that his predecessors didn’t make such calls.

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This is a national disgrace.
I said months ago, Trump should have advisors around him monitoring/and advising him what to say, tweet, etc.
I often wonder if Trump has something like very high functioning Asperger's syndrome or some other mental illness.

Something is terribly "off" with him, and he just keeps doing/and saying these things.
Why isn't someone around him intervening?
I am serious about him needing someone/or a team of people advising him/filtering his responses.
Again, just a disgrace.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 5:52:06 PM   
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Now Vince... you know she is lying... I mean she is black and can't understand white mans language.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 6:05:20 PM   
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Now Vince... you know she is lying... I mean she is black and can't understand white mans language.

Butch


What is wrong with you Butch, have you gone off the deep end, also?

racist jokes now?

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 6:24:36 PM   
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Now Vince... you know she is lying... I mean she is black and can't understand white mans language.

Butch


What is wrong with you Butch, have you gone off the deep end, also?

racist jokes now?


What is wrong with YOU, dear lady?

Can you not understand or con to blatant and overt sarcasm when presented?

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 6:42:27 PM   
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Now Vince... you know she is lying... I mean she is black and can't understand white mans language.

Butch


What is wrong with you Butch, have you gone off the deep end, also?

racist jokes now?


Sorry Marini... it is not a joke... it was an attempt at satire... This whole episode is so outlandish it is beyond normal discourse. What other possible reason... other than out and out racism could there be for Trump's actions? Any decent man would have immediately called this grieving mother back and apologized. It is possible that Trump meant well and is just not good with empathy but if he was misunderstood he should have asked for forgiveness not call her a liar... I cannot believe the man is just insensitive ... I truly believe in his heart he thinks exactly what I printed as satire.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:02:43 PM   
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Oh for fuck's sake, grow up, the whole lot of you!

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:07:32 PM   
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Diz, they are US brand liberals.

T^T

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:08:34 PM   
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Don't all of you howl at once now



Quite a coincidence, that a cowboy-hat-wearing "rock star" Democrat congressman just happened to be riding around with the widow after she was told that the president would be calling




It's a typical setup right out of the Democrat playbook

Use the president's calling a deceased soldier's widow for a political stunt.

And you fools suck it right up

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:14:07 PM   
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Now Vince... you know she is lying... I mean she is black and can't understand white mans language.

Butch


What is wrong with you Butch, have you gone off the deep end, also?

racist jokes now?


Sorry Marini... it is not a joke... it was an attempt at satire... This whole episode is so outlandish it is beyond normal discourse. What other possible reason... other than out and out racism could there be for Trump's actions? Any decent man would have immediately called this grieving mother back and apologized. It is possible that Trump meant well and is just not good with empathy but if he was misunderstood he should have asked for forgiveness not call her a liar... I cannot believe the man is just insensitive ... I truly believe in his heart he thinks exactly what I printed as satire.

Butch


hummm okay Butch
I don't think that Trump thought she was Black and could not understand the "White mans language. "
Many White people don't understand the White man's language.

I think he has no filter, has some mental deficiencies and is also rude and thoughtless.

We all have our opinions, and even most of his supporters can't feel that his actions in this matter, were okay.
Anyway I am done here, I try to avoid the commenting on the endless Trump faux pas, I could not resist this one.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:19:04 PM   
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Bosco, those monkeys are so cute.

I have never seen howling monkeys, thanks for sharing.


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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:23:55 PM   
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Don't all of you howl at once now
You mean how you have been silent on trumps BS impotence in the Niger deaths AND towards Wilson, AND the tragedy he is putting families through with his lack of stones????? Because Trump is being a dick

Quite a coincidence, that a cowboy-hat-wearing "rock star" Democrat congressman just happened to be riding around with the widow after she was told that the president would be calling.
Please source your claims/evidence/proof/.



It's a typical setup right out of the Democrat playbook

Use the president's calling a deceased soldier's widow for a political stunt.

And you fools suck it right up

Please source your claims, and or evidence?






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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/23/2017 7:27:31 PM   
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Oh for fuck's sake, grow up, the whole lot of you!


We will "grow up" after you grow up.
This is a message board, we have a right to comment.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:08:54 AM   
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I think its unfortunate that trump commented on how former presidents handled similar situations, seemingly trying to make himself look good or better by comparison. I also think its unfortunate there seems to be a "he said, she said" thing going on in public. however, the only "national disgrace" I see, or at least predominantly see, is from the left trying to make hay out of it in general, and this woman in particular.

"All Hat, No Decency"

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Texans have a saying for people who talk big but act small: All hat, no cattle. It’s hard to think of someone better fitting that description than Rep. Frederica Wilson, the Florida Democrat with a multitude of colorful hats but no decency.

Sgt. La David T. Johnson died fighting for his country and our freedoms. Sadly, there is nothing anyone can say to his widow, Myeshia Johnson, to take away her pain. Even a president who could movingly express the American people’s sense of loss—think President Ronald Reagan’s speech after the Challenger space shuttle disaster—couldn’t restore family members’ personal loss.

President Donald Trump tried and didn’t succeed with Ms. Johnson. Neither is to blame. She had just received the worst news imaginable. He wasn’t trained for such a difficult task.

But why is Big Hat Wilson involved? She said she was “horrified” by what the president said. Of course, she’s a liberal activist. Anything he said would have horrified her. It’s hardly news when she trashes the president.

In fact, she is an experienced practitioner in the politics of demagoguery. The Rhinestone Cowgirl took advantage of an earlier tragedy—the shooting of Trayvon Martin—to score political points. No one benefited from her attempt to exploit his unfortunate death.

Now, she’s using the same tactic again, only this time taking advantage of the death of American soldiers confronting terrorists in the nation of Niger.

They were there on the sort of mission that has become increasingly common under Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump. No one likes putting U.S. military personnel in harm’s way. For a president, there is no tougher decision. And if anything goes wrong, the president is going to be blamed.

But we all know the world is a dangerous place. Better to stop terrorists early than allow them to destroy foreign societies—before moving on to strike America.

Even if the Rhinestone Cowgirl could not avoid hearing the call, it’s outrageous that she make political hay out of it.. She should know better. White House Chief of Staff John Kelly said he was stunned: “I thought that at least that was sacred.”

Like most Americans, he remembers, he said, as “a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country.” Women, life, religion, as well as Gold Star families. “I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred,” Kelly added.

He knows of what he speaks, having lost a son in Afghanistan.

Kelly first recommended that the president not make those calls, because nothing is more emotionally difficult. But when the president insisted, Kelly suggested that President Trump point out that Sgt. Johnson understood the choice he was making and died doing what he believed in. The president tried to express the message that the sergeant “is a brave man, a fallen hero, who knew what he was getting into because he enlisted, and he was exactly where he wanted to be,” Kelly said. Those sentiments had comforted him in his own time of extreme grief.

But the showboat congresswoman went on the attack against Kelly as well as the president. She made a predictable charge of racism after Gen. Kelly said she was like “empty barrels making the most noise.” Really?

Maybe that tactic works in her Miami district. But it shouldn’t be treated seriously anywhere else. The phrase probably goes back to the Greeks, who talked about “empty vessels.” That sounds a lot like all hat, no cattle to me.

It’s about bad people, not race.

But No Decency Wilson didn’t stop there. She told the ever-gullible New York Times: “The White House itself is full of white supremacists.” Where are they, one wonders? In the closets and under the beds?

The Rhinestone Cowgirl just smeared hundreds of conservative officials, highlighting the bankruptcy of the Left and bias of the media. It’s a cheap cop-out to blame race for every failure, real or perceived. And it makes white people the only vulnerable group.

But we’ve come to expect that from the political Left. It’s what they do.

President Trump maintains troops in Niger, and many other nations, to protect all of us. They do their job admirably, but, as we have seen, at great risk to themselves. To the president’s credit, when tragedy strikes, he seeks to console their families.

Then politicians like All Hat Wilson carp and complain.

Anyone is free to criticize the president. But most of us recognize that some things are sacred. That there are appropriate times and places for political discourse. Why can’t liberals like the Rhinestone Cowgirl do the same?


https://townhall.com/columnists/kenblackwell/2017/10/24/all-hat-no-decency-n2399319


yeah comrades, townhall.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:18:15 AM   
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Tell me bounty,
Why did kelly lie about wilson?
Why didnt trump come out before to mention the niger soldiers?
Why is he scurrying to get letters out to troops he forgot to call or mail, why has he NOT still spoken regarding Niger deaths. He made up a lie about obama and other presidents, he ignored the question on Niger to lie, he has hit out with even more lies, but you wanna make it about wilson, without acknowledging that Wilson was a family friend of the Johnson family??
Why is that?


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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:24:07 AM   
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I want to know what is ISIS doing in Nigeria that US has 1000 soldiers there chasing ISIS down!

Those 4 guys in Niger were killed by ISIS.

Why is it hush hush? Trump has said he will not be like other Presidents announcing specific strategy and give ISIS warning before he does anything.

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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:26:00 AM   
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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:32:18 AM   
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-13809501
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Nigeria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Nigeria
Boko Haram



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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:41:18 AM   
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I often wonder if Trump has something like very high functioning Asperger's syndrome or some other mental illness.

High functioning?
Seriously?


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RE: Two Powerful Men Assail a pregnant young military w... - 10/24/2017 4:46:34 AM   
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It's a typical setup right out of the Democrat playbook

Use the president's calling a deceased soldier's widow for a political stunt.

And you fools suck it right up


Typical? When has it even happened once before? It could only happen with a Bully like Trump in the Oval Office. What an arrogant insensititve clown!

Btw, only deceased soldiers have widows. So, why were they in Niger? Why were they unprotected by air observation? How does this incident square with the 2001 military authorization for Bush to do whatever? Why did Ryan pocket a reexamination of that authorization? When will our young men and women be safe from the "forever war?"

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