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Greta75 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 2:31:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: susie
When did patting a woman's bottom become molest? Seriously how ridiculous.

You can't be serious.

Try coming to my country. EVEN if you are woman patting another's woman's bum. You would be arrested for molestation.

Touching people's bum is absolutely cave man behaviour.

Civilized people shake hands and don't pat bums during greetings. HW Bush refused to shake her hand and chose to pat her bum instead! That's sick!




Greta75 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 2:34:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Greta, George HW Bush wasnt grabbing your ass. So quit acting like he did. And your prejudices against the elderly, infirm, and disabled is still butt ass ugly...no matter how much you try shining up your bullshit


The point here is, it's disgusting women are defending an sexual assault here.
Especially when it's no longer just an allegation but fully admitted and apologized for by the perpetrator.




susie -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 2:45:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/former-maine-state-senate-candidate-accuses-george-hw-bush-of-groping/ar-AAu8RDQ?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp

Up to 4 allegations now-- this one from the pre-wheelchair days.


Disgusting! I knew he was just taking advantage of pretending to be old and senile and in a wheelchair to get away with it!


Seriously? He is pretending to be old. He is pretending to have dementia. He is pretending to be in a wheelchair.

I think I need something of what you are taking




Greta75 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 2:50:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: susie
Seriously? He is pretending to be old. He is pretending to have dementia. He is pretending to be in a wheelchair.

I think I need something of what you are taking

My point is, he is using all those advantages to molest women, women here has proven to me that it's perfectly okay to be molested by 90 yr old senile men on wheelchairs.

You even say it's okay for men to touch you on your bum whenever they want.

So he knows that. Use everything to his full benefit.

Nobody calls him out on it.

Until the "#MeToo" campaign started and women started sharing how they felt sexually assaulted.

BTW, incase you have not been reading the development. Bush Senior already has women coming out saying about him doing this joke thingy and then patting the woman's butt PRIOR to being on a wheelchair.




susie -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 3:00:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

quote:

ORIGINAL: susie
When did patting a woman's bottom become molest? Seriously how ridiculous.

You can't be serious.

Try coming to my country. EVEN if you are woman patting another's woman's bum. You would be arrested for molestation.

Touching people's bum is absolutely cave man behaviour.

Civilized people shake hands and don't pat bums during greetings. HW Bush refused to shake her hand and chose to pat her bum instead! That's sick!


I have a reasonably large chest and I have one male friend who greets me by putting his face between my boobs and shaking his head around. Is he molesting me?
I stood talking to a very famous rock star, he was sat down, and while we were talking he had his hand on my lower hip (butt cheek in your world)

The answer in both cases is no. They were both friendly ways of contact. Of course there are serious cases of women and men being molested but to suggest that patting your "butt" is being molested is the most ridiculous idea.




Danemora -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 5:26:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Greta, George HW Bush wasnt grabbing your ass. So quit acting like he did. And your prejudices against the elderly, infirm, and disabled is still butt ass ugly...no matter how much you try shining up your bullshit


The point here is, it's disgusting women are defending an sexual assault here.
Especially when it's no longer just an allegation but fully admitted and apologized for by the perpetrator.


So just because Im a woman, Im instantly supposed to be offended and outraged? Im not. I tend to save my outrage for things I feel are a big deal...and an old man with dementia patting asses just isnt it. But he's old, he's sick, and he's in a wheelchair...and given your rather disgusting biased views spewed here...I can see why you are rabid about this.




servantforuse -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 5:41:17 AM)

I'm very glad that I don't live in your country.




Greta75 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 7:27:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I'm very glad that I don't live in your country.


And I am glad I live in my country where men cannot legally touch me as they please and get away with it.

Like this asshole from Germany who came here and think he can happily pinched a waitress butt around here.

I am glad he got in trouble and fired from his job for this. He would have at least spent one night in jail, as it's handcuff straight to jail for one night offense.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/researcher-fined-3k-for-squeezing-womans-buttocks

I bet in the US, he could have gone around pinching any waitress butt he pleases, and nothing happens to him if the waitress goes to the police.

I have to say that sometimes the protection of women in the US is almost as bad as Saudi. I see why US needs guns. Women gotta really watch out for sexual molestation since it's mostly legal.




Greta75 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (10/30/2017 7:34:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: susie

I have a reasonably large chest and I have one male friend who greets me by putting his face between my boobs and shaking his head around. Is he molesting me?

YES, absolutely, it is 100% molestation. Unless it's consensual and you consent to him doing so. But if it was done non-consensually, it is molestation. You could get him jailed if you wanted in my country for him doing that to you. Because he has no right to touch your breast without your permission.

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I stood talking to a very famous rock star, he was sat down, and while we were talking he had his hand on my lower hip (butt cheek in your world)

Again! Yes, it's molestation. IF you wanted to report him, he will without a doubt be in trouble if he did that here.

Also, if Trump was the one who sat down next to you, and put his hands on your hips, you would be screaming murder.

So don't tell me you don't mind it. I have met my most favourite singer in the world and he is a US person. Spent a whole night with him in his home platonically, met his parents, and he was completely respectful and did not inappropriately touch me at all. Even when he pick me up at the airport, got into the car, he maintain respectable distance and respected Asian culture of no contact. I know the real good men got good self-control. I guess even the artists I follow, I choose the ones who actually respect women and don't feel they have the right to touch them. I mean we were watching a movie together in his home on the couch together and if he put his hands around me on my butt. I would totally think badly of him and be very disappointed with him. He was a total gentleman and respectful. A gentleman doesn't go around feeling women's butt.

So if some famous singer came and sat beside me and touch my butt when he just met me, I would be like, what a fucking asshole! I'd definitely tell him off. Just like I know you would tell Trump off if he dares touch your hip.

And I have alot of respect for him for not laying any hands on me. It's also how I judge my blind dates. If they touch me on first date. I do not sleep with them, as to me, they are sexual predators and I stay away. It just shows the lack of self-control in public places, so how will he have any self control in private.






bounty44 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 12:59:52 PM)

this contains elements germane to this thread, and another two or three that we've recently been through. this seems as good a place as any to put it.

its long, but worth the read.

"5 Reasons Men Are Reluctant to Get on the Sexual Harassment Bandwagon"

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"I think it's important for victims to come forward. I also think it's important to remember that Duke Lacrosse and UVA happened." -- Matt Walsh

Since the Harvey Weinstein case broke into the news, we’ve been deluged with stories about women who were sexually harassed, raped or molested in Hollywood and elsewhere.

This is not a bad thing. Let me repeat that: this is not a bad thing.

Exposing abuse to sunlight is the best way to stop it. Moreover, if we didn’t have a prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, I’d be okay with rapists being impaled on a sharp stick. Using a position of power to pressure a woman into sex or more creepily, into watching you do vile things to a potted plant is gross and criminal.

That being said, a lot of men are leery of the glut of accusations going on right now. This is something a lot of men think, but don’t want to say because they’re afraid they’ll catch flak over it. However, if you are a man, there are things that catch your attention about this wave of sexual harassment complaints that the opposite gender may not initially think about…

1) We keep defining sexual harassment down: If a boss tells you to sleep with him or alternately to watch him shower (ugh….creepy) to keep a job, we can all agree that’s sexual harassment. The further we get from that kind of standard, the less we’re going to agree. Telling a crude joke, having a swimsuit calendar on the wall or a man putting his hand on your shoulder might legally qualify as environmental sexual harassment, but it’s all bullsh*t. Many women may think they deserve money because of those things, but a lot of men think if they can’t handle that, then they’re too delicate for the work force. We’ve even gotten to the point where a 93 year old man in a wheelchair with Parkinson’s pinching a woman’s butt and telling a dirty joke is considered traumatizing sexual harassment. It’s a joke, but it’s not funny.

2) Sexual harassment is often dependent on the feelings the woman involved has about the man doing it: How can we have a “crime” where the standards vary based on how attracted the “victim” is to the “perpetrator?” Asking a woman out a second time after she turns you down if she likes you? Persistent. If she doesn’t? Creepy harassment. If a woman catches you staring at her and she finds you attractive? He’s into me. Awesome! If she doesn’t like you? Creepy harassment. Telling an edgy joke if she likes you? He’s so funny! If she doesn’t? Creepy harassment. What constitutes sexual harassment can feel like an iffy, ever-changing standard to men.

3) Men have to be the pursuers: This may come as a shock to the unfamiliar-with-human-mating-rituals, sign-a-permission-slip-for-every-step-of-the-make-out-session liberals who control college campuses, but men and women do not fill the same roles.

Women tend to sit back and give ambiguous signals about whether they’re interested or not. Men have to interpret those vague signals, flirt back and decide whether or not to make a move. As they become experienced with women, they get hip to the game, become better at interpreting these signals and get a better idea of when to be subtle and when to be overt. When they are young and inexperienced, it’s not so easy. Keep in mind that we live in a world where more than a few men are so clueless about how to talk to women that they think sending a picture of their crotch to a woman they barely know will somehow lead to sex (PS: Guys, don’t ever, ever do this). How many “sexual harassment” complaints are just inexperienced guys making childish, awkward attempts to get a woman to like him?

4) Many women do lie about rape and sexual harassment: Men understand that women are afraid they won’t be believed if they say they were raped. This is a real problem. Unfortunately, it’s a problem that’s caused by the many women who lie about being raped. There are prominent examples (Tawana Brawley, the Jackie Coakley Rolling Stone case and the Duke Lacrosse case), lots of male students who’ve been punished for rapes that didn’t happen in Title IX kangaroo courts, and damning statistics that in some cases show as many as 40% of rape claims are false.

When people say, “Women don’t lie about rape,” they are very, very wrong and when you realize as a man that you could be the potential target of a lie like that one day, it gives you pause. That same woman who’s laughing along with a joke, happily having sex or flirting shamelessly with you today may be crying her eyes out, claiming to be traumatized and accusing you of doing something very wrong tomorrow in hopes of getting a sexual harassment settlement in court. Keep in mind that as I write this, Scottie Hughes is currently suing Fox and claiming she was “raped” by Charles Payne despite the fact that she admits that they had a two year long affair afterwards. If you are a man, all this makes you a little nervous because there is no foolproof defense other than avoiding women as much as humanly possible.

5) The latest round of complaints about sexual harassment are shot through with man-hating: There are lots of normals who have been sexually harassed and have talked about it lately, most prominently on the #metoo hashtag on twitter. That’s a good thing.

What’s not a good thing is the man-hating that has gone along with it. There are an almost infinite number of examples I could give of it, but the sad comments of neutered, liberal half-men, saying what they think liberal women want to hear on the #HowIWillChange hashtag do the best job explaining what’s wrong with this mentality. The #HowIWillChange hashtag was a response to the #metoo hashtag. The comments were a combination of men “bravely” condemning the sexual assault and rape everyone already opposes, self-hatred and liberal feminist ideology. This is what men are being told they have to embrace to be free of the stigma of sexual harassment and “rape culture.”

Men, #HowIWillChange means acknowledging all men are potential rapists. The ones that aren't have gotten rid of their toxic masculinity.

I'm late to this but #HowIWillChange is by recognising when I'm mansplaining & just listen to women speak uninterrupted.

By calling objects ‘she’ (boats, cars, bikes) men are indirectly objectifying women #HowIWillChange 4/n

Should all men change to create a safe environment for women? We're talking #HowIWillChange on @AJStream in 5 mins

#HowIWillChange When I interview for jobs, I will ask how many women executives are in the company, and what the pay gap is.

#HowIWillChange taking responsibility for and unlearning my OWN toxic masculinity and calling out sexism when I see it.

What men should take from #metoo campaign is not that the women in their life need more protection, but that the men need re-education.

My reaction to this is summed up by this tweet.

So it appears #HowIWillChange is a lot of men basically saying they are responsible for assault even if they don’t assault anyone.

Thanks, but no thanks.


https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2017/11/04/5-reasons-men-are-reluctant-to-get-on-the-sexual-harassment-bandwagon-n2404741




ServiceSubinCali -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 1:05:27 PM)

A good place for you would be beyond the crappers U-bend. None of you have been through this you chose to ignore

I like when he, President draft dodging bone spurs, attacks the bleeders and gold star widows, live on the telly.

And,

Trump says sex harassment claims are fake news, but there are corroborators

“All I can say is it’s totally fake news. It’s just fake. It’s fake. It’s made-up stuff, and it’s disgraceful, what happens, but that happens in the world of politics.”
— President Trump, remarks to reporters, Oct. 16, 2017


Jacqueline Alemany of CBS News: “Obviously, sexual harassment has been in the news. At least 16 women accused the president of sexually harassing them throughout the course of the campaign. Last week, during a news conference in the Rose Garden, the president called these accusations ‘fake news.’ Is the official White House position that all of these women are lying?”

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders: “Yeah, we’ve been clear on that from the beginning, and the president’s spoken on it.”
— exchange on Oct. 27

As Alemany noted, 16 women have accused Trump of sexually harassing them. While the president dismisses this as “fake news,” the problem for the White House is that some of these women have produced witnesses who say they heard about the incident at the time — long before Trump made his political aspirations known.

Such contemporaneous accounts are essential to establishing the credibility of the allegation because they reduce the chances that a person is making up a story for political purposes. In the case of sexual allegations, such accounts can help bolster the credibility of the “she said” side of the equation. Often, a sexual assault will happen behind closed doors. The contemporary corroborators can explain what they heard at the time and whether the story being told now is consistent with how the story was told years earlier. This does not necessarily mean the allegation is true, but it does give journalistic organizations more confidence to report on the allegation.

Below is a summary of the corroborators provided by three of the women who have accusations, drawn from a fact check written during the presidential campaign. That fact check also detailed the witnesses who backed up claims of sexual accusations against former president Bill Clinton — who, like Trump, insisted the women accusing him were not telling the truth.

Readers can judge for themselves.

Kristin Anderson
Her allegation: While at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators:

Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.



Natasha Stoynoff
Her allegation: While interviewing Trump in 2005 for an article for People magazine about the first anniversary of his third marriage, Trump lured her into a room at Mar-a-Lago and abruptly kissed her, forcing his tongue down her throat. He then said they were going to have an affair.

Corroborators:

Marina Grasic, who has known Stoynoff for more than 25 years. She said she got a call from her friend the day after the attack, detailing exactly how Trump pushed Stoynoff against a wall.


Liz McNeil, at the time a reporter for People (she is now an editor). She said that she heard about the incident the day after Stoynoff returned from her assignment. “She was very upset and told me how he shoved her against a wall,” she said.

Mary Green, another People reporter (now editor) who had just returned to New York. “In an early conversation we had in her office, she told me about what happened with Donald Trump,” Green said. “She was shaky, sitting at her desk, relaying that, ‘He took me to this other room, and when we stepped inside, he pushed me against a wall and stuck his tongue down my throat. Melania was upstairs and could have walked in at any time.’ ”

Liza Hamm, part of a “tightknit’ group of friends. “Natasha has always been a vivacious person who wants to believe in the best of people, and this experience definitely messed with that outlook,” she said.

Paul McLaughlin, Stoynoff’s former journalism professor. He said Stoynoff called him at the time of the alleged incident seeking advice on how to handle it: “She didn’t know what to do, she was very conflicted, she was angry, she was really confused about how to deal with this.” After a discussion, he said, Stoynoff decided it would be best if she kept the incident to herself.



Rachel Crooks
Her allegation: Trump in 2005 kissed her directly on the lips after she introduced herself and said she was a receptionist who worked for a company that did business with Trump.

Corroborators:

Brianne Webb, her sister. She said Crooks called her immediately about the incident as soon as she returned to her desk. “Being from a town of 1,600 people, being naive, I was like, ‘Are you sure he didn’t just miss trying to kiss you on the cheek?’ She said, ‘No, he kissed me on the mouth.’ I was like, ‘That is not normal.’ ”

Clint Hackenburg, her boyfriend at the time. After he asked her that evening how her day had gone, “she paused for a second, and then started hysterically crying.”


As we all know President Trump has the utmost respect for women bleeders tidy bints. And if he offended thewomen bleeders tidy bints then I am sure he in no way embarked on a massive public smear campaign against them ,and in no way reduced his daughter to tears, nor did he parade out “Randy Bill’s alleged victims on national TV, or his women to tell the baying mob he (trump) is an utter gentlemen with the women bints.

Trump defends crude language from 2005 as "locker room" talk

Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows

Trump is very strange with his daughter










DaddySatyr -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 1:18:31 PM)



I have a "prescription" for you:


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Item | Type | Qty.
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Help | Mental | 1 ea.
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Look into it.




bounty44 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 1:25:56 PM)

"1 ea." times the ~20 fake profiles he's had/has.




DaddySatyr -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 1:36:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"1 ea." times the ~20 fake profiles he's had/has.


You know, the multiple profiles thing ... I can't help thinking back to the ARPIG fiasco.



Peace,


Michael




ServiceSubinCali -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 1:42:13 PM)

Look at those trumphowlers go.
I believe the term is arse spraying festering mayhem

Shy away from a vote did you?
Oh 5 doctors notes is it?




bounty44 -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 1:58:18 PM)

ive heard reference to him a handful of times but the occurrence seems to have happened before I arrived.




ServiceSubinCali -> RE: HW Bush also sexually assault someone while in a wheel chair? (11/4/2017 2:21:54 PM)

so none of you rapist enablers care to comment on events whilst – you are an acessory




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